Trade Idea Du Jour: Khabibulin, Hall for Thomas, Wheeler, and Seguin?
Some idiot at OilersNation quotes a Boston Herald article indicating the Bruins' willingness to deal and affection for Taylor Hall, and draws on his own analysis to come up with Nik Khabibulin and the Taylor Hall pick for Tim Thomas, Blake Wheeler, and the Tyler Seguin pick.
My opinion? I think more and more I'd rather have Seguin than Hall anyway. But Thomas's morbid contract makes Khabibulin's look pleasant, and as much as I like Wheeler I have a hard time selling myself on that contract.
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Benjamin Massey
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re: Wheeler contract...
what do you mean “selling yourself on that contract”…according to both capgeek and NHL numbers, Wheeler is an RFA?
As far as Khabi and Thomas go, I’d say they’re pretty much a wash, and so if the Oil are going to draft Seguin anyways, why not get Wheeler out of the deal?
that contract = Thomas’s.
Thomas is a better goaltender than Khabibulin but he’s worse value (and that’s seriously saying something).
by Benjamin Massey on May 29, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed. There are two advantages to having Thomas around. First, he’s better than Khabibulin. Second, he’s better than Khabibulin.
Thinking about this though – the Bruins would have to take Nilsson or O’Sullivan back to make this work. That, or Tambellini has to be willing to stuff a bunch of people in Oklahoma City.
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by Bruce McCurdy on May 29, 2010 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions
But oh my god that contract is so unbelievably terrible. Khabibulin isn’t good, but Thomas isn’t that damned good either! At least, not good enough to give us a prayer of making the playoffs no matter what we do this offseason. I’d prefer to run Deslauriers-Dubnyk over either one of them if we could lose the Khabibulin contract somehow.
I’d rather forget the goaltenders entirely. I’m all for the idea of trading down, one hundred percent and entirely, and I’d take Wheeler as a return. But if we want to ditch bad contracts too let’s not take an even worse one back. I’d rather try to turn the trade up-hill and sell high on some other assets: does Boston still like Cogliano? I know they used to have a mile-long boner for the kid.
by Benjamin Massey on May 29, 2010 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh, I have no issues just taking Wheeler back. But it sounds like there is more to this unless this is strictly Harris spitballing. But considering the conversation he just had it seems like there’s more to it.
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Ahh, ok…
and yes, I agree with you that Thomas is a better goalie but worse value, however, for the duration of the contract we’re unlikely going to be spending to the cap since we’ll be in rebuild mode and likely(hopefully) just rounding in to form right about when the contract is expiring, so as long as it’s ok with Katz, it’s ok with me. Heh, wonder if there’s a way we could finagle Lucic out of Boston instead…
I think the optics would make it unlikely Tambellini trades the first pick, even if he gets the same player. But I really like the idea of giving Boston Hall in exchange for swapping the #31 and Boston’s pick, then maybe adding a mid-rounder and/or prospect and trying to move up even more. Top ten might be a little much to ask but a second good young player would be nice either way.
Where is Boston’s own pick, anyways? The sites I’ve found all say it’s #15 but that makes no sense to me since they won their first round series so shouldn’t they have moved down to #23? Or is it just the conference finalists who get shifted?
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