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Oilers v. Devils - 1 Chronicles 21:1-14

New Jersey Devils at Edmonton Oilers, Mar 7, 2010 5:00 PM PST


It was in 2003 that Lou rose up against the Oilers and incited Lowe to trade him his draft pick.  So Lowe said to Prendergast the leader of his scouts, "Go and tell the scouts that I've traded picks with Lou and get them to tell me who we should pick now that we have two draft picks instead of one."  But Prendergast replied, "Are you sure you wouldn't rather keep the one higher pick?  Why are you doing this?  If it doesn't work out you will cast blame on us as well as yourself."

But it was the general manager who had the final say, and so it was that Prendergast went to confer with the scouts about who the Oilers should select with their two selections.  When he came back to Lowe he gave him the names.  As the draft went along it became apparent that they had settled on Pouliot and Jacques.  Prendergast had omitted the names of Kesler and Richards because he was so upset with Lowe for the original trade.  And it wasn't just Prendergast that was repulsed.  God himself was very angry at Lowe for his sin.

After that selection God decided that the Oilers would miss the playoffs and when they did Lowe became aware of his sin.  So Lowe came to God and said, "I have sinned.  I should not have coveted lots of assets and should have instead been satisfied with the grace you had given.  I shouldn't have been counting the number of picks and relying on large numbers.  I should have relied instead on your favour.  I beg you, take away my guilt.  My actions have been foolish."

So Yahweh said to Howson, Lowe's seer and the one who heard Yahweh most clearly, "Go and tell Lowe, This is what Yahweh says: I will give you three options.  Choose one of them for me to carry out against you."

So Howson went to Lowe and said, "This is what Yahweh says: 'I am a God of compassion and will grant you a brief moment of favour but then you  must make a choice to atone for your sins: four decades without a Cup, four years without playoffs or four months without a word of praise from the media.  Choose one of them and I will make it happen.'"

So Lowe said to Howson, "What am I to do?  I want to win a Cup before I die but I also love praise and five years without playoffs will see me fired.  But perhaps I will find a way to keep my job!  Give us the five years without playoffs!"

So it was decided and Yahweh punished the Oilers with four years out of the playoffs because Lowe had shown that he did not trust in God's favour by accumulating two picks instead of trusting in God with the one pick that he had.

 

New Jersey Devils (38-22-3) @ Edmonton Oilers (20-38-6)

Rexall Place, 6:00 P.M. MST
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report:  Since the addition of Ilya Kovalchuk, the Devils haven't really played all that well going 3-4-1 in the eight games since the trade.  But that has more to do with goaltending and/or team defence than Kovalchuk.  The team's EV save percentage in those 8 games is .891 compared to .929 beforehand.  And just to make sure that we don't blame the struggles in goal on Kovalchuk's penchant for poor defensive play, Devil goaltenders have been much better (.907) when Ilya is out there.  Kovalchuk himself seems to have played well by the numbers with the Devils both outshooting (58-54) and outscoring (7-5) while he's on the ice.  As a team, the Devils have actually improved their outshooting numbers since acquiring Kovalchuk.  With the score close, the Devils have outshot their opponents 103-88 (53.9% of total shots are shots-for) compared to outshooting opponents 881-816 (51.9% of total shots are shots-for) before the trade.  Looking at total shots only makes that improvement more apparent.  So yeah.  The Devils were a good team at EV before the trade and the evidence so far suggests that they're probably a bit better at EV today.  

 

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (20-38-6):

Penner - Gagner - Nilsson
Cogliano - Horcoff - Comrie
O'Sullivan - Potulny - Pisani

Brule - Pouliot - Stortini

Gilbert - Whitney

Strudwick - Chorney
Johnson - Peckham


Backsides

 

New Jersey Devils (38-22-3)

Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Kovalchuk - Zubrus - Elias
Niedermayer - Clarkson - Rolston
Pandolfo - MacAmmond - Zharkov

Greene - Salvador
White - Mottau
Salmela - Fraser

Brodeur

 

Behind the Numbers:

 

  • With Patrick O'Sullivan taking over the lead from Shawn Horcoff (and Joffrey Lupul) for the worst plus-minus season ever, the world feels back in order and at -33 he's well ahead of Lupul's season already (-29).  There are actually three Oilers among the worst twenty Oiler seasons in history by plus-minus: Patrick O'Sullivan (-33), Shawn Horcoff (-28) and Robert Nilsson (-20).
  • Before tonight's game Fernando Pisani is tied with Dave Lumley for 31st on the Oilers all-time career regular season games played list with 386.  If he makes it into the top thirty I might need to relent and consider Pisani the first significant Oiler to play his whole career in Edmonton.  Right now 30th place belongs to Janne Niinimaa with 399.
  • The New Jersey Devils last won two consecutive games on January 9th and 12th.  The Edmonton Oilers last won two consecutive games on February 1st and 3rd.  Clearly, the Oilers are the better club.

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I feel like Oilers fans would do better to memorize Luke 13: 1-9, but that’s just an outsider’s opinion.

Just a quick update, Martin Skoula’s in for Mark Fraser and Andrew Peters is in for Jay Pandolfo. I’m not a fan of the second move, though.

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by John Fischer on Mar 7, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

Why do I get the feeling the Oilers will be taken to Skoula?

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:09 PM PST reply actions  

Pisani, Horcoff, Penner! The PHP line!

Like PHP, it looks good on paper and will pretty popular but isn’t actually going to work.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

Nilsson – Gagner – O’Sullivan is the Gagner line then?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

No – Pouliot on the opposite wing.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Marc Pouliot as a winger has been such a historic success.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah – same thoughts here.

Why not run

Penner – Horcoff – O’Sullivan
Nilsson – Gagner – Pisani

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind – it doesn’t matter.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So two of the mediocre centers are on the same line. Who are the other two centers tonight? Brule and Potulny?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Praise for Jeff Deslauriers on opposition telecasts is entirely out of proportion with his actual ability.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

This game is very clear in high definition.

Yes, this is the extent of my analysis to this point. I just got home from watching the Hitmen spank the Blades 6-1, in an exceedingly chippy game. This, oddly, looks like a step back. Yes, from junior.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

It’s old Lemaire versus the Oilers. I believe you.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesus, five total shots in fifteen minutes.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that takes the cake for cheap penalties.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 5:26 PM PST reply actions  

Oilers sucking less than usual today.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:26 PM PST reply actions  

They’ve already forced four icings ! ! ! 1 ! 1

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t get used to Rob Niedermayer on the New Jersey Devils. Just can’t do it.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

“Strudwick joins the rush.”

Oh boy.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

The only way for Strudwick to join a rush if is he strated in front of the rush to begin with.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Twice somebody has set Robert Nilsson up right between the circles and both times Nilsson has completely flubbed it. Buddy needs to make a play once a week or so.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun with acid-base indicators, brought to you by Rexall Pharmacies

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

Zharkov

I love this Zharkov kid – he’s going to be very good.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

The New Jersey colourman is whining about how old Edmonton’s arena is. I say, a billion dollars!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

Any New Jersey announcer who says anything derogatory about another arena should have his lips stitched together. The Swamp is finally gone, but it certainly hasn’t been forgotten.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I just saw one of the most disturbing images I’ve seen in a long time…not the starting 6 defencemen vs who they’ve got now graphic, not the old school lemaire style trap hockey (yuck!), but Strudwick and Gilbert sitting side by side on the bench, both with the “A” on their chests. Ugly.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

I figured that Katz would be auctioning them off to fans by now.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose nothing is sacred anymore

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Peckham

Buddy needs a really nice old-timey nickname to fit his game.

I suggest “The Richmond Hill Mauler”

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

So, how many games for Matt C—-?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

Same hit that Richards put on Booth. “traditionalists” said it was a hockey hit, Booth should have had his head up.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love to see him get a minute with Zdeno Chara after that vicious shot. Buddy deliberately injures opponents, has been doing it his whole career. If the NHL wasn’t such a bush league, he’d be out of it by now. He is scum.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not an answer, though. That this attitude prevails at all is pathetic. Plays that result in long-term injuries almost 100% of the time should never be “hockey plays.”

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The only way to solve it is the way that the NCAA has – automatic penalty for contact to the head

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t the CHL have a similar rule?

The usual argument against that in the NHL is that Chara and others wouldn’t be able to check some guys – 6’9" vs. 5’9" makes it tough to hit a guy anywhere else. I would prefer to see them err on the side of guys not getting seriously injured.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Both Richards-on-Booth and Cooke-on-Savard were vicious hits on a vulnerable opponent. The fact that they are legal underscores that the NHL is a bush league without regard for the safety of its own performers.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve wondered for some time why the NHLPA doesn’t have more to say about vicious hits. Players that get carried off on a stretcher after a dirty hit probably aren’t too happy about the guy that did it getting the same benefits of collective bargaining as everyone else. I would love to see, just once, the PA appeal a suspension decision on behalf of the injured player.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It is strange. It’s not as it the NHLPA would lose jobs if they were to get rid of goons and half-wits like Cooke.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

And the IIHF.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The New Jersey Devils intermission report just advertised speaking to the best hockey writer in North America.

Just so no viewers are confused, I’m not actually on their show and I resent the implication.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

how’d they get blackdog? that doesn’t make sense

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry massey, you’re number 2

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

In case your wondering, the actual guest is Jim Matheson.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Although Matheson claims that they tried to trade up to James Mirtle but couldn’t get a deal done.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I can live with that. It could be worse…especially knowing who writes in Edmonton’s MSM

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The New Jersey Devils television guys are so mouthbreathingly incoherent that I miss Edmonton’s MSM. Matheson looked like fucking Tolstoy.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

yikes

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Ew, Did Theo just chuckle at Gene’s “peck away” pun?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 5:54 PM PST reply actions  

BRULE! WORTH EVERY FUTURE PENN!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

$2,200,000 next year.

sigh

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Raffi Torres: 61GP, 19G, 12A, 31P
Gilbert Brule: 53GP, 13G, 16A, 29P

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

So excited you couldn’t type properly? :)

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Sign that kid now! He’s leading the NHL in goals in the last two minutes!

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Who does this kid think he is, capitilizing on his opportunities? Doesn’t he know he’s supposed to have double-digit goalless droughts between goals?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I know! Keeping his stick on the ice? Who taught him that? Next thing you know he’ll be using duct tape on everything.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

O’Sullivan got an assist and a plus on that goal, what are the chances he finishes with more points than minuses for the season? Or goes on a hot streak and finishes the year better than Lupul’s -29?

I think unlikely on both counts, but it would be a good “pump & dump” for the summer if he finishes well.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

The under 26 buyout is better.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So, are you guys as excited for “She’s Out of My League” as I am? Eh? Ehhhh?

Maybe I’ll take a date to it. That’ll make a statement!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

ADD saves the puck from every single NHL win, wow. That could be three or four more pucks this year.

And cue Dubnyk crying into his glove. Poor guy just wants one.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

Well maybe if Dubyk could get that save percentage above flatline, he might get a win.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Not only are these commentators morons, they’re homers too.

Like me.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

Is one of them Chico Resch?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he say “Za ach” lovingly?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it just me, or have the Oilers looked pretty PLAYOFFS! since the deadline? Maybe Visnovsky was the problem all along!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

with his beautiful unassisted ppg tonight in anaheim.yup, part of the problem…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

nice.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitkanen with a goal and +2 tonight as well.

Fun team if they keep Pitkanen and Visnovsky and never sign Souray.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I just rewatched Lubo’s goal (the joys of gamecenter…) and it was a phenomenal individual effort. God I already miss watching him play. What an incredible skater. I am certain it will be on the highlight reels tonight

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It was. What a dandy.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitkanen, Visnovsky, Tanguay, Malhotra, Moore and Hejda.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Cody Wild, -4 in three games in Providence, three Providence losses and a goal differential of -5

Ouch.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:37 PM PST reply actions  

Then it’s a good thing they ditched that bum and kept Chorney.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Courage

Wow. Millard is using the courage line. Wow.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

The Edmonton Oilers must control all media in the Western half of Canada.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

LOWETIDE JR.!

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

Nilsson

He’s so damned talented.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

That play by Gagner to get the puck up…

Kid’s arrived.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

you took the words out of my mouth. helluva play to make that happen. Gagner’s getting some courage now. I like it

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

you took the words out of my mouth. helluva play to make that happen.

There might be a point before Hemsky is traded in two years where Gagner passes him as the Oilers best player.

Gagner’s getting some courage now.

Great. Now the readers are trolling me. Have you been hanging out with Massey?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t even see that post RE Millard…Sorry Derek. Next time I’ll use crust or jam or something…
Also, I doubt Massey and I will ever hang out, but if we do, it could be fun. I just live too far away from most of you

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m quite sure you’re in driving distance for me.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you were in Saskatchewan? But my door is always open…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

North of Pittsburgh. I hit Niagara once a year and Buffalo once or twice a year, though if the Bills decide to be the Oilers of the NHL again – I’ll pass on my yearly pilgrimmage.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Bit far out to catch the Oilers bug. I’ve always been curious: you an expat, or were you just always smitten with Kurri?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I’ll do a post on this.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

you should. that would be a great read.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way – how can you not be smitten with Kurri?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

By being too young to remember him in his prime.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurri was an absolute joy to watch.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually think Parise is a pretty interesting comparable.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what my dad always told me.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh, now I feel even older.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, Bruce. Though, really, your son’s probably about my age. This shouldn’t surprise you. ;)

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s 22. I’m glad I was around during Jari Kurri’s time, though. I really need to write an article about him some time. He was one of those guys who was underrated by everybody including in his own town, and still made the Hall in a walk.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, good. Now I feel less bad about age. I am 6 years older than your son. That is a relief.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m only one year older than Bruce’s son. Disconcerting.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Eat your vegetables.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I was older than you before I even became a dad.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m 23. I wish I’d been around for Kurri’s/Gretzky’s prime. I’m glad I saw Lemieux at his peak — the ’91 and ’92 Finals are the first I remember, which is a horrible bit of irony.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad I’m just old enough to remember 87 and 88. And I have a collage of photos and autographs from 90 back at my mother’s house in Edmonton. I think? I hope. Shit…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s bad when you can’t tell if your memories of Messier, Lowe, and Kurri lifting the Cup at the Garden in ’90 are from the first time or stock footage, because you were three and a half when it happened.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t worry Bruce. we have no plans to put you at the retirement castle any time soon.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad to oblige, old man. ;)

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

which one of us is the jerk?

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The kid that just called me old

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You survived the Blitz, you can survive this.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

aside from Bruce, aren’t I the oldest one in this conversation? It’s not that bad…trust me.
(Then again, I am a professional student, so I never really have to grow up)

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I’m 40 (although no one thinks I look it).

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, beauty and wisdom, an unbeatable combination.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed…and your wisdom shows in your writing. I still think that post you did last month about the 85 series against Philly was one of the best pieces of sports writing I’ve ever read, Bruce.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks! Epic fail on the beauty front, though. Have you seen my avatar?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s why I only mentioned the wisdom…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yessir – that was so great, though I’m still very partial to the Randy Gregg article.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the wonder of the internet – no one can see what a plain Jane you actually are in real life. :)

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I’m partial to plain Janes myself. Less pretentious.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

often…and easier to have an actual conversation with

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

pfft

When I meet some of my internet friends later this month, I think it will be a horrible letdown. Not my fault they have unrealistic expectations, however – so I’m not fussing over it.

Besides, I grew up in a big family – any threats of pretentious attitude and you can always count on brothers and sisters to bring you back down to solid earth.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we would be about the same age, but I’m older since I’m out of the time warp of grad school now.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s that like? I’m in year one of a PhD. When does it end?

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

“End”? I think you’ve been severely misled ;) Get acquainted with this. Frighteningly accurate.

Seriously though, if you’re doing interesting research it’s worth it. I got married, built a house, and then had to finish last year after 3.5 years and I couldn’t stretch it out any longer. And it’s not a bad idea to ride out the recession in academia anyways.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I love my research. I don’t love my coursework and the dept. head hates my supervisor. No external awards for me. I figure if I can get it done in 5 I’ll be ok. 6 is pushing my luck, and my bank account a bit too far into the red. Especially with my field work needing to get done overseas. Congrats to you for getting it done though!

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re doing better than I managed. I made a stab at a masters degree twice and didn’t manage to complete it either time – just too many other things going on to devote the time required to it.

I learned a lot, though, and my mom always reminds me that if you learn something, the time isn’t wasted at all.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, uh, I dropped out of my bachelor of arts program three years in?

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

but you write better than most of the dumb-asses who will finish

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. Every field is so different, I got lucky with funding and the amount of time I could finish in. Good luck with your research! Coursework ends soon enough.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

My sister loves that comic. She just finished her PhD and graduates in April, and has been getting rejections from her job searches all over the place. She does have a couple options (she has a lot of work experience since she only went to grad school in her late 30’3), but she would like a faculty position. Still, at least she does have the capacity to use her P.E. as a consultant at the least.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I particularly enjoy when they take the piss out of science reporting in the media. I can’t find the “Science Loop” one, but this works, too.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m in sociology…a pseudoscience that pretends to be real by using stats sometimes. that comic is priceless to me. (It’s also why I am switching to cultural studies. It’s much safer to do real work there)

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m in biology – which means if I taught I’d be getting in infuriating arguments about how not only is “intelligent design” not science, it’s also lousy theology.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

oh my god yes

One of the things I did was teach a lab section for a biostats course, and the first thing I had to do each week was correct the errors the lecturer had made since the last lab.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

nice. the joys of TA/Lab work

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It was fun – but my favorites were picking out the teacher evaluations at the end by the students who showed up to one out of every four labs, turned in all their assignments late, and were completely clueless about why they were failing the course.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

mine was intentionally marking with red pen, just to be a dick. That stopped after my first semester when I remembered how many courses I failed and how awful it felt.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never felt bad about marking in red. I don’t understand this.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard that it’s a harsh color, and purple or green is “gentler.”

Whatever color you use, a lot of writing all over is depressing. That’s why I tried to write a lot on everyone’s papers, both good and bad comments, so no one could tell at a glance who had done poorly just by the amount of writing.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

me too. As a rule now, it’s lots of comments regardless of the grade. That way they stand a chance of improving and not making mistakes like trying to convince me that Karl Marx was a capitalist

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

my favorite: some variant of “Lizards, frogs, and other reptiles are called cold-blooded because their body temperature is always much lower than their surroundings.”

No, no, no, no, and more no.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

POIKILOTHERMIAAAAAA!

/KHAAAAAN!’ed

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a bio major for a minute or two before I realized that I pretty much hated everything that wasn’t a macroscopic look at the human body. Thus why I’m now in Kinesiology.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I love micro – but also ecology, evolutionary biology, behavioural physiology – pretty much everything but botany.

I couldn’t focus enough on just one thing to pick a grad school topic, I guess. Broad interest was my downfall.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I have broad interests, too. Unfortunately, none of them are those things. I was so devastated when I found out BIOL 311 (Genetics) wasn’t going to be a semester full of Punnett squares.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

hee hee

I actually have to see what some of the local universities around my home have for classes – there has been so much more done with biochemistry and genetics since I was in school, and some of it is very exciting.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I can imagine. I know they recently used a knockout technique to isolate genes that would influence the efficacy of cancer drugs, which is really fantastic news.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

you guys do way cooler stuff then I do. I’m just trying to solve the middle east peace process…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The stuff we do in my major is more related to athletic performance and injury prevention. The guy who does the motion-capture golf system for Taylor-Made is an associate prof at U of C.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno, maybe it’s because I’ve almost always gotten good grades, but I have no problem with red ink. Though I did mark in orange for a while. Hard to fake up marks after the fact when your TA uses orange.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Red never bothered me, either – but I didn’t like it when my paper was marked up with a wide-tipped pen because it looked sloppy and didn’t give me enough room to write my own notes around their scribbles.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough. The only writing I ever had to grade were lab reports, which tended to be pretty checklisty, so I never had to make many comments either way.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

research papers

Are a freaking nightmare. The worst feeling is reading over a page, having no idea what they are saying, and you only option is to make a big cross over the entire page and write “see me” in the margin.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

We did have to do peer reviews for an undergrad class, in first year. I gave up after the fourth page because apparently they don’t teach you how to write a long-form paper — or a coherent sentence, for that matter — in high school anymore.

I wept a little for the death of the English language that night.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

that is the worst…now I am TAing a class that is exclusively electronic submissions via webct, and electronic grading too. It’s different, but no less of a challenge

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

My favourite was when I TA’d two programming courses. I loved helping the kids figure out their programming errors, and marking was a breeze: it worked or it didn’t. If I did my job during lab, 3/4 of the time, I didn’t have to do much work to find out why it didn’t work and what to dock.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

But they’re the future politicians, lawyers, and economists of the world! That makes it much easier to fail them.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

what was funnier

Was when my dad was an adjunct professor for a few years after he retired as a research chemist. He’d describe the girls coming in to his office to talk about their grades, and they would be tearing up, and he would either laugh at them and compliment them on their acting, or just mention that he raised five children, three of them girls, and if it didn’t work on him when his own daughters tried to work up a cry, it wouldn’t work for them.

I could have told them that. And I was the oldest, so if anyone should have been able to play that game it should have been me. No dice.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I sometimes wind up sitting near these people in my Engineering class. They think the prof hates them because they got a C- on their midterm, which they freely admit they did no preparation for after spending half the lectures screwing around and drawing penises on the desk.

I don’t have the heart to tell them the prof doesn’t know nor care who the fuck any of them are.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I could get my sister started on that easily (she’s an engineer) because as a female in a largely male field, she had no patience for students who thought that they should get a good grade for showing up – she figured that if she had to work so hard to get good grades, why should anyone else get off easily?

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a head for math, but that doesn’t mean I don’t try. I do way more practice than I probably have to, but I’m also gunning for straight A’s from here to grad school.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Good for you – I graduated summa cum laude, and although I don’t think of it as a major life accomplishment anymore, I am proud that I did so well.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I learned my lesson after flushing my last semester at DeVry. I could’ve graduated at least cum laude, but spent my entire last semester playing Starcraft in class. Needless to say, I got a 2.75 that semester and finished with a 3.49, just below the cut.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

“When you’re dead.”

(I know a Ph.D. student or two, who are less than enamoured with the process.)

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I know a guy who’s in his 12th year at the U of A. BSc, BEd, MSc, almost done a PhD. He told his girlfriend he was doing a postdoc (joke) and she yelled at him for twenty minutes. He interviewed for a job as a prof. Now THERE’S a lifer.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m in year ten. BSc at DeVry, a few years on the scenic route trying to find the supplemental degree I needed for prosthetics, finally found it, now three years into a BSc in Biomechanics at U of C.

I’m looking at doing lab work with a motor control lab after graduating to pay for Mom to go to school, then it’s off to BCIT.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

year 11 for me as we speak…7 year BA at UofA, going through 3 different majors and a dean’s vacation, 1 year upgrade, 2 year MA at last chance U (Windsor) and now at Queens. Somehow I think it worked out ok…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Dean’s Vacation?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

booted out for poor academic performance causing me to get sent down to the farm for a two year re-conditioning stint. The farm being Grant MacEwan

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha. Did you get double-secret probation first?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah…too stoned to care at the time. As I said, I am on a full scholarship at Queens now, so I guess it turned out alright. Though I wish I could get an external grant (SSHRC, the arts version of NSRC)

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not really a spiritual sort, but I do think things tend to happen for a reason. Glad to hear things turned out for you.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I had to finish up my undergrad in 3.5 years – my scholarship was running out. Fortunately I picked the right major the first time so I didn’t have to change.

Although if I had it to do over I would have doubled up biology and chemistry.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

My DeVry stint was three years, because they rushed the hell out of everything: all killer, no filler, and three semesters a year. U of C…took a while. Two years Bio, one year Chem, one year languages (bad year personally, stepped it back big time), and now three years Kines.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad I’m just old enough to remember 87 and 88

I remember Kent Nilsson with the Flames. The Atlanta Flames.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I was born a year too late

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember Kent Nilsson with the Winnipeg Jets. He was WHA Rookie of the Year the first year I had season tickets. Wayne Gretzky won the same honour the next year. (I was Doogie’s age!)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

What was it like being able to afford WHA/NHL season tickets at my age? I can barely afford WHL tickets. (Forget all about making my reservations for the World Juniors in 2012.)

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I really only remember him as an Oiler. That was a good year.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

really? I always thought you were in Canada somewhere. Yeah, feel free to hit me up. you’re definitely in driving distance. If you’re gonna go to a Bills game, feel free to let it be against the Dolphins and I’ll meet you there.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

NUMBER FOUR! NUMBER FOUR!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

WOO HOO!!!

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by HF4L on Mar 7, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Akon?

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by HF4L on Mar 7, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep…lol

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by HF4L on Mar 7, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a really nice goal. I like the lunging dive to slap it across to Pouliot (sp).

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

Nilsson turning Colin White inside out just prior to that was pretty. Nilsson is maddening in that he has more god given talent than anyone on the Oilers not named Hemsky yet he has the consistency of oatmeal.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Runny oatmeal at that. So much talent and yet in flashes only.

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by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll say. I was just going to make a snarky comment about Nilsson being about as useful as a third tit on a bull tonight and then he goes and does that.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The funny part was our read on the sequence. Gagner makes the tough play to keep the play going in the right direction and it reinforces what we all know is happening with him. Nilsson makes the highlight reel undressing of Colin White and a diving one-handed assist and we all know that we won’t see it again until March 26th.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Checking in for the third period here and it looks like the Oilers are about to run up another win. How ’bout that.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 7, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

We’re just fourteen major disqualifications from the PLAYOFFS!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

These refs are horrible.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

Bruce McCurdy, everyone.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Somebody has to call them out

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s another weak call, this one on Clarkson. Just about every call tonight has been crap, but they miss stuff like Pouliot getting hogtied on a breakaway.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I have no idea how they don’t throw an arm up on that Pouliot break.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Penner sighting

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

Good work, Sportsnet graphics department. Don’t think I didn’t see that Oilers logo hiding behind the Devils logo on your “Game Story” screen.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, nice catch. And gave me an excuse to use my new PVR.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I love my new HDTV. I don’t believe I’ve mentioned this before. ;)

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Got a new TV at an after-Xmas sale, then got the HD box and PVR yesterday :D It even makes curling look better.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, I don’t know how I lived before I had HD. The Olympics were glorious. Even the fog at Cypress looked great.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The Olympics ate up enough of my life without HD and a PVR.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Now imagine if you’d had those things. Would you have slept for those two and a half weeks?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure if I would have slept less watching everything I missed during the day or more because I could PVR the late events and watch them later.

I’ll go with less. Is it possible to get negative sleep?

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends. Is it finals? If so, then yes. Finals break the laws of space and time.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

got one a little while ago too. I haven’t done much school work since.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too. Love that 15-second windback button, use it a lot.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

that I can’t afford. Just the interweb and gamecenter, but running the computer through the HDMI is good enough for me.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Where do these guys on Sportsnet get their information? Devils haven’t won in Edmonton since 1995? I’ve seen them live twice since then and NJD won both, 2-1 in 2001 or so and 3-1 in 2007.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Eklund.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to say, didn’t Comrie and Kovalchuk have a go in 2001 or 2002? Louie remembers this as well.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

Here we go. December 8, 2002. Video.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This is going to be a difficult post-game to write. I’m not sure how to handle it.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

The Devils have been pretty listless. Since I started watching they haven’t had a scoring chance that I remember.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 7, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

If I were a Devils’ fan I’d be officially Worried. They have sucked in this game, full stop.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s hard to have urgency against the worst team in the league

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Be positive Benjamin!

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a very Moreauesque penalty by Clarkson there. 200’ from his own net with 2:31 left in a game and they’re down.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

It’s nice not to have to worry about those anymore!

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t missed thecaptain even a tiny bit. The worst part about his absence is its impermanence.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s one of those tragic-comic kind of statements. or at the very least sad but true

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the biggest disappointment of the deadline to me was the Moreau non-trade.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Losing Lubo, despite the long-term good it will do for both his career and the finaincial state of the Oilers still hurts me a little more.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss the old Lubo. Unfortunately, I had already been missing him for a couple of months before the trade.

I think it was a necessary step. Derek will disagree. :)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you on that, as my fanpost the other day plus the tribute I placed up on my page indicated. However I still miss that silky smooth stride.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The crowd seems to be a lot noisier than they were earlier, in the first period I don’t remember hearing anything but the game even one time.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

Shutout Deslauriers?

My reality is shattered.

PLAYOFFS!

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

He’s got, like, three of the damned things.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. It’s like Shepso says, he’s either fantastic or awful, with nothing in between. Somehow, we got Fantastic Jeff tonight.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s either really great or really terrible. There’s zero middle ground with him

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s really terrible much more often than really great.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed. That being said though, when he’s good, he’s surprisingly good. I’ll never really jump on the bandwagon like some MSM types have, but once in a while I get surprised. But yes, mostly he’s the worst french Canadian goalie since Red-Light Racicot

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno, I think he’s really shoved it up the backsides of his critics with his performance the last couple of nights.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s great just often enough Tambellini will give him a contract for next season.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to the game Friday and he was flat-out excellent in that one.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. When he’s goodd, he’s wonderful. When he’s bad, he’s redlightt. Nice jab at RB there Doogie…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

But not great enough to worry about my backside.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

WOO HOO!!

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by HF4L on Mar 7, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

The last time the Devils were shut out? It was at Toronto.

There’s a lesson there, somewhere, but not for us.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

That if the Devils meet someone like the Isles or the Thrashers in the first round, they’re fucked?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Lots of skill but no passion? That’s kinda what I saw out of the Devils tonight. Then again Lemaire’s teams always seem to suck the joy out of the game.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like they’re playing up or down to their competition. I mean, they did a number on the Sharks before giving most of it back up late about a week ago.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Saw the replay again, and while Nilsson’s move makes the highlight reel, Gagner’s really should, too. Spinnarama, behind the back pass to a man in motion while being knocked down. That’s pretty awesome.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

our hobbit is growing up!

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Quinn’s going to yell at him for that spin-o-rama.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 7, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

“Cut those sideburns!”

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone needs to get that kid an onion for his belt. Damned kids these days. What if they run into a vampire?

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

And nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them in those days. “Gimme five bees fer a quarter”, you’d say.

by edm_euler on Mar 7, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

on a completely unrelated note, the Ducks managed to blow a 3-0 lead against the habs and won 4-3 in a shootout. But man alive was Lubo’s goal sweet

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

by which I mean the habs won 4-3

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Since all the traffic is in this thread, I’m going to spoil the PGT and tell you all that the two of the Reverse Three Stars are Stortini and Penner.

No, the other one is not Jari Kurri just to complete the Trifecta of Picking On Guys We Love, but I thought about it.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, Fernando could burn Rexall to the ground and piss on the ashes and he could never be a reverse three star to me.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 7, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

harsh…but fair. Stortini did take out old Deaner though. I am not sure how I feel about that either.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Clean hit, shoulder to chest. Not sure what happened to McAmmond – shoulder? – but it sucks that he got hurt.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 7, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Massey, that’s a fine post-game report… Particularly some of what you said about the unnamed missing reverse star. Comic gold.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

Well, good night everyone – have a pleasant week at work or at grad school!

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Mar 7, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

You too, Baroque. Good chatting.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 7, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed. I may go over to massey’s new thread and then pass out. The joys of every weekend being a long weekend…

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry for the school based inadvertent thread-jack… I was trying to help steer the conversation to the new page, but then I gave up in favor of my inner academic getting to run free.
Good chatting with all of you tonight…as always..
But in all seriousness, go to the new thread. Benjamin has some great stuff up there.

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by shepso on Mar 7, 2010 8:54 PM PST reply actions  

It’s too bad I missed the rest of the conversation, but my wife got home after being away for the weekend. Looks like Oilers fans are an (over)educated bunch, that could explain the high number of stats geeks.

by edm_euler on Mar 8, 2010 6:15 AM PST up reply actions  

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