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Oilers' hitting game 2008-10 - Part Two: on the front line

"Take the hit to make the play," goes the old saying, words that are invariably spoken in approving tones. It's central to the game of hockey that players - the admirable ones at least - are willing to pay a price on the receiving end of things, every bit as much as on the giving.

I have an old saying myself, that "the first 50% of toughness is being able to take it", words that I repeated on occasion to my longtime seatmates during the years we admired hardrocks like Lee Fogolin and Jaroslav Pouzar, Kevin Lowe and Craig Muni. Man, those guys took a beating, and none of them ever backed down an inch.

Somewhat ironically we were equally extolling the virtues of Wayne Gretzky, who exhibited a truly extraordinary ability to avoid the hit but still make the play, the best of all possible worlds. It wasn't that he wouldn't go where angels feared to tread, he'd dart in and out of there and emerge unscathed, time and again. The needle and the damage done.

The current Oilers don't have a Gretzky of course, who does? Worse, they have a serious scarcity of the hardrock types. Smyth and Smith are gone, Steady Steve too, and in their places are an assortment of smurfs, wannabes, and wannabe smurfs. The team has been bashed by (some of) its fans for "lack of compete" even as it has been battered by injury the last four years.

Nobody will accuse the team's offensive leader of a lack of compete. Ales Hemsky is more than willing to take a hit to make a play; some might say, too willing. Whatever, his style of play and his talent make him an obvious target for opposing defenders like Robyn Regehr and Andy Sutton, or bangers like Derek Boogaard and Jordin Tootoo. Or checkers like Michal Handzus, whose vicious hit ended Hemsky's promising 2009-10 season in mid-November. Ales took the hit to make the play, but it wasn't worth that price.

How big a target is Hemsky? A breakdown of hits both given and taken by Oilers forwards over the past two seasons follows the jump.

Star-divide

Player GP TOI HF HA Total
Zachery Stortini 129 1094 237 113 350
Ethan Moreau 153 2278 223 97 320
Andrew Cogliano 164 2343 137 130 267
Dustin Penner 160 2707 132 103 235
Gilbert Brule 76 1034 129 105 234
Sam Gagner 144 2382 57 161 218
J-F Jacques 56 601 171 43 214
Fernando Pisani 78 1165 106 91 197
Ales Hemsky 94 1738 21 166 187
Robert Nilsson 124 1857 67 119 186
Marc Pouliot 98 1173 76 96 172
Shawn Horcoff 157 3205 65 96 161
Patrick O'Sullivan 92 1625 38 78 116
Ryan Potulny 72 1126 46 70 116
Ryan Stone 27 293 54 25 79
Mike Comrie 43 612 20 20 40

 

As was the case in Part One: the blue, all raw stats are courtesy of Gabriel Desjardins; thanks again, Gabe. As before I have only listed players who ended the 2009-10 season on the Oilers and who remain part of the equation looking forward. The group is sorted by the rightmost column, total collisions, and the leader of each category is highlighted in red.

Lo and behold, despite playing just 94 games over the past two seasons, Ales Hemsky has absorbed the most hits of any Oiler forward. Only Sam Gagner, who himself ended the recent season on IR, comes close. Two more diminutive puckhandlers, Andrew Cogliano and Robert Nilsson, are next. I guess if I was playing the Oilers my strategy would be to take the body on those guys too. Or on Patrick O'Sullivan, if I could find him.

No surprise to see Zack Stortini leading the team both in hits given and in total collisions. Zack has been the healthiest of those players known for their physical game; even at fourth-line minutes for 80% of the team's games over those two years and pressboxed for the other 20%, he has done a pretty consistent job of sticking to his job description.

What is clearly lacking is a top 6 type at or near the top of that list. I look longingly at Erik Cole's 134 HF + 90 HA = 224 collisions in just 63 GP and there's just nothing even resembling a replacement. When Cole left Oilers were in strong playoff contention, since that day they have had a disastrous stretch drive followed by a disastrous season. I'm not going to hang all that on O'Sullivan - we trade an apple for an orange (or was it a pumpkin?) - but I think Steve Tambellini has something to answer for in terms of unbalancing his team, an all-too-common plaint in these parts in recent years.

Let's look at the above information expressed as rates and ratios:

Player HF/60 HA/60 Total/60 HF/GP HA/GP Total/GP HF:HA
J-F Jacques 17.07 4.29 21.36 3.05 0.77 3.82 3.98
Ethan Moreau 5.87 2.55 8.43 1.46 0.63 2.09 2.30
Ryan Stone 11.06 5.12 16.18 2.00 0.93 2.93 2.16
Zachery Stortini 13.00 6.20 19.20 1.84 0.88 2.71 2.10
Dustin Penner 2.93 2.28 5.21 0.83 0.64 1.47 1.28
Gilbert Brule 7.49 6.09 13.58 1.70 1.38 3.08 1.23
Fernando Pisani 5.46 4.69 10.15 1.36 1.17 2.53 1.16
Andrew Cogliano 3.51 3.33 6.84 0.84 0.79 1.63 1.05
Mike Comrie 1.96 1.96 3.92 0.47 0.47 0.93 1.00
Marc Pouliot 3.89 4.91 8.80 0.78 0.98 1.76 0.79
Shawn Horcoff 1.22 1.80 3.01 0.41 0.61 1.03 0.68
Ryan Potulny 2.45 3.73 6.18 0.64 0.97 1.61 0.66
Robert Nilsson 2.16 3.84 6.01 0.54 0.96 1.50 0.56
Patrick O'Sullivan 1.40 2.88 4.28 0.41 0.85 1.26 0.49
Sam Gagner 1.44 4.06 5.49 0.40 1.12 1.51 0.35
Ales Hemsky 0.72 5.73 6.46 0.22 1.77 1.99 0.13

J-F Jacques surges to the top of the charts in no fewer than 5 of the 7 categories listed, arguably the 5 most positive ones. I have zero doubt that JFJ's aggressiveness coupled with his size is why Quinn kept going to the well with him and why the organization continues to sing his praises. JFJ has tonnes of shortcomings in his game, well-documented in other places and by other metrics, but there's no denying his physical element even as one questions how effectively he uses it. I'm old-timey enough to agree with Quinn that it is an element the team absolutely needs, albeit I would much rather see it in an Erik Cole-type who can actually play the damn game.

Some may be surprised to see Stortini leading the charts on the receiving end, of hits taken per 60. Not me; Zorg is out there to engage in the physical battle, and is always busting his hump to win races to shoot-ins, quite willing to take a knock to move the puck along the end wall and initiate the cycle. To say he stands out on this team for this willingness is an understatement.

Of course that is the lot of the fourth-liner. I have chosen to show hit rates on both a per-60 and per-GP basis because I think the nature of the act favours those guys who play relatively few minutes. It's easier for a Stortini, a Jacques or a Stone to go out there and bust ass for 10 minutes when that's likely all there is to their night's work. Moreover, said stats are likely skewed in favour of players who get most of their ice time at evens; don't have numbers to back me up but it's my observation that there is far less hitting on special teams. Surely getting hit three times in 20 minutes takes more of a nightly toll on a body than getting hit twice in 10.

Looked at this way, we see the familiar name of Ales Hemsky leading the team in hits taken per GP, even as he is dead last on the squad by the opposite side of the same coin (HF/GP). That 1:8 ratio is unhealthy. I'm not sure I want to see Hemsky initiating more contact necessarily, but it might be in his best interest to practice discretion instead of valour on occasion. In his case by far the most important number in "hits/GP" is the one under GP. Of all the things that have derailed Oilers playoff hopes these past four years, top of the pops has to be Hemsky's variety of ailments - head, wrist, shoulder - that have sidelined him and/or limited his effectiveness down the stretch of every one of those seasons.

Ales is a rare enough talent that this fan is prepared to make that exception for him, as I once did for Wayne Gretzky. Self-preservation comes first. But I'm convinced we have to change the mix of players around him, bring in some more robust types who can look after the physical element. If we could find one who could ride shotgun in the process and keep up with Hemsky on the hockey side of things, that would solve a few problems. All of which might explain Craig MacTavish's experiment with Cole on Hemmer's left side (fail) and Quinn's with JFJ (epic fail). Both were looking for a player the Oilers don't actually have.

Which puts the ball squarely in Steve Tambellini's court. Wanted: a top-6 LW with an aggressive streak.

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This is why I hate it when people call Hemsky “soft”. Why do they think he’s soft? Because he’s a skill player and he’s from the Czech Republic, so as a matter of cosmic certainty he must be an overheated marshmallow.

No. Unlike half this club, Ales is tough as balls.

The poor son-of-a-bitch.

It’s invigorating and, frankly, delightful to see a guy like Hemsky who genuinely doesn’t seem to give a fuck if he’s going around in one of those electric scooters eating through a straw when he’s forty-five, who’ll take an elbow to the chops from Robyn Regehr if that’s what it takes to make the play. It’s delightful aside from the fact that, ultimately, he is flesh and blood and sinew and, like all mortals, an indominable will cannot carry him alone when his body fails. Getting a tough guy to play with him is only so much of it – Dustin Penner has enough skill to keep up with Ales and can shove guys around like he’s Frankenstein’s monster, but Hemsky will still thunder into the corner at nine hundred miles an hour even as Dion Phaneuf is leaping six feet into the air with his elbow extended like he’s in a bad UFC video.

That toughness is good. But what we really need is a coach who can convince Hemsky to maybe not commit suicide on the ice.

by Benjamin Massey on May 4, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Ben: I agree entirely, and your last sentence sums it up perfectly. I admire that aspect of Hemsky’s game even as I advocate him cutting down on it. Like Ladi Smid, Sam Gagner and others, Ales has to make the experience unpleasant for the hitter, up to and including nailing the guy in the teeth if he’s coming too hard. Can’t have him invading your space, which is anywhere in the head area for starters. You wanna try hitting me in the head, you pay the price. Pictures at eleven.

That said, your comment about marshmallow-soft Czechs made me laugh out loud. The Scandinavians esp. the Swedes had such a reputation for quite a while, but I don’t ever remember anyone ever once using the term “Chicken Czech”. Maybe there’s been a few in recent years, but the Czechs and Slovaks I watched battle the Soviets in on-ice wars of the 1960s and 1970s had been tried by fire, and the ones who came over at first – guys like Jaroslav Pouzar, Miroslav Dvorak, Jiri Bubla, the ones who established the stereotype – were tough as nails. I’ve been following international hockey since the early ‘60s, and I don’t think I’ve yet seen a Czech (senior) team that I thought could be physically intimidated … they’ve always seemed to be more than willing to both give and take their share of punishment. You want marshmallows, look somewhere else.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

"Never be ashamed of who you are" -- Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg

by Bruce McCurdy on May 4, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That HAG (new acronym) HFHA does not bode well for Brule. He’s going to be “questionable” to “probably” for the rest of his career if he keeps that up.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on May 4, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, thanks Bruce! A new way to show that Brule is going to fail! Just what you wanted I’m sure! (I do actually agree with Derek here, especially considering Brule’s size and history of injuries).

by Scott Reynolds on May 4, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’d rather one or two of our smurfs died trying, metaphorically speaking. He’s a small guy for 3 collisions/GP, but give him a little credit, I say. He was one of the few Oilers who played with an edge.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

"Never be ashamed of who you are" -- Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg

by Bruce McCurdy on May 4, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You sound so bitter.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on May 4, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That O’Sullivan sure is a shifty guy!

by DarrenV on May 4, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for doing this up Bruce. I find Penner’s numbers really interesting. He both hits and gets hit a lot less than most other players and yet he spends a fair amount of time around the puck. It’s strange.

by Scott Reynolds on May 4, 2010 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

He uses his size and strength lots, but more to shrug guys off than to hammer them. Lots of board and slot battles. Wish he’d hit a little more truth be told. Given the load that he carries and the reputation of “don’t wake him up” (just like F.Mahovlich), guys tend to leave him be.

One thing he’s really good at is making room for Hemsky, like a good pulling guard, so he does provide protection in a sense.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

"Never be ashamed of who you are" -- Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg

by Bruce McCurdy on May 4, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jamie Benn

Souray for Jamie Benn straight up.

by Oi on May 5, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Actually Dallas must have a trigger happy hit counter with 3 of the top 6 hitting LW in the league. and the 4th one at #11.

by Oi on May 5, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

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TOI/G:

Horcoff (19:23)

Gilbert (22:24)

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Penner (.152)

Smid (.090)

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Penner (203)

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Penner(.405)

Visnovsky (.460)

SCF/15:

Penner (5.241)

Visnovsky (4.517)

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Stortini (3.850)

Gilbert (4.360)

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Penner (.448)

Visnovsky (.122)

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