Boys in the AHL
When people complain about the Edmonton Oilers, they often say that the team just doesn't have enough NHL players. Well, the Springfield Falcons didn't have enough AHL players. It seemed like they were signing some schmuck to a PTO every week just to have enough players to strap on the pads and keep Cody Wild in the press-box. But as the season drew to a close many of the Oilers' best prospects had their first (or second) taste of pro hockey. After the jump, we'll take a look at how each of them performed in this small sample of games to end the season.
Jordan Eberle - (#3 on the Top 25 Under 25)Games played - Eleven
Falcons' record and GD - 2-5-4 and -13 (+32 -45)
The boxcars - 6G 8A 14P
Those are some fantastic numbers! When we look a little bit deeper there's some good news... and some bad news. The good news is that the majority of his offence came at even strength to the tune of 5 goals and 5 assists in only 11 games. His "traditional" +/- was listed at -2, but that improves to "even" (+10 -10) when we remove SH and EN situations, which is pretty darn good when you see that team number sitting at -13. The bad news is that Eberle was playing in some pretty tremendous luck. Eberle got a point on every single one of the Falcons' goals at EV when he was on the ice (he actually missed one and then got an assist on a goal where he wasn't on the ice). It's great to see that Eberle is driving the offence but that number is going to come down. The other thing that's mildly concerning is Eberle's shot count and shooting percentage. He shot 25% on 24 shots and that's bound to come down but the big concern for me is the shot rate of 2.18 shots per game. If Eberle is able to duplicate that shot rate in the NHL and stay healthy for 82 games, that translates to about 180 shots. Since the lock-out a player has scored 30 goals in a season 180 times (nice symmetry, I know); only 17 of those seasons had the shooter taking 180 shots or less. If Eberle's one really good talent is scoring goals (a nice talent to have), he's going to need to find a way to take more shots than he did in his little AHL audition.
Jeff Petry - (#7 on the Top 25 Under 25)
Games played - Eight
Falcons' record and GD - 1-5-2 and -12 (+23 -35)
The boxcars - 0G 3A 3P
His AHL debut was a struggle. He did get some PP time and managed two assists. That part isn't so bad. It's at EV where the real worries begin. His EV +/- (no EN goals or SH goals included) of -8 in eight games is pretty epic. When you consider the Falcons only scored once at EV with Petry on the ice (+1 -9), well, that probably tells us something about where the puck was most of the time. Even if he was taking on the vaunt in the AHL this little run of games (along with a sub-par junior season at MSU in 2008-09) is enough to have me keeping my expectations low. I hope that he becomes a good player in the NHL but I'm not convinced that he absolutely will. At this point, I'm not convinced that he's clearly a better prospect than Alex Plante.
Olivier Roy - (#25 on the Top 25 Under 25)
Games played - Three (Two Starts)
Falcons' record and GD - 1-1-1 and +1 (+14 -13)
The boxcars - 63 saves on 69 shots for a .913 save percentage
The Falcons only used two goalies during the month of April, Bryan Pitton and Olivier Roy. Each goalie played in three of the five games with Pitton getting pulled toward the end of one of them. You can see Roy's save percentage above. With the same team in front of him Pitton's save percentage was .760. Now, this is an extremely small sample and certainly doesn't tell us anything conclusive but it sure does confirm what we suspected before! Roy is a legitimate goaltending prospect and Pitton... well, he isn't.
Chris VandeVelde - (#19 on the Top 25 Under 25)
Games played - Two
Falcons' record and GD - 0-1-1 and -3 (+7 -10)
The boxcars - 0G 1A 1P
VandeVelde played in two of the Falcons' last three games before the end of the season (he was scratched from the lineup in the last game which was their third game in three nights). He was +1 in the two games (+2 -1) at EV and also had some time on the PK. There really isn't much to be gleaned from a two-game sample which is probably good because it means he got a nice taste of the pros without any red flags on his performance.
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Good work
Good post, interesting data. Let’s hope Petry doesn’t get “Chorneyed” up to the big team next season. I’ve saw that movie, didn’t like it.
As for Eberle and luck, it’s not so uncommon for forwards to be positively involved in some way in a high percentage of goals they’re on the ice for, either through a screen, a hit, a pass or a shot. Eberle is a leading edge kind of guy, so that means he’s going to get an official point for his work, but even a guy like Stortini, who gets fewer official points, usually finds some way to help out on the goals scored when he’s on the ice.
It’s the goals against that wingers like Eberle are very often not involved in.
I’d suggest his plus/minus isn’t very relevant, as it includes all kinds of false negatives on the goal scored against the Falcons when Eberle was on the ice (of course, I’d always suggest that plus/minus isn’t very relevant).
by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Apr 24, 2010 1:24 PM MDT reply actions
You’re right that it’s not at all uncommon to be involved in a high percentage of goals. The average forward gets a point on about 70% of the goals scored while he’s on the ice. But – and this kind of goes without saying – 100% is high enough that we can be sure it’s going to come down.
Your comment about +/- is pretty ridiculous. You seem to take the attitude that a statistic is either right or wrong, that it provides tonnes of value or almost none. It’s like you fail to realize that all statistics simplify, hiding some things and highlighting others. Do you really think we can take nothing from the fact that Eberle was even over thirteen games? It wouldn’t make a difference to you if he was -10? Or +10? That would be a silly position to take but it sounds like that’s where you’re going. All stats have limitations and, yeah, plus/minus has flaws, but not relevant? I guess goals aren’t that relevant either since they don’t always measure the player most responsible for getting the puck in the net and assists too since sometimes a player gets an assist without adding to the play and God knows errors are irrelevant since they conflate about ten different things and call them all one and the same and so on and so on.
by Scott Reynolds on Apr 24, 2010 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I expect to see Roy as the starter on the WJC team next year and hopefully he dominates the Q.
Eberle’s numbers will certainly fall, something in the range of a 40% decrease looks right. I think he’s going to produce similarly to Claude Giroux in Philly. They’re the same size, but they have almost opposite skill sets. Giroux was a PPG player in his 20 year old season for the Phantoms and I think Eberle will be close to the same.
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