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Dustin Penner, 45 Years Ago

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Lowetide often mentions Frank Mahovlich when he's writing about Dustin Penner.  Mahovlich, the big winger that wore Penner's same number 27 for the Maple Leafs, Canadiens and Red Wings, had many similar physical traits to Penner.  He had a long, loping stride, he was dominant on the boards in the offensive zone and was never afraid to stand in front of the net.  Both men can and  could play center when called upon and both men were and are under-rated defensive players.

There was another physical trait that the two shared.  From the CBC biography of Mahovlich:

Leaf Coach Punch Imlach was a stern taskmaster, who considered the Big M’s fluid style a sign of laziness. The tyrannical coach made Mahovlich his whipping boy, putting him through punishing workouts.

Mahovlich's "laziness" scored 533 goals in the NHL and accumulated 1103 career points.  Talk to some old-time Maple Leaf fans and to this day they will still bring up the fact that Mahovlich was slow or lazy and that he was carried by better men like Red Kelly, Alex Delvecchio and Gordie Howe.  That he averaged 30 goals per year for 18 years on three different teams is a matter of finding himself with some great linemates, apparently.

Not only do the two players have similar physical characteristics, but Mahovlich and Penner have are also tied together in that they are both independent, free-thinking, witty and often run up against the hockey machine.  Mahovlich is famous for his holdout in Toronto, one that irreparably damaged his already dented relationship with Punch Imlach.  Penner is famous for signing an offer-sheet and moving from a Stanley Cup team to the Oilers.  Imlach thought Mahovlich was lazy and tried to work the laziness out of him. Penner is thought of as lazy and unmotivated and faced the scorn of Randy Carlyle and Craig MacTavish.  Mahovlich had to deal with Imlach bad-mouthing him to the press, often to the point of rage.  Penner spent a year under siege in the media at the hand of Craig MacTavish.  Mahovlich was trashed in the media because his coaches and management turned on him.  Penner has been trashed in the media because MacTavish turned on him. 

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Even though both men were and are highly productive wingers, neither of them can win for winning.  Once the hockey establishment turns on you, the mouthpiece media is quick to follow.  In both of these cases, it was a case of management playing wag the dog.  Don't mind that we're not doing well, look at that guy.  Doesn't he look slow and lazy?

The physical similarities are striking, especially when you watch the videos below.  First is a video of Mahovlich.  I've started it :30 in so that you can see his warm up video.  He looks like a bird of prey, swooping around the ice in long, graceful movements, yet he's moving quickly.  Like Lowetide said:

The little men of the world always look like they're putting out maximum effort (Tie Domi looked like he was passing a kidney stone in full stride), while men like Dustin Penner (with long strides that often look plodding) are easy targets based on visual evidence.

 

 

And here's the video of Penner's breakaway goal against the Avalanche.

Note that Penner doesn't seem to be putting much effort into his stride, yet neither Brett Clark nor Kyle Cumiskey, both of whom are skating furiously, sticks everywhere, legs flailing and arms akimbo, could get close.  Fans that characterize Penner as "lazy" or "unmotivated" should remember this video.  Penner looks like he's out for a Sunday stroll, yet he's easily outpacing the defensemen on the ice.

Remember that article I wrote about groupthink and confirmation bias?  Edmonton fans and media types that have pounded Penner for on-ice sloth are perfect examples of the above.  The next time someone says something about Penner in that vein, remember that the same types of people said those same things about Frank freakin' Mahovlich.

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Thank you for this – I’m not a stats-y person (not that I think they aren’t valid, just don’t have the time to really figure them out enough to interpret them properly), but could never understand why so many insisted Penner was lazy when he was just very efficient in his movements. then again, I love to watch smooth, graceful skaters more than the choppy quick strides of so many other players who sometimes seem to get bonus points for looking more energetic.

Maybe it comes from trying to deal with people who insist that Nick Lidstrom isn’t a very good defenseman because he doesn’t punch people or hit very much – when they just never watched the smoothness of his skating and positioning. :)

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by Baroque on Apr 10, 2010 10:53 AM MDT reply actions  

As someone who’s presented the same paper on 3D kinematics of skating — Upjohn et al., 2008, from Sports Biomechanics 7(2) — two or three times for various classes, I’ve also come to appreciate the value of a long, deep skating stride. Short, choppy strides look more exciting, but aren’t terribly efficient.

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by Doogie2K on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well speed skaters don’t use short, choppy, strides…

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by Derek Zona on Apr 10, 2010 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

It always seems to me that the best speed skaters are not the ones who take the quickest strides, but the fewest.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Apr 10, 2010 11:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Works with non-human animals, too. The long, loping stride of a wolf covers an amazing amount of ground, and the stride of a cheetah owes a great deal to a spine so flexible that the distance covered by each stride is maximized.

Smooth skating is just so elegant and effortless that it looks like a player isn’t really trying that hard, when he is.

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by Baroque on Apr 11, 2010 5:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Smooth skating is just so elegant and effortless that it looks like a player isn’t really trying that hard, when he is.

Yeah, that kind of crap actually pushed me to write the Amicus Brief.

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by Derek Zona on Apr 11, 2010 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

The more time I spend in Kines, the more I wonder why NHL teams keep leaving undereducated ex-players in charge instead of people who know what the fuck they’re talking about.

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by Doogie2K on Apr 12, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s something that continues to bother me. The NHL is the only sport that does this.

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by Derek Zona on Apr 12, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

My god, look at how fat he is!

by Benjamin Massey on Apr 10, 2010 12:35 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I nominate Dustin Penner for the Alberta Senate!

by Benjammin' on Apr 10, 2010 5:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for this, Derek. The Big M was my favourite growing up. I saw him once in an exhibition game near his prime, and I saw practically every WHA game he played at the Coliseum when he was still a very good player but had lost that explosiveness. But still very smart and effective.

I was at the Avs game and I swear that I evoked the name of Frank Mahovlich when Penner scored the breakaway goal. Something about that move to the backhand reminded me exactly of him. David Staples has been making that same comp for a couple years.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Apr 11, 2010 12:12 AM MDT reply actions  

I was at the Avs game and I swear that I evoked the name of Frank Mahovlich when Penner scored the breakaway goal.

Mediocre minds think alike, eh Bruce? When I saw it, he just crossed the blue line and I think I may have said out loud, to no one but the dog “Whoa, Mahovlich” I wonder if Staples and Lowetide did the same.

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by Derek Zona on Apr 11, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

One thing to note about this is that Kyle Cumiskey is a tremendous skater. He’s one of the most exciting guys to watch on the Avalanche and often burns by defenders when he decides to rush the puck. In this particular video he gives up just before the blue-line to cover any rebound or trailer, I assume because he figured he had no chance to catch Penner which, in Cumiskey’s case, is saying something.

by Scott Reynolds on Apr 11, 2010 10:00 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah – Penner was on cruise control, but it was set at twice the speed limit.

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by Derek Zona on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

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