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Avalanche 2 - Sharks 1: Game One Scoring Chances

Like Scott, I've decided to track scoring chances for one of the playoff series.  Unfortunately, I've been tasked with tracking chances for the Colorado Avalanche vs. San Jose Sharks series.  As I've talked about before, the Avalanche have been over-matched nearly all season, but Craig Anderson's early season performance was so good that the Avs got a big enough lead on 8th place that the late season slide wasn't enough to bump them from a playoff spot. 

I don't expect the playoffs to be any different. The Avalanche will likely be heavily outshot and outchanced by some big margin and only Craig Anderson will be able to save them. So I was somewhat surprised by Colorado's performance in game 1, though I'm not confident in repeatability. Colorado outshot San Jose 30-26 overall and 27-18 at even strength.  Colorado did have an overall Corsi of -6, which means San Jose had more zone time than the shots data indicates.

This game was a stilted, choppy affair, mostly played between the circles, punctured by bursts of activity around the net.  I wasn't really excited by this game at any point, but that's likely because I chose to record the Avs feed, meaning I got to listen to Peter McNab do color commentary for sixty minutes, plus intermission time.  It was agonizing. McNab is the worst color guy in hockey and I don't think it's close.  I know that Capitals and Flyers fans like to make fun of Bob Errey from the Penguins broadcast team and I've talked about Brian Hayward from the Ducks broadcasting team before, but neither of them come close to McNab on the agony scale.  By the end of the game, I was getting angry every time he spoke.  It's not that he's a giant homer in every bit of analysis that he does, let's face it most color guys are, it's that his awareness of what's going on is nil.  He talks about situations before he realizes what happens and when the replay shows something other than what he's talking about, he doesn't correct it, he tries to make something up instead.  He's brutal.

I made sure that I recorded the Sharks' broadcast for game two.

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Scott worked up the definition of scoring chances in his post on Los Angeles vs. Vancouver, and I'm going to steal it because it's excellent:

Scoring Chances

For those who'd like a definition: a scoring chance is defined as a clear play directed toward the opposing net from a dangerous scoring area - loosely defined as the top of the circle in and inside the faceoff dots, though sometimes slightly more generous depending on the amount of immediately preceding puck movement or screens.  Blocked shots are generally not included but missed shots are.  A player is awarded a scoring chance anytime he is on the ice and someone from either team has a chance to score.  He is awarded a "chance for" if someone on his team has a chance to score and a "chance against" if the opposing team has a chance to score.

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 5 8 5 4 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0
2 4 1 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 4 6 4 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 13 15 10 10 3 0 0 0 0 5 0 0


The chances at evens were even and that's what I saw during the game.  Colorado was more inclined to throw things at the net from a distance and hope for a mad scramble in front.  They got to the front of the net pretty often, but they weren't really able to tip many pucks.

San Jose chose to match Colorado's top line fronted by Paul Stastny with Devin Setoguchi, Ryan Clowe and Joe Pavelski and the Colorado kids won the matchup ever so slightly.

Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 30151

Team Period Time Note COL Opponent
SJS 1 19:23 PP - Tip 18 22 27 37 41 12 15 19 20 22 60 4v5
SJS 1 19:22 PP 18 22 27 37 41 12 15 19 20 22 60 4v5
SJS 1 18:11 PP 22 26 27 39 41 4 8 16 20 29 44 4v5
SJS 1 17:51 PP 10 18 37 41 52 4 8 16 20 29 44 4v5
SJS 1 17:24 Heatley Post 22 25 26 27 39 41 3 12 15 19 20 22 5v5
COL 1 17:15 4 25 26 27 39 41 3 12 15 19 20 22 5v5
COL 1 9:05 10 25 26 39 41 52 3 8 16 20 22 29 5v5
SJS 1 3:24 10 25 26 39 41 52 3 8 16 20 22 29 5v5
COL 1 2:43 4 15 16 26 41 44 3 8 20 22 29 60 5v5
COL 1 2:36 Post 4 15 16 26 41 44 3 8 20 22 29 60 5v5
COL 1 2:14 9 15 22 27 41 59 3 4 20 21 60 64 5v5
SJS 1 1:29 18 22 25 27 41 59 4 12 15 19 20 44 5v5
SJS 2 11:27 Post 4 9 23 41 44 4 8 20 29 40 4v4
COL 2 8:15 10 25 26 39 41 52 3 4 16 20 29 39 5v5
COL 2 7:22 PP GOAL 4 9 23 25 26 41 3 8 12 20 22 5v4
COL 2 2:24 4 9 23 25 26 41 4 20 21 27 44 5v4
COL 2 0:59 10 16 27 39 41 59 4 20 21 27 44 5v4
SJS 3 16:33 PP 18 22 27 37 41 12 15 19 20 22 60 4v5
SJS 3 12:01 GOAL 4 9 23 41 44 59 4 8 16 20 29 44 5v5
SJS 3 11:08 10 25 26 39 41 52 3 12 15 19 20 22 5v5
SJS 3 9:18 4 10 25 26 39 41 3 12 15 19 20 22 5v5
COL 3 9:04 22 25 26 39 41 52 3 12 15 19 20 22 5v5
COL 3 8:40 22 27 32 37 41 55 3 8 16 20 22 29 5v5
SJS 3 7:25 9 10 23 41 52 59 4 12 15 19 20 44 5v5
SJS 3 6:07 10 15 16 18 41 52 3 20 21 22 29 64 5v5
COL 3 0:55 22 25 26 27 39 41 4 12 15 19 20 44 5v5
COL 3 0:50 GOAL 22 25 26 27 39 41 4 12 15 19 20 44 5v5
SJS 1 4:26 Tip 4 32 37 41 44 55 7 17 20 27 39 40 5v5



# Player EV PP SH
4 J. LILES 17:02 3 4 2:28 2 0 0:00 0 0
9 M. DUCHENE 16:04 1 3 1:50 2 0 0:00 0 0
10 K. CUMISKEY 18:19 2 5 0:50 1 0 1:51 0 1
15 M. HENDRICKS 7:24 3 1 0:00 0 0 0:47 0 0
16 D. TUCKER 7:23 2 1 1:02 1 0 0:00 0 0
18 S. YELLE 10:28 0 2 0:00 0 0 2:05 0 4
22 S. HANNAN 18:25 5 2 0:00 0 0 2:09 0 4
23 M. HEJDUK 17:03 0 3 2:02 2 0 0:00 0 0
25 C. STEWART 14:56 6 5 1:50 2 0 0:00 0 0
26 P. STASTNY 18:19 8 4 1:50 2 0 0:41 0 1
27 K. QUINCEY 20:17 5 2 0:24 1 0 2:09 0 4
32 K. PORTER 10:23 1 1 0:00 0 0 1:14 0 0
37 R. O'REILLY 12:37 1 1 0:00 0 0 2:05 0 4
39 T. GALIARDI 16:06 6 4 1:02 1 0 0:51 0 1
41 C. ANDERSON 52:44 10 10 2:52 3 0 4:00 0 5
44 R. WILSON 15:39 2 3 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
52 A. FOOTE 16:34 3 4 0:00 0 0 1:51 0 1
55 C. MCLEOD 11:26 1 1 0:00 0 0 0:17 0 0
59 B. YIP 15:39 1 3 1:02 1 0 0:00 0 0


Meanwhile, San Jose tried to get Joe Thornton's line out against everyone else, and by my eye while watching and by the numbers, that line was completely underwhelming.  They weren't generating chances or shots and allowed Colorado's lower-tier players to play them to a standstill.

Sharks_chances_game_1_medium

San Jose was able to get to the front of Colorado's net pretty easily and they had an striking number of tipped pucks.  This is going to hurt Colorado pretty badly if it continues. 

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Good stuff Derek. I’m a little surprised at how few chances there were in the game overall. The second period looks like it was a real stinker. The Sharks are definitely going to need a more dominant performance from their top three forwards to win over the long haul. They might be able to eke out this series either way but going forward those guys are going to need to out-chance the opposition.

by Scott Reynolds on Apr 17, 2010 2:09 PM MDT reply actions  

Shots were 12-3 Colorado and chances were 4-1 Colorado, but it was almost all on the power play.

The second period had two long stretches without much action, lots of blocks and missed shots, plus scrums and stuff at center ice.

I’m half-way through game two and it’s a complete turnaround. It’s up and down with chances galore.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Apr 17, 2010 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

If your using the xsc10.php script from timeonice.com, you should switch to xsc10po.php. The regular season script uses three 20 minute periods and one 5 minute OT period, obviously this isn’t the way it works in the playoffs. Hopefully that works.

by Vic Ferrari on Apr 17, 2010 2:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Vic, if I ever meet you, I’m going to kiss you.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Apr 17, 2010 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, the xsc10.php worked fine for me in the first WAS-MTL game (with Washington outchancing the Habs 17-1 in the first, 9-0 at ES… Eeeek), but I’ll admit I was wondering what to do if they were to get to double overtime…

by Olivier on Apr 17, 2010 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Excellent! I was still using the regular season script and OT looked… fishy. So I did the first Vancouver game manually. Thanks a bunch Vic!

by Scott Reynolds on Apr 17, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Worked like a charm, Vic. I loaded game 1.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Apr 17, 2010 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Vic, still having some problems, even with the play-off script. For instance, this link shows my search for Vancouver scoring chances in the first game of the series. It gives me the L.A. player names, the Vancouver numbers, and a jumbled version of the numbers.

by Scott Reynolds on Apr 17, 2010 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Least I can do, Derek.

Years ago, a good friend of mine said - “By the time I was diagnosed as a sociopath, I was already affluent. So I didn’t give a fuck”. I’ll always remember that.

That’s not me, though. I’m feeling guilty as hell about all the work the scoring chance guys have done, and the fact that they’ll probably never truly know the value of it. In fairness I think they enjoyed doing it, and if you read their verbage in comments around the sphere since they started … all these cats have gotten a lot smarter through doing this. There is value in that.

Still, I’ll balance the debt by honouring programming requests. That’s my loose plan, anyways.

by Vic Ferrari on Apr 17, 2010 2:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Well, Vic, your new script gives me an “allowed memory size … exhausted” error with the first WAS-MTL game tally. Here is the URL generated by the xsc10po form if you feel like looking at it. The regular season (xsc10) works perfectly fine for me.

by Olivier on Apr 17, 2010 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Olivier

Damn. PHP doesn’t like big arrays. I allowed for three OT periods, obviously too much. Give me a few minutes to see what I can do.

by Vic Ferrari on Apr 17, 2010 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like 4 periods is about as much as PHP can handle. Your entry works now.

If you need more than that it will be a bitch to work around, but it can be done. Hopefully the OT games this spring don’t run too long. :-)

by Vic Ferrari on Apr 17, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oiliver, Scott, Derek

If you are interested, you can attach “&skip=” to the end of the timeonice.com playershots script. So, by way of example, if you recorded every Habs game from 20001 though 20600, except for games 20159 (at PIT) and 20502 (vs MIN) then:

/playershots0910.php?team=MTL&first=20001&last=20600&skip=20159 20502

You can skip as many or as few games as you need.

by Vic Ferrari on Apr 17, 2010 3:27 PM MDT reply actions  

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