Sharks 4 - Wings 3: Game Three Scoring Chances
Now I know what it must have been like to see Bobby Orr in his prime completely dominating a game. Now a younger generation knows what it was like to see Wayne Gretzky shred an opponent. If you didn't watch this game - either shame on you for not tuning in, or shame on Versus and NHL Network for not figuring out a way to get this game out to the whole country. Yes, the story here should be the Sharks and their spectacular come-from-behind-overcoming-their-choker-label win, but the mainstream media has the narrative covered. The true story of this game for anyone that cares to dig deeper than the narrative was the Thunder From Njurunda, half man, half God, half possible centaur - Henrik Zetterberg. Even though it was a losing effort, what Zetterberg did last night was one of the most magnificent playoff performances that I can recall.
Zetterberg was everywhere early and on every line late. Zetterberg led all forwards with over twenty-two minutes of even strength time, two-and-half minutes more than any other forward. He was the only forward for either team to who was on the ice with and against every other player in the game. If last night's game was The Matrix, Zetterberg had the unfair advantage of seeing the code when no one else could. For the first time this series the Wings had the home change and Mike Babcock took advantage of it to match Zetterberg against Joe Thornton and his linemates. Zetterberg came out ahead. Way ahead.
Scoring Chances
For those of you who are new to the concept of tracking scoring chances, a scoring chance is defined as a clear play directed toward the opposing net from a dangerous scoring area - loosely defined as the top of the circle in and inside the faceoff dots, though sometimes slightly more generous than that depending on the amount of immediately-preceding puck movement or screens in front of the net. Blocked shots are generally not included but missed shots are. A player is awarded a scoring chance anytime he is on the ice and someone from either team has a chance to score. He is awarded a "chance for" if someone on his team has a chance to score and a "chance against" if the opposing team has a chance to score. Vic Ferrari makes this all possible with his tools to evaluate Corsi, head-to-head ice time and scoring chances.
Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 30233
| Period | Totals | EV | PP | 5v3 PP | SH | 5v3 SH | ||||||
| 1 | 3 | 10 | 3 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 3 | 9 | 8 | 7 | 8 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 4 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Totals | 22 | 21 | 17 | 20 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
The Wings really beat on the Sharks early in this game but the Sharks had a couple of power plays in the second and play balanced out after that. Wings fans are again complaining about the penalties, and it's easy to see why. The Sharks have been on the power play for 30:30 in this series, and the Wings only 15:26. At even strength, the Wings have a slight edge in scoring chances for the series at 49/43 and a total Corsi advantage of 32 (though they have trailed late and we know that the shots edge swings to the losing team in that situation). Yet on the power play, the Wings have been outchanced 24/6. The officiating hasn't been great, but the fix isn't in against the Wings this year as Red Wings' fans claim, certainly no more than the league was fixing the playoffs for the Wings in prior years as all twenty-nine other fanbases claimed.
| Team | Period | Time | Note | SJS | DET | |||||||||||
| SJS | 1 | 17:32 | 21 | 41 | 64 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 33 | 11 | 8 | 22 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 17:27 | 21 | 41 | 64 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 33 | 11 | 8 | 22 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 14:44 | 17 | 21 | 27 | 40 | 60 | 20 | 43 | 11 | 20 | 23 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 10:51 | 12 | 39 | 15 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 9:18 | 17 | 19 | 27 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 6:27 | GOAL | 12 | 15 | 29 | 22 | 40 | 20 | 93 | 40 | 96 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 |
| DET | 1 | 3:32 | 17 | 39 | 64 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 22 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 3:32 | 20 | 40 | 5v5 | |||||||||||
| DET | 1 | 1:35 | 21 | 41 | 64 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 11 | 20 | 40 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 1:26 | 21 | 41 | 64 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 11 | 20 | 40 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 1 | 1:23 | GOAL | 21 | 41 | 64 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 11 | 20 | 40 | 23 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 |
| SJS | 1 | 0:10 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 1 | 0:04 | GOAL | 8 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 |
| SJS | 2 | 19:15 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 2 | 18:18 | GOAL | 17 | 19 | 15 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 |
| SJS | 2 | 15:56 | 8 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 22 | 20 | 43 | 20 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v4 | ||
| SJS | 2 | 15:49 | 8 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 11 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v4 | ||
| SJS | 2 | 15:11 | 8 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 11 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v4 | ||
| DET | 2 | 13:31 | 12 | 17 | 15 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 93 | 40 | 96 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 2 | 5:41 | 12 | 27 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 4v5 | ||
| SJS | 2 | 3:03 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 18:37 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 11 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v4 | ||
| SJS | 3 | 18:32 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 11 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v4 | ||
| SJS | 3 | 18:25 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 43 | 93 | 40 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 17:25 | 21 | 27 | 39 | 40 | 60 | 20 | 29 | 33 | 8 | 22 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 3 | 16:59 | 21 | 39 | 29 | 40 | 60 | 20 | 29 | 33 | 8 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 16:24 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 13:18 | GOAL | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 |
| DET | 3 | 12:41 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 3 | 10:51 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 13 | 51 | 44 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 9:54 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 11 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 3 | 9:13 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 51 | 93 | 40 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 3 | 9:05 | 17 | 19 | 27 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 3 | 8:57 | 17 | 19 | 27 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 6:43 | GOAL | 17 | 27 | 39 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 28 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 |
| DET | 3 | 6:11 | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 51 | 44 | 40 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 3 | 5:39 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 3 | 22 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 96 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| DET | 3 | 4:30 | 8 | 12 | 16 | 3 | 4 | 20 | 13 | 93 | 40 | 5 | 28 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 4 | 16:07 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 40 | 20 | 43 | 11 | 20 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 4 | 15:58 | 8 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 40 | 20 | 43 | 11 | 20 | 5 | 23 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 4 | 15:43 | 21 | 27 | 29 | 4 | 40 | 20 | 13 | 43 | 20 | 52 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 4 | 13:50 | 39 | 16 | 29 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 43 | 11 | 20 | 23 | 55 | 35 | 5v5 | |
| SJS | 4 | 12:53 | GOAL | 12 | 19 | 15 | 4 | 44 | 20 | 29 | 51 | 8 | 28 | 52 | 35 | 5v5 |
The Wings owned the first period and six minutes of the third, and San Jose stayed alive by countering in short bursts. They also owned overtime - the Wings had a 20/12 even strength chances advantage through three.
| # | Player | EV | PP | SH | ||||||
| 3 | D. MURRAY | 20:11 | 5 | 8 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 1:15 | 0 | 0 |
| 4 | R. BLAKE | 21:32 | 11 | 9 | 3:30 | 2 | 1 | 0:52 | 0 | 0 |
| 8 | J. PAVELSKI | 15:31 | 8 | 3 | 6:38 | 3 | 0 | 0:27 | 0 | 0 |
| 12 | P. MARLEAU | 16:35 | 4 | 6 | 5:56 | 5 | 1 | 0:52 | 0 | 0 |
| 15 | D. HEATLEY | 18:42 | 4 | 6 | 5:18 | 5 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 16 | D. SETOGUCHI | 17:07 | 9 | 3 | 4:07 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 17 | T. MITCHELL | 13:42 | 1 | 7 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 19 | J. THORNTON | 18:58 | 4 | 6 | 6:06 | 5 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 20 | E. NABOKOV | 54:49 | 17 | 20 | 10:07 | 5 | 1 | 2:07 | 0 | 0 |
| 21 | S. NICHOL | 7:15 | 3 | 6 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 1:15 | 0 | 0 |
| 22 | D. BOYLE | 20:48 | 5 | 8 | 6:53 | 5 | 0 | 1:15 | 0 | 0 |
| 27 | M. MALHOTRA | 13:10 | 3 | 4 | 3:37 | 0 | 1 | 0:45 | 0 | 0 |
| 29 | R. CLOWE | 18:40 | 10 | 4 | 4:36 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 39 | L. COUTURE | 13:11 | 3 | 3 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 40 | K. HUSKINS | 12:13 | 4 | 3 | 0:06 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 41 | J. ORTMEYER | 4:15 | 1 | 4 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0:55 | 0 | 0 |
| 44 | M. VLASIC | 22:33 | 8 | 8 | 1:20 | 0 | 1 | 0:52 | 0 | 0 |
| 60 | J. DEMERS | 12:35 | 1 | 2 | 2:21 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 64 | J. McGINN | 5:38 | 1 | 5 | 0:07 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
Joe Pavelski, Devin Setoguchi and Ryane Clowe owned Pavel Datsyuk in this game and Zetterberg did the same to Joe Thornton and crew. Logan Couture was again quietly effective in smaller minutes.
| # | Player | EV | PP | SH | ||||||
| 5 | N. LIDSTROM | 23:44 | 11 | 8 | 1:10 | 1 | 5 | 6:47 | 0 | 0 |
| 8 | J. ABDELKADER | 6:57 | 2 | 3 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 11 | D. CLEARY | 13:24 | 5 | 5 | 0:00 | 0 | 4 | 4:35 | 0 | 0 |
| 13 | P. DATSYUK | 17:24 | 3 | 9 | 1:10 | 1 | 4 | 3:47 | 0 | 0 |
| 20 | D. MILLER | 10:39 | 4 | 4 | 0:00 | 0 | 1 | 3:58 | 0 | 0 |
| 22 | B. LEBDA | 8:53 | 2 | 2 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 23 | B. STUART | 21:44 | 10 | 8 | 0:00 | 0 | 5 | 6:40 | 0 | 0 |
| 28 | B. RAFALSKI | 23:55 | 8 | 6 | 1:10 | 1 | 0 | 1:29 | 0 | 0 |
| 29 | J. WILLIAMS | 6:15 | 1 | 2 | 0:57 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 33 | K. DRAPER | 6:55 | 2 | 2 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 35 | J. HOWARD | 54:41 | 19 | 17 | 2:07 | 1 | 5 | 10:07 | 0 | 0 |
| 40 | H. ZETTERBERG | 22:12 | 15 | 2 | 0:57 | 0 | 0 | 1:44 | 0 | 0 |
| 43 | D. HELM | 10:34 | 1 | 5 | 0:00 | 0 | 1 | 4:44 | 0 | 0 |
| 44 | T. BERTUZZI | 16:12 | 8 | 1 | 0:57 | 0 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 51 | V. FILPPULA | 19:45 | 9 | 2 | 0:57 | 0 | 0 | 1:26 | 0 | 0 |
| 52 | J. ERICSSON | 12:11 | 3 | 5 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 | 1:58 | 0 | 0 |
| 55 | N. KRONWALL | 19:19 | 4 | 5 | 0:57 | 0 | 0 | 3:20 | 0 | 0 |
| 93 | J. FRANZEN | 17:58 | 5 | 9 | 1:10 | 1 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
| 96 | T. HOLMSTROM | 14:43 | 3 | 7 | 1:10 | 1 | 0 | 0:00 | 0 | 0 |
Sweet Moses. Zetterberg was 15/2 on even strength chances (if a penalty shot is considered an ES chance, which the NHL thinks it is by the game sheet). Fifteen chances for and two against! At even strength! The Wings posted a team Corsi of 20 in this game, Zetterberg himself posted a 25. This may be the best underlying stats game I've ever seen from a single player.
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Jesus. Zetterberg was on for more than 75% of the Wings’ chances. Of course he played like 40% of the game but damn, where the hell was everyone else?
Watching Zetterberg, jaws agape.
Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.
15/2 ev
that’s just hard to fathom.
Many times i watch a game, see one line or player seemingly dominate, and come to this (or other scoring chance tracking sites) to check the scoring chances thinking, “damn, I bet blank had a HUGE game”… only to see it was “only” something like 9/4.
This is the one time I got what I expected: Zberg looked amazing = 15/2 and a 25 corsi.
only to see it was "only" something like 9/4.
Man, 9/4 IS a dominant game! Over the course of a season that would be at least a 50 goal differential for a single player!
Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.
I know, I know...
I hope this scoring chances project that is taking shape keep growing and evolving. It will be very interesting to see things like: year over year comparisons, player vs team X, regular season vs playoff trends, most games in the black, most games in the red, season and career scoring chances/60, etc.
Also interested in seeing single game highs (Zberg’s 15/2) and lows (Strudwick).
Couldn’t catch the game but I assume Datsyuk faced Pavelski?
It’s just mind-boggling though how bad the other Wings were in context. I mean it’s entirely possible that Zetterberg was being deployed in the offensive zone (without watching I wouldn’t know) but that’s not his usual gig, and besides his 15/2 chance and +25 corsi imply he was ending a ton of shifts in the offensive zone.
Which makes the other Wings performance just unacceptable, because they would have been gifted with the shift-starts that Zetterberg was providing with his domination, they should have done something with it.
In between the two team breakdowns:
Joe Pavelski, Devin Setoguchi and Ryane Clowe owned Pavel Datsyuk in this game and Zetterberg did the same to Joe Thornton and crew.
Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.
The more I stare at these score chance sheets here and at Behind the Net, the more sense they are making. They no longer are just jibberish with numbers.
Interesting.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
it’s pretty cool eh? shit sorta just starts making sense.
Anyway, Zetterberg’s a machine. He was, like, 4th in the near-end-of-season “Corsi overachiever” article at BtN. It’s sorta too bad (well, not at all, really, but you know) that the dwings don’t have more competent wingers, because Zett’s lowish point totals really prevent him from getting the credit he deserves.
by Passive Voice on May 5, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
For all the talk about “just watch the game”, there sure are a lot of people who miss out on stuff.
I’ve read a lot about Zetterberg having a bad season and it just didn’t make a lot of sense to me. He’s carrying dead wood and kicking ass at it.
Isn’t Bertuzzi on his line?
Case closed.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions
it’s pretty cool eh? shit sorta just starts making sense.
Yeah it does. Now I need to see if I can spot out those scoring chances when watching games. I figure if I keep reading about it all, it will sink in how to do so and I can understand my own team better (as well as those they play against).
Just interesting.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
Joe Pavelski, Devin Setoguchi and Ryane Clowe owned Pavel Datsyuk in this game and Zetterberg did the same to Joe Thornton and crew
Not quite sure I buy +4/-6 – as all three of Marleau-Thornton-Heatley were at evens – as being “owned”. Obviously much of the Zetterberg ownage occurred against others.
All that Marleau, Thornton and company did was win the darn game.
I only saw the first period of this one but recall a play where Jonathan Ericsson pinched on the powerplay, the Sharks got an odd man rush, and Ray Ferraro said “The coaches will be talking to Ericsson about that” about two seconds after I said it myself. Obviously he wasn’t listening, cuz it was his egregiously bad pinch on the missed Justin Williams shot that led to the aforementioned Messrs. Thornton and Marleau getting the two-on-one that put an end to things. Oops.
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"Never be ashamed of who you are" -- Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Not quite sure I buy +4/-6 – as all three of Marleau-Thornton-Heatley were at evens – as being "owned". Obviously much of the Zetterberg ownage occurred against others.
Against Thornton alone, Zetterberg was 6/1 with a goal.
Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.
+6/-1 against Thornton, +9/-1 against others … I guess Z just owned everybody.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 6, 2010 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I really don’t see what Ericsson did wrong on the last one; the late Wings forward had plenty of time to replace his position, and failed to do so. Detroit gives their D a good deal of freedom to join the rush, leaving it to forwards to recognize the situation and cover for them. Honestly, I think Ericsson was doing exactly what his coach wanted.

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