Oilers v. Blackhawks - Genesis 4:1-8
by Scott Reynolds on Mar 3, 2010 5:00 PM MST
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PrintEdmonton Oilers at Chicago Blackhawks, Mar 3, 2010 6:30 PM MST
So Luck lay down at the draft and blessed the Blackhawks with a son and named that son Kane. She said, "With Yahweh's help I have made a wonderful hockey player." A few picks later Luck smiled on the Oilers and gave them a son and named him Gagner. Over the course of time Kane brought his best deke to Yahweh as a deke offering. Now Gagner also brought his best pass as a pass offering. Yahweh smiled on Gagner and his offering but had no regard for Kane's. So Kane became furious, and his appearance was downcast.
So Yahweh said to Kane, "Why are you so angry? Why is your face red with rage? If you do something I like, of course I'll accept you, but why should accept your Rob-Schremp-rip-off dekes? So be careful, because all kinds of sin are waiting at your door."
So Kane went to his old teammate Gagner and said, "Hey, let's play some hockey tonight, your Oilers against my Hawks." So they did and it happened that Kane's Hawks absolutely slaughtered Gagner's Oilers.
Edmonton Oilers (19-37-6) @ Chicago Blackhawks (41-16-5)
United Center, 6:30 P.M. MST
Television: TSN2
More analysis after the jump...
Visiting Team Scouting Report:
Look, Chicago is a really, really good team and the Oilers are icing a defence that includes Jason Strudwick on the top pairing. They have Jeff Deslauriers in goal. The forwards aren't as bad as those other two positions but they're pretty bad. Chicago leads the league in shot differential (+9.6 shots per game) and some of that was accumulated without Marian Hossa in the lineup. I'm not at all convinced that the team the Oilers are icing tonight would be favoured to beat the Rockford Icehogs (36-23-5 in the AHL), a team that's having a "Cereal Bowl Night." And if you can't beat a team having "Cereal Bowl Night" you sure as hell can't beat the Chicago Blackhawks. If this isn't an embarrassing crush I'll be upset.
Expected Lineups:
Edmonton Oilers (19-37-6):
Penner - Gagner - Nilsson
Just Waive Him! - Horcoff - He's Still Here?
O'Sullivan - Potulny - Brule
Cogliano - Pouliot - Jones
Gilbert - Strudwick
Chorney - Peckham
Motin - Arsene
Backsides
Chicago Blackhawks (41-16-5)
Sharp - Toews - Kane
Brouwer - Bolland - Hossa
Versteeg - Madden - Byfuglien
Ladd - Fraser - Kopecky
Keith - Seabrook
Hjalmarsson - Campbell
Johnsson - Sopel
Huet
Behind the Numbers:
- The bottom four Oiler defenders have played 47 career NHL games combined. Taylor Chorney leads the pack with 24, followed by Theo Peckham with 21, Dean Arsene with 2 and Johan Motin with 0. Have fun in your NHL debut Johan!
- Johan Motin has been a healthy scratch in the AHL on more than once this season.
- The Springfield "It's a good thing they don't have a game tonight" Falcons have a record of 20-32-12 in the AHL. Their defenders will now attempt to defend against a team that has taken more shots and scored the third most goals in the NHL with Jeff Deslauriers in goal.
- The NHL record for most goals by one team in a single NHL game is 16 and was established in 1920 when the Montreal Canadiens defeated the Quebec Bulldogs 16-3. But, as we all know, records were made to be broken.
- The Chicago Blackhawks already hold the record for most shots in a single game with 81. That record was established in a 1941 game against the Boston Bruins. The Hawks won the game despite scoring only three goals.
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can we forfeit this game? it’s gonna be uglier then the blowout that happened in Edmonton last winter. Ugh…
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I sure hope so. Seventeen goals on eighty-two shots! Come on you Blackhawks! Let’s Go!
by Scott Reynolds on Mar 3, 2010 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
Here I thought the game was only on webcast and I wouldn’t be tempted to watch it. Now I see it’s on TSN2 and I’ll be drawn to it like a trainwreck.
The over/under of this game is 5.5. No really, not a typo: five-and-a-half goals between both teams. God, it’s tempting to take a second mortgage for that bet.
“Chicago 6, Edmonton 0” seems awfully likely to me.
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 5:33 PM MST up reply actions
Jeff Deslauriers will go on the injured report as “out indefinitely – gunshot”.
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
What the hell.
NHL_Oilers has Moreau scratched
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Operation Pump and Dump has failed! Pat Quinn will now revert to proper NHL coaching, playing his most effective players and matching lines! Meanwhile, Steve Tambellini, having secured a first-class lottery pick, will Relentlessly Rebuild this team to the top of the conference with smart deals like the Staios trade!
Yes!
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
Comrie is also a healthy scratch.
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Impending unrestricted free agent! Pump and dump! Pump and dump!
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 6:43 PM MST up reply actions
(also relatively effective, unfortunately, but…)
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 6:43 PM MST up reply actions
Fun fact: of the Oilers’ six defensemen tonight, four (Gilbert, Strudwick, Chorney, and Peckham) are career EV-.
The other two are Dean Arsene and Johan Motin, who have two NHL games combined and are even.
never mind… the oilers are actually giving away this gong show for free
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Only on the prairies and the Arctic, mind.
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
i’m able to get it from the main page, rather than following the link…there is confirmation that Arsene is not yet in the building but will play as soon as he actually arrives
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
Numbers
These numbers are confusing. Okay, 58 is Motin, 28 is Jones.
Arsene not in the building yet.
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Playing five defensemen, one of whom is wearing #58? You might just be a lottery team!
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 PM MST up reply actions
You’re not going to believe this, but Johan Motin is the first Oiler ever to wear #58 in a regular season game. Even Sebastien Bisaillon got #60.
Mind you, Bryan Young got #76, which as jersey numbers go is pretty much a great big “hi, I’m a bum, score on me at will.”
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 7:01 PM MST up reply actions
I thought that was #43?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
I also can’t figure out the lines outside of 27-89-12
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with captain stupid in the pressbox, is someone else wearing the C?
also, more of Captain Stupid in the pressbox please.
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:03 PM MST up reply actions
This is all so confusing, but I think that there is no C, at least from what I can tell. I’ve seen Pisani and Penner in A’s thus far.
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without Hemmer, Staios and Souray in the line-up, Penner and Pisani have worn the A this year, mostly Penner, who I am pretty sure has just taken Hemsky’s A since he went down, but I’m guessing it will become regular with steady gone. What about Horc? It also looks like he’s playing with Zorg and new Ryan tonight, but I can’t really tell
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
It also looks like he’s playing with Zorg and new Ryan tonight,
I thought so too. Weird line.
27 – 89 – 12
19 – 16 – 34
13 – 78 – 67
28 – 10 – 46
Is that it?
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yeah, oddly enough, that is the lineup. I don’t even know what to say about this… queue Massey for appropriately witty and sardonic retort about my inability to speak
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
I didn’t know that * * made things bold…that was supposed to indicate my expectation of Ben eventually making fun of me…instead I learned about technology. neat
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:27 PM MST up reply actions
So I didn’t have to make fun of you – you did it all by yourself!
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 7:30 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
yup…I am so smart, smrt…I mean smart…thank god for simpsons references…
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:34 PM MST up reply actions
Why in the world are Moreau and Comrie scratched?
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And Comrie isn’t coming back, so if we’re Relentless Rebuilding, he’d be the guy to sit.
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 7:04 PM MST up reply actions
He’s been awful since Chorney was good.
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They said Comrie was a late scratch, and that Zorg was a late addition.
Works for me. 28-10-46 had a decent period.
That said, every Oiler skater had a negative Corsi, and every Chicago skater a positive one. Arsene can’t arrive soon enough.
And, how come he wasn’t sharing a plane/cab with Motin. Didn’t they both come from the same place?
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And, how come he wasn’t sharing a plane/cab with Motin. Didn’t they both come from the same place?
Maybe they had to take different flights because of booking and such
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The Comrie and Moreau scratches are both a mystery.
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I figure Comrie is out shopping with his soon-to-be wife on that magnificent mile downtown, and as for moreau, separation anxiety from his hetero-lifepartner has led to a sort of sad panic attack.
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:33 PM MST up reply actions
Moreau has had a bad neck for awhile. Last night they were showcasing him, tonight there’s no purpose to it. I’d rather have Zorg and Jones in there anyway.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM MST up reply actions
agreed…
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:40 PM MST up reply actions
So he’s done for the rest of the year?
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Suits me. But no, it’s just a chronic thing, usually only bothers him during bag skates.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
God Damn it..I’m a HUGE Comrie fan & here in NY I’ve got the Blackhawks broadcast so there’s no news & the Oilers website says nothing. God, when is Quinn going to put Comrie in the middle? He’s the most creative guy on the team
Comrie won’t play center. It was part of the agreement when he signed.
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He refuses to play there and that was part of his deal to come to Edmonton.
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Peckham
His shake-n-bake went awry
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Gilbert with 10 minutes played in the first. He’s gonna play half the game tonight at least…
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He and Whitney are going to do so the rest of the year.
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that scares me
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:42 PM MST up reply actions
Nope. What’s going to be scary is when Tambellini trots out the “free agents” narrative when discussing Hemsky, Souray, Khabibulin next year.
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I’ll pray to Jewish God to avoid this if you’ll pray to whomever yours is. Deal? This offseason is going to suck more than the season itself, isn’t it?!
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:46 PM MST up reply actions
“We really feel like we’re adding three all-star free agents in Ales Hemsky, Shellie and Bulin”
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why must you persist on making me feel worse Derek? That is going to be most unpleasant, yet totally accurate. Tambi boggles the mind, even at the best of times.
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
Almost 13 feet of goalie
And they get beat high whenever they aren’t getting beat short side.
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13 feet high, but lean and skinny. Dubnyk is more of a human rake then the original human rake. 6’6 and less than 200lbs does not make for supreme net coverage short side or by the corners. These guys aren’t built for butterfly.
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
2 of them in a row.
If I’m an Oiler, the next time he goes down I’m getting my 2 minutes worth.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
Our two highest-priced forwards beat the puck square on a SH 2-on-1.
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Penner
Is quietly playing a really good game.
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But can’t get a call to save his life.
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That last rush wasn’t offside, but it was interference/tripping/slewfooting on whoever took Horcoff down. I don’t blame Penner for being PO’d, and I don’t mind seeing him show it either.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
Me either. Needs to show that when he’s captain next year.
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Motin
Johan, that fake around control the puck may work in the AHL…
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Zorg
Just went face first in to block that shot.
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If he does that often enough he’s gonna pressbox himself.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
At least he’s got the heart to do it. A certain captain doesn’t have it.
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No questioning Zorg’s heart. It’s why I have all day for the big lug.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:04 PM MST up reply actions
Peckham
I like him tossing Toews around and burying Kane late in the corner. He seems to lack a respect for protocol. I like that.
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His name is Peckham, but is attitude is “fuck ’em”.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
It’s a shellacking. 28-8 in shots and the only time the puck goes the other way is when Penner is on the ice.
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He’s switched lines now. He’s out with Brule and Cogliano. Pouliot is down with Zorg and Mr. Jones.
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maybe OTC is matching now?
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM MST up reply actions
Dubnyk and Gilbert
consecutive HUAs
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Should have traded Gilbert, that loser. I bet we couldn’t have even gotten a second for him.
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
Actually, watching the replay, he had zero puck support. It was 3 on 1 in the corner. HUA linemates.
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Watch the end zone replay. 13-78-67 – three centres – all in the middle of the ice. Oops.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:15 PM MST up reply actions
I did – noticed the same thing.
That wasn’t on Gilbert, even though he’ll get killed for it.
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too bad about that one, but three centers, no natural wingers, and a rookie defenceman all on the ice usually leads to epic failure. Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2010 Edmonton Oilers
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
Some of it is on Gilbert. When you don’t have passing options, eat the damn puck.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
Well, to be fair, Dubnyk put it in that shitty place to begin with
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That shitty place called “in play”?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
now we have two of them…er, well, we will tomorrow
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
the whole thing was a sequence of pain. No puck support and having Chorney as Gilbert’s partner isn’t going to make life easier
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by Stephen Sheps on Mar 3, 2010 8:15 PM MST up reply actions
Isn’t gang rape at least a 2-minute penalty? Jones got checked from behind into the boards to start it. Then Zorg got drilled by three different guys, including the linesman. Then Kopecky just slugged Arsen after the whistle. All that for coincidental minors? Not happy with the reffing there … does that make me a bad person?
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When I complained about hits and scrums away from the puck like that earlier in the season – you told me it was all part of the game. Should be interference I said. Part of the game you said.
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It is part of the game when both teams are doing it. When one team is just taking free shots it’s gonna get out of hand.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:27 PM MST up reply actions
It’s just because it was Stortini, huh?
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Actually the one that bugged me was Kopecky plowing Arsene. That’s textbook roughing.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
Where’s Covered in Oil when we need them?
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Motin
Buddy needs to realize that this isn’t ladies hockey – he can hit people in this league.
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Arsene is +2 in just 4:24.
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Which makes him +2 on his NHL career! An outscoring phenomenon!
by Benjamin Massey on Mar 3, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Click on the 1 and the 2 on the boards above the ice to see the graphical representation of the slaughter.
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Gilbert continuing to lead the charge in TOI at just under 20 Mins, Potulny is leading the charge at over 12. I really think the emergence of Potulny as a useful NHL player is one of the few good stories for Oilers all year. So they’ll let him walk this summer…
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Just the second goal of the year for Hjalmarsson, continuing the trend of shitty defenseman scoring at will on the Oilers.
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It’s almost sure to be a winner, then. See also: Greene, O’Donnell, Witt …
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
Hossa is awesome on the backcheck.
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What a great shift by Gagner on the 4 on 4. All over the place and didn’t cough it up for 30 seconds.
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Jones draws another one. He’s the anti-Moreau!
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I’m liking 28 & 46 together. The new GlenX?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 3, 2010 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
Beauty shoot-in by Zorg to himself. He can’t skate but he seems to win a lot of races to those dump-ins for some reason. Esp. against Swedish defencemen.
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I like how Dubnyk is covering the corners tonight. Now if only he could handle those pesky shots right in the middle of the net …
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