Blackhawks 5 Canucks 2 - Game 3 Scoring Chances
Just as in Game Two, the Vancouver Canucks were the much better team through the first period, but unlike Game Two, Antti Niemi was able to stop absolutely everything thrown his way and it was the Blackhawks who headed to the intermission with the lead despite being soundly outplayed. By the end of the second period, the Blackhawks held a one-goal lead, just as Vancouver did at the end of the second period of Game Two. And in that game Vancouver was out-chanced in the third as they tried to nurse the lead home, eventually losing the game in regulation, a result reminiscent of Game Six between the Canucks and Kings in the first round. The Blackhawks had no such trouble. The third period was by far their best and they ran away to hide, at least in terms of the score. When it came to the rough stuff the Hawks were more than happy to stay up close and personal. Scoring chances and more after the jump.
Scoring Chances
For those who'd like a definition: a scoring chance is defined as a clear play directed toward the opposing net from a dangerous scoring area - loosely defined as the top of the circle in and inside the faceoff dots, though sometimes slightly more generous than that depending on the amount of immediately-preceding puck movement or screens in front of the net. Blocked shots are generally not included but missed shots are. A player is awarded a scoring chance anytime he is on the ice and someone from either team has a chance to score. He is awarded a "chance for" if someone on his team has a chance to score and a "chance against" if the opposing team has a chance to score. And, of course, a big thanks to Vic Ferrari for making the whole damn thing possible with his awesome script.
Vancouver was dominant at even strength through two periods, though I did notice that CBC had the chances at 14-10 in favour of Vancouver to start the third which looks a lot closer than my 17-10. Anyroad, they played about as well as they can play in the first period except for a couple - literally - of key breakdowns around their net and the second was more of the same, except with a few dumb penalties mixed in. I was quite surprised when Alain Vigneault decided to break up his two best lines, flipping Samuelsson and Burrows for the third period (I'm generally of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school when it comes to line combinations). His team was playing well and getting plenty of chances and had in fact narrowed the gap to one at the start of the third. I don't think the turn-around for Chicago in the third should be laid at the feet of that change - it's probably more coincidence than anything - but it certainly didn't help the Canucks generate any more offence and just struck me as odd.
Well, Dave Bolland's line - along with Keith and Seabrook - got trashed by the Sedins, but there will be more on that below. One guy I won't talk too much about is Ryan Johnson. I thought it was pretty funny that after making such a big deal about Johnson's PK ability the Hawks scored about six seconds into his first shift on the PK. Thanks for the help Ryan! After watching this game, I definitely stand by my statement that the guy they really miss on that PK is Willie Mitchell in front of the net.
And just because I can't help myself, that "Ref, you suck" chant after Alex Burrows did something stupid pretty much sums up why this group of fans likes Alex Burrows so much. You'll be happy to note that despite the penalty, I didn't even make Burrows a goat. It was tempting. But I let it go. Kind of.
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3. Daniel Sedin - Daniel was on the ice for Jannik Hansen's goal (I liked Hansen last night as well) and seemed to be the most physically involved of the Sedins so I gave him the nod as a star. It must have been particularly encouraging for Canuck fans to see the Sedins own the puck at even strength against the very same line that contained them in Game Two (Dave Bolland, KrisVersteeg and Andrew Ladd) because that bodes well for the future. The results themselves - including the +5 SC's and +15 Corsi (Henrik was +18) - shouldn't be discouraging even though they didn't score. The Sedins have been shooting the lights out all playoffs so you kind of knew that a dominant game would go unrewarded eventually. They were fantastic offensively but couldn't get anything to go into the net. Ask Alexander Semin about nights like that, he had about seven of them in a row.
2. Dustin Byfuglien - He's at the top of everyone's list. The Canucks couldn't handle him well once the puck got to the net, evidenced by three goals from the top of the crease. He was also one of the few Blackhawks to finish even or better in all of Scoring Chances, Corsi and Fenwick so it wasn't like he was only effective on the goals. There were also a couple of non-scoring plays that really stood out. At the end of the first period, Byfuglien was chasing down a puck in the Canucks' zone. He managed to beat Alexander Edler, despite Edler having a huge head-start (hmmm, I wonder why) and then proceeded to shield the puck as he went by two Canuck defenders to the net to get a scoring chance - very impressive.
1. Antti Niemi - He had a really rough game to open the series but he's been mighty fine since then. Without Niemi making a number of really good saves through the first period this game could have been very different. His team was out-chanced 11-4 through one and 17-10 through two and yet still had the lead which is a fine accomplishment. Aside from those chances, Niemi was also very good at making sure he wasn't screened. The chance totals could have been much higher if I had counted all of the "near" screens when Vancouver took shots from the point. One of the big reasons I didn't was Niemi himself making sure that he had good sight of the puck.
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3. Jordan Hendry/Brent Sopel - I didn't like this pairing but picking just one of them proved difficult because so many of the mistakes seemed like they were made as a pairing. The chance at 12:47 of the first is a break-away for Jannik Hansen where Hendry and Brent Sopel just let Hansen sneak behind them for a pass. That pairing was out again on the Canucks' first goal where they were unable to get control of the puck or clear the front of the net. In some ways, it was a lucky goal (it bounced in off of Hansen's arm) but the Canucks' were also able to create that situation pretty consistently against these two (possession, followed by a shot from the point with some Canucks looking for rebounds).
2. Roberto Luongo - I don't know if you heard much of Jim Robson on Hockey Night in Canada but I thought pretty much everything that guy said was on the money (with the possible exception of his adoration of the 1994 Canucks, though bringing all of those names to mind showed an impressive memory). His style was blunt without being bombastic, which was also a big help in terms of likability. Basically, they should get rid or Milbury and bring in this guy. Anyway, one of the things he said in the second intermission was that Luongo didn't look so good giving up those rebounds. For whatever reason, he just wasn't able to squeeze the puck often enough in this one and it really cost his team because...
1. Alexander Edler - ...the defenders couldn't get control of the front of the net! I promised Bruce a make-up call on Edler so here it is even if it might be hard to justify. He did after all go +7 in scoring chances and +14 in Corsi. But a lot of those pluses came in his time with the Sedins and the few minuses he did achieve were emblematic of what went wrong for the Canucks. I already described the play where he looked scared to go into the corner first with an on-coming Dustin Byfuglien. On the one hand, understandable, on the other, kind of unacceptable, especially if you lose the battle and the puck ends up on goal from a dangerous spot. And then there were the goals. He wasn't the only one who lost position or got out-muscled for rebounds, but it happened to him on three of them. On the second Hawks goal he let Byfuglien take position in front for the rebound as he skated by. On the third goal he tried to get back to the front of the net after the original shot but couldn't get control of either Jonathan Toews or Byfuglien. On the fifth goal, he let Byfuglien get inside position and basically pushed him right into the goalie and the puck into the net. Byfuglien, Byfuglien, Byfuglien. The Canucks really miss Willie Mitchell.
Programming Note: I'm gone far away this weekend so the scoring chances for Games 4 and 5 both won't be up until Monday.
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Caveat: I managed to only catch the third this game, so I’m talking out of my behind a bit.
To be fair to Edler, I dunno how many dmen there are in this league who can handle Buffalo. With another caveat about the fallibility of memory, I recall his being in Lu’s kitchen constantly last year too, and that was with Willie in the lineup. Something about being 260 pounds tends to open doors for you. It’s too bad Buff’s already got a $3M Cap Hit (how the hell did that happen, by the way? Was Chicago unaware that there’s a cap?), or he’d be a heck of a developmental value.
It’s true that the Canucks (and maybe Mitchell, I don’t remember who he was matched against) also had trouble with Byfuglien last year. The problem is, they need to find a way to handle it. Some of the answer needs to be Luongo squeezing more pucks, some of it needs to be the defenders staying between the player and the net. I think you’re right that they aren’t going to overpower Byfuglien (and others) so it sure isn’t going to be easy.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
absolutely. this is presumably where Andrew Alberts could make himself useful, but then that would mean having Andrew fucking Alberts out against Toews and Kane. I wonder if Boston would lend us Chara…
by Passive Voice on May 6, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
hmmm….so, having just checked on NHL.com, it appears that the Canucks are doing pretty well in terms of defenceman size. Maybe the problem does have more to do with technique…
by Passive Voice on May 6, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions
The problem there is that the three biggest guys on the roster also happen to be the 5th, 6th and 7th defenders in the rotation. You might be able to handle yourself in front of the net in terms of strength if you run Alberts and O’Brien out there, but that pairing somehow doesn’t seem like it would do all that well overall in a shut-down role.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
So we’re in agreement then: have Boston lend Vancouver Chara and the problem is solved!
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Caveat: I managed to only catch the third this game, so I’m talking out of my behind a bit more than usual. :)
Dustin B. has more than a little in common with our own Dustin P. The Hawks’ version obviously has the meaner streak and I think it helps him for the most part, but when you let a tight end loose in the defensive backfield he can prove damn tough to bring down.
Canucks sorely miss Mitchell cuz he would do a way better job of it than anybody they got now. It’s an absolutely terrific point that because Btfsplk is able to line up with Toews and Kane that that severely limits Vigneault’s options, cuz those guys will just eat up the O’Briens and the Albertses of the world. But the other way you’ve got Buffalo horning into sheep’s territory. I note Edler was the LD on all three goals.
Helluva move by Quenneville to move Btfsplk up from the blueline in the Nashville series, right on to the first line in the Vancouver series. That is an extremely rare player than you can do that with, especially in this day and age.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Welcome, ChicoMaki. I remember you! You got the sweet gig as Bobby Hull’s right winger for years. (Or at least, your namesake did.)
I agree, Scott and Derek are doing a terrific job with these game reviews.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
Yep, I’ll be visiting more often for the good reads. Once I get a bead on how much swearing goes on, I might even throw in a few comments.
Hull’s right winger … phhht … Hull was MY left winger.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I do hear that fans boo obvious right calls against the home team even outside Vancouver, but the “refs you suck” I definitely don’t recall hearing it elsewhere. Those as well as fans that threw stuff on ice (not the mention the laser pointer to Kiprusoff) really make the whole fan base look bad.
Yeah, I’d say all fans get on the refs a bit but it seems to me that Canuck fans do it in a somewhat unique way. I tend to defend the refs as people doing their best so it bothers me a bit when fans get all over them.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I tend to defend the players as people doing their best … but sometimes they fuck up, and when they do, they should be held accountable. Referees = no different.
That said, Vancouver fans have always been a little over-the-top in their public declarations of the suckitude of others, be they authority figures like zebras or honourable opponents like the Edmonton Oilers. Doesn’t matter who they are, they suck. What made Vancouver fans experts about what sucks? (Hey, wait a minute … )
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
So what if I do?
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions
This is really funny. The fact that Bruce doesn’t suck makes it so, so, so much funnier.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I still wonder why O’Brien and Bieksa don’t make the goat list. They have been terrible for two games. As for Daniel Sedin, I didn’t like the fact that he got distracted by Bolland and took the penalty when the team was on the PP after giving up the first goal. I also didn’t like the fact that he made quite a few passes that got intercepted. I know his line still generated chances, but I think the tedencies recently is that they pass too much and are getting predictable and therefore not successful.
I think by far the biggest reason they weren’t successful was that they missed their shots and that Niemi was good. That kind of thing is going to happen sometimes, but the goals will come for them. I actually thought that yesterday was their best game of the series and a huge improvement over Game Two. Roughing it up with Bolland didn’t really bother me. It seemed like Bolland was the aggressor so there wasn’t any danger of a minor and I think it’s important not to be pushed around.
O’Brien and Bieksa had the same problems as Edler in front of the net, controlling rebounds and/or the guys looking for them but it didn’t happen as often on goals so it was easier to illustrate using examples people remembered. Edler was used more or less as an example for what was most wrong with the defenders in general (coverage in front of the net).
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I still don’t like the fact that it happened during the PP as Daniel is too important in that role to be taken off. And he went just too-far; if he scaled back his retaliation a little bit, I’m sure the refs would have let him and Bolland remain on the ice. The refs didn’t call a penalty on the initial slash by Bolland. And I think while his line generated chances, last night Daniel was the one that mishandled and gave up the puck the most.
And O’Brien was quite spectacular during the Hossa. He first hit Hossa and then lost the stick in the process, and Hossa broke free and got to the front of the net with O’Brien trailing him when the goal went in.
With the penalty, I’m pretty sure it hurts the Canucks more because Chicago is pretty deep in terms of good PK forwards, but it is a two-way street. Bolland does a lot of PK work for them. There are times when taking off two top guys would work out well for the team on the PP. If it were, say Toews and Kesler going off on a Chicago PP, I think that works in Chicago’s favour despite it taking Toews off the ice. The other thing is that there’s at least some chance that the play results in a 4-on-3 which is a better scoring opportunity than a 5-on-4.
As for O’Brien, he was plenty bad on Hossa’s goal and that’s for sure.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Sedins with an unbelievably good chance differential, one would expect that was from having last change? I don’t know, I didn’t catch the game but I have them on PVR. In any case that’s how it broke down in the LA series too if I recall, they were neutralized on LA ice and dominant on VAN ice.
I think Scott already mentioned that in game 3 the twins generated chances against the same Hawk players on ice, so the theory that the last change helped shouldn’t apply to game 3. As for the LA series, the Sedin line came up big in the third period in both game 4 and game 6 in to help the Canucks come back from trailing and win those two games.
That is how it went down in LA, but in this one Vigneault didn’t run them PvP at home like he did against Kopitar. For the most part they still drew Bolland’s group last night and went +3 -0 against him and were good against everyone else too. Just a real good game territorially from them.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
This is three games in a row where the Canucks came out hard and the Blackhawks started to take over in the later stages. Check out the scoring chance distribution by period:
VAN … 28-21-13 = 62
CHI …. 20-19-28 = 67
… and compare to the score by period:
VAN …. 4-5-0 = 9
CHI ….. 3-1-6 = 10
In the first two games score effects drove the play, but last night you would have expected the reverse. Over three third periods now, the Canucks have held the lead for 26:48, the Blackhawks for 21:32, and the score was tied for 12:40 during Game 2. Whether leading, trailing, or tied, Chicago dominated down the stretch of each game. That’s gotta be mighty worrisome to the Canucks fan.
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Definitely worried, but the Canucks have a strong record in the 3rd period the whole season and also in the previous series. Game 3 was the only game where they trailed in the 3rd and didn’t outchance the opponent, and in game 2 when it was tied I believe they outchanced the Hawks. So it’s not like the team has never played well when trailing in the 3rd. But generally, the game last night was worrisome because a lot of things were off including goaltending, clearing rebounds, passing, finishing chances and even skating.
So it’s not like the team has never played well when trailing in the 3rd.
Indeed not, I was going to mention how this seemed to be almost the opposite of the Kings series. The only thing the two series seem to have in common is that the better team is imposing its will late in games.
That said, the Canucks dropped Games 2 and 3 in that series too didn’t they? So the better team imposed its will later in the series, and the Canucks still have that opportunity this time around as well. But early signs are not promising in my view.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions
The Canucks had some very good starts against the Kings at home. In Game One they outchanced 12-3 without a goal in the first period. In Game Two it was 6-1 at the time of their first goal and in Game Three it was 3-1 when they scored and 8-3 by the end of the period. They had some poor starts on the road but they’ve been solid at home all four times.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Since the Olympic break the Hawks have become a team that has often worked its way into a position where it is forced to respond. They’ve had a hard time putting together consistent starts to their games (and this year, in both series so far, this has been dishearteningly obvious, despite their having shown themselves to be one of the better home teams in the league). I fully expect them to get taught one more lesson in this respect … I get the feeling it’ll take one more loss until they realize they can’t always will themselves back into a game after digging a hole.
I don’t know why this is, maybe it’s their youth still … and the whole “lesson” thing is just my own feelings projected onto them, obviously … but ya.
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That sure wasn’t a problem when I caught the Blackhawks live just before the Olympics. They jumped all over the Oilers early and only took their foot off the gas when it was 4-0.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Ummm… they were playing the Oilers? I’m sure the opponent had nothing to do with that, or the random effects of the day, or you collapsing the Chicago uncertainty waveform. That being said, that narrative is a bit suspicious. I suspect that the corsi data won’t quite bear it out. Iirc. Chicago were very, very good with the score tied. So this sounds a lot like how Pittsburgh are so much more mentally robust than Washington… I threw up a little bit hearing that on the radio this morning.
by rsm on May 6, 2010 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Jim Robson
I think you meant Jim Hughson right? Jim Robson retired quite a while ago.
I just realized that he may have made an appearance on CBC during the game broadcast. I am stuck watching Versus, unfortunately.
Yeah, they interviewed Robson on HNIC for about two minutes in the second intermission.
by Scott Reynolds on May 6, 2010 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Jim Robson was a beauty. Only singleheaders on HNiC back in his day, so he was largely heard in the Greater Vancouver Area while the Leafs and Habs dominated the national broadcasts. We did get quite a bit of him in the playoffs, though, especially if/when the Canucks were out. I still remember his great call of Wayne Gretzky’s shortie in overtime in the Saddledome in the Sweep of Alberta in ’88 that is one of my favourite goals ever. Robson nailed it.
Was good to see him and hear that voice last night.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 7, 2010 1:06 AM MDT up reply actions

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