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Oilers v. Predators - Proverbs 19:7-10

Edmonton Oilers at Nashville Predators, Mar 2, 2010 6:00 PM MST


Russian defenders are shunned by their countrymen - some NHL teams are even more eager to be rid of them!  Even when he likes the team and city, these teams would let him go for nothing.

He who acts with wisdom loves himself and those that depend on him; he who appreciates understanding prospers.

A liar never goes unpunished; he who tells lies should be terminated.

Leadership is not fit for a fool.  It is a disgrace when a fool is the leader of mighty men.

 

Edmonton Oilers (19-36-6) @ Nashville Predators (33-23-5)

Bridgestone Arena, 6:00 P.M. MST
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

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Visiting Team Scouting Report: Since the last time these two teams met the Predators have gone 6-7-2, a record that was really brought them back to the pack in the Western Conference.  If they're going to make the playoffs, they'll need to be better than a .500 hockey team.  There are quite a few teams still in the mix so no one can really afford to be worse than .500.  Which is why I've included Colorado in the group.  Call me stubborn, but I still don't believe.  At any rate, I thought it might be fun to handicap the schedule for the Western Conference bubble teams going forward.  First up, which team has the most "gimme games" against bad teams?  To do this you need to first decide which are the bad teams and I went with Edmonton, Columbus, Florida, Long Island, Toronto and Carolina.  If you hope to make the playoffs in the West, these are games you should win:

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Good news for Detroit and Minnesota, bad news for Calgary and Dallas.  Since I've been trained from birth to hate Calgary and from experience to hate Dallas, this is great news!  The Predators are right in the middle, not really benefiting from a lot of games against bad teams nor being hurt by only having one.  Next up, how many games do these clubs have against the powerhouse clubs, which I've defined as San Jose, Washington and Chicago:

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So far, this is going great!  Dallas, Calgary and Colorado (in that order each time) have the fewest games against easy teams and the most games against good teams.  I'm feeling great about their playoff chances right now!  Flames for ninth!  Oh, and Nashville does well here.  They've already played most of their games against the very best teams in the league, and that should help them going forward.  The last thing I wanted to look at is how many games these teams have at home and on the road:

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And once again Calgary comes up near the bottom.  Too bad :)  The teams on top here, Detroit, Anaheim and Nashville, probably have the best schedules overall coming home after this extended break.  Now, Colorado does have a nine-point lead on the Ducks so it would take a pretty brutal collapse for them to lose all that ground and their schedule isn't really that bad.  Thus, it will probably end up being Detroit, Anaheim and Nashville fighting over two spots in the playoff picture with Colorado holding on for dear life as the end of the season approaches.  Since Nashville and Detroit have the head start, it's tough not to go with them for those last two spots.  So that's my prediction for today.  The current top eight are the top eight to end the regular season with Anaheim giving the biggest push and maybe ousting the Avalanche should they completely fall apart down the stretch.

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (19-36-6):

Penner - Injured Ankle - Nilsson
Moreau - Horcoff - Comrie
O'Sullivan - Potulny - Pisani

Cogliano - Brule - Pouliot

Golden Boy - Visnovsky (is actually the best pairing)

Strudwick - Gilbert (and it gets worse)
Peckham - Staios


Backsides

 

Nahville Predators (33-23-5)

Erat - Legwand - Ward
Hornqvist - Arnott - Sullivan
Jones - Goc - Dumont
Ashlyn - Crystal - Denise

Weber - Suter
Hamhuis - Klein
Bouillon - Grebeshkov

Rinne

 

Behind the Numbers:

  • Denise lists her hobbies as collecting wrestling action figures and playing World of Warcraft. Her favourite hockey player is... wait for it... Wade Belak.  That's right folks, Wade Belak.  Wade Belak, who was last seen scoring a goal in the 2007-08 season when he was with the Toronto Maple Leafs and who has averaged under five minutes per game in his 74 career games as a Predator.  Inspired by George Costanza she lists her profession as "marine biologist."  I'm pretty sure Denise is not a real person.
  • Jason Arnott has been a plus player (in terms of traditional +/-) for each of the last eleven seasons.  The last time he was a minus was the last season in which he played games for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • So far this season the Oilers have gone to overtime in every game that was played on the first Tuesday of the month.  They'll be putting this unbeaten-in-regulation streak (1-0-1) on the line tonight against the Predators.
  • At 21 years of age Denis Grebeshkov played a full season in the AHL.  He played in 75 games scoring four goals and forty-four assists for forty-nine points to go with a +21 rating.  Taylor Chorney also played a full AHL season at age 21.  he played in 68 games scoring five goals and sixteen assits for twenty-one points to go with a -29 rating.  Denis Grebeshkov needed to grow as a player to handle the NHL.  I'm sure Chorney will be fine.  I mean, he had more goals in this comparison!  And hockey is all about goals!  Ergo, Chorney is the better man.  I'm sure glad we sent Grebeshkov to Nashville to make room for this budding superstar.
  • The Oiler record for worst +/- in a single season is now a shared record. Joffrey Lupul's -29 in 2006-07 has been equaled by Shawn Horcoff this season.  I daresay it's about to be passed.  More bleeding has taken place with Horcoff on the ice than any other Oiler ever.  I'm not about to put all of the responsibility on Horcoff (context, percentages, Jacques-effect and on and on) but it says something about this team. 

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Outstanding work, good sir. Just outstanding.

A posse ad esse.

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by Jonathan Willis on Mar 2, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

Scott, this may be my favorite entry you’ve ever done. This ranks up there with the Ovechkin one from last year.

Just amazing.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:06 PM MST reply actions  

The links for Crystal and Denise point to the same spot.

Er, not that I was looking or anything.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 6:15 PM MST reply actions  

I fixed it. Oggle away.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:19 PM MST up reply actions  

There’s no damned way that an ice girl’s favorite vacation spot is Denmark and her favorite pastime is WOW.

The web guy wrote that crap.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

She also lists Kazaam and Gigli as two of her favourite movies and claims to be a Deceptacon [sic]. It’s fake, and I won’t believe otherwise until she shows up at my apartment in person to validate it. Wearing that outfit.

by MattM on Mar 2, 2010 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

At 21 years of age Denis Grebeshkov played a full season in the AHL. He played in 75 games scoring four goals and forty-four assists for forty-nine points to go with a +21 rating. Taylor Chorney also played a full AHL season at age 21. he played in 68 games scoring five goals and sixteen assits for twenty-one points to go with a -29 rating.

But Chorney isn’t bolting for the KHL! That’s the current spin, right now, yes?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:24 PM MST reply actions  

You don’t know that! Other NA pros have bolted to the KHL as well! Taylor Chorney is the next Duvie Westcott! (If we’re lucky)

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:29 PM MST up reply actions  

So, I can’t find a web feed for this dog. Should I be happy or sad?

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 6:28 PM MST reply actions  

Well, I’d be sad… but should I be… that’s a different question.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I find myself rooting for Nashville a litlte.

Weird.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Well I don’t want the Flames to make the playoffs. And the Leafs are getting slaughtered again so we really can’t afford the points. Also, Carolina has been coming strong. It would be hilarious if they made the playoffs. After tonight they’re likely to be 8 points out.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Grebs with his first + as a Pred. Way to go Grebs!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:29 PM MST reply actions  

You guys are a lot calmer than I would be if a Preds player got a point against the us in their first game.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 2, 2010 6:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, it’s in our long-term interest to lose games and I sincerely hope Grebeshkov succeeds in Nashville.

Also. Grebeshkov!!!!! (!)

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, it’s in our long-term interest to lose games

I think maybe three seasons of lottery picks would get Tambellini fired.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

They can’t just be lottery picks. They need to be abject failure so bad that it can’t possibly look like there’s hope. If we lose every single game from here on in, I think there’s a chance.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa, let’s not rush in here. We need time to evaluate the team first.

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 6:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you see the “assets” quote by Tambellini?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m surprised it was Grebs for a 2nd. I mean, that’s one for one. You’d think Poile could have fooled him into a 5th, 6th and 7th for Grebeshkov. Three for one!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

And an assist at that. Huh.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:31 PM MST up reply actions  

and a goal for Grebeshkov.

I feel bad for you guys.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 2, 2010 6:36 PM MST reply actions  

It was a great trade. You know they weren’t going to qualify him because he’s soft and was going to Russia. Or something like that.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I almost can’t believe they weren’t going to qualify him. That’s just so stupid. Or at least, it’s stupid assuming you can either move Souray by trade or – as Katz has stated publicly that they are – you’re willing to bury guys in the minors.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah the “cap space” narrative is a red herring. Pisani + Comrie + Staios, Moreau and Nilsson buried in the minors is $10,450,000 in cap space.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s actually 12.45 million, Derek; I didn’t put Moreau in teh minors in the scenario I outlined.

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by Jonathan Willis on Mar 2, 2010 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s the most pleasant Oilers-related item I’ve heard in months.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Grebeshkov suddenly realizes why they always lose. “Man, this goalie sucks!”

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 6:37 PM MST reply actions  

Joel Ward

Why can’t the Oilers have nice things like that?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:37 PM MST reply actions  

Denis Grebeshkov, apparently, with the delighted attitude of a man realizing he can play against the Oilers.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 6:37 PM MST reply actions  

THIS is a backside shoving upping.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

That #37 kid for Nashville looks pretty good. Think they’d give him up for a second-round pick?

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 6:44 PM MST reply actions  

Good lord no! He’s only 26, an Olympian, and he’s only making $3.1 million AND he’s RFA!

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 6:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Any general manager who’d trade a player like that for a late second-rounder would have to be legally incapable of fending for himself!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Is Mike Milbury his caretaker then?

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

“Say, Denis, do you own the Oilers?” “Oooownz. Ooooooownz.”

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

God bless Denis Grebeshkov. I’m hopin for a five point night fingers crossed

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by Jonathan Willis on Mar 2, 2010 6:50 PM MST reply actions  

I can’t cheer for the Oilers to lose. It’s not in my blood. I don’t think brazen incompetence is enough to get Tambellini fired, anyway; he’d probably have to sleep with Katz or Laforge’s daughter, preferably both at the same time.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 6:59 PM MST reply actions  

Good for you.

Yet, at the same time, how sad for you.

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by Jonathan Willis on Mar 2, 2010 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

At times like this, I remind myself that I’m also a Canadian soccer fan.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

The Oilers have become like the military. I support the troops (except for Moreau), but not the men that send them to battle.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:09 PM MST up reply actions  

On the run to watch the rest of the game with a fellow masochist Oilers fan.

Had to laugh when Grebs lit the lamp to give Nashville the lead.

I sure hope Peckham is tough cuz with Souray, Smid, and JFJ on LTIR and Stortini in the PB FFS, this may be the softest line-up I’ve ever seen.

Enjoy the game, everyone.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 2, 2010 7:00 PM MST reply actions  

Deslauriers with his HUA with the puck.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:12 PM MST reply actions  

What do you think goes through Deslauriers’ head as he goes to play the puck?

“ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!”

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:13 PM MST up reply actions  

That was a nice shift from Nilsson. He really hustled to be first to the puck and the sequence ended in a PP opportunity for the Oilers.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 7:13 PM MST reply actions  

I still like him more than any of the non-Gagner midgets.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Theo Peckham’s first career go… oh.. nevermind. Well, first career point! Peckham’s first career point!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 7:17 PM MST reply actions  

Already on Chorney’s heels

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Peckham’s PPG is the best of those two. Woo!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Weber has such a powerful shot. I was surprised Pisani gave him so much room up top. Souray rarely gets that much space.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 7:28 PM MST reply actions  

The Oilers aren’t the guys defending Souray.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

3rd fastest shot in NHL history!

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 2, 2010 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I know I mention it all the time, but I really hate that Deslauriers is constantly dropping his stick to pick up the puck. Just use your glove!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 7:31 PM MST reply actions  

I know I mention it all the time, but I really hate that Deslauriers is constantly

I stoppped reading and just filled in a bunch of my own.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:36 PM MST up reply actions  

“out of position”
“hesitant”
“slow”
“handling the puck”
“in an Oilers jersey”
“on the roster”
“playing in the NHL”
“healthy”
“screening his phone calls”
“sucking”
“blowing” (which ironically means the same thing as sucking)
“French”
“covering the top corner like a 6’4” midget"
“resistant to voodoo dolls”

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

“giving up short side goals”

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

In a more serious reply, I’m pretty sure I yell at the TV every single time he does that. Drives me nuts.

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Steady play by Strudwick. Well done buddy.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 7:59 PM MST reply actions  

What age do hockey players begin learning “keep your stick on the ice” ?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

What year did the Red Green Show start?

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 8:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Apparently after Strudwick was out of pee wee.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Is this a Brule – Pouliot – Cogliano line?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:01 PM MST reply actions  

You bet it is. They were inspired by Team Canada playing all those centers together.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, considering neither Brule nor Cogliano are good centers or good wingers, I don’t think it matters.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the guy with the huge grey beard sitting behind Barry Trotz. He’s like an aged version of Trotz.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:06 PM MST reply actions  

Grebeshkov takes out Pisani. Naturally. But… maybe Ben’s prayers have been answered! Oiler for life!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:13 PM MST reply actions  

Grebs! Nooooo! I loved you!

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 8:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I desperately wanted Deslauriers to sweep that puck into his net. We would have had the clip that summed up the season right there.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:14 PM MST reply actions  

Doesn’t Khabibulin’s gaffe against the Flames, then subsequent collapse next to the net with Souray grimacing sum up the season?

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I would… but it involves Khabibulin playing and him not playing is a pretty major story.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, but he ends up face down in the gutter.

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by Derek Zona on Mar 2, 2010 8:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Doesn’t Moreau know he’s supposed to be auditioning himself?

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

I guess house prices in Edmonton are down.

by Benjamin Massey on Mar 2, 2010 8:23 PM MST up reply actions  

He can rent his place out to Eberle, MPS, and Hall next year.

by edm_euler on Mar 2, 2010 8:26 PM MST up reply actions  

That penalty was a pretty game-decidingly terrible call but it’s hilarious that it’s Moreau.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:23 PM MST reply actions  

Losses are Wins! Still five points ahead/back of the Leafs!

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:27 PM MST reply actions  

Question to Grebeshkov:

“You’ve been a veteran of some playoff runs and some playoff wars, what do you think you can bring to this team?”

Awkward.

by Scott Reynolds on Mar 2, 2010 8:31 PM MST reply actions  

Lots of World and Olympic experience, but not so much playoffs.

Too funny that Grebs was first star tonight.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 2, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

... and the winner is ...
•The Oiler record for worst +/- in a single season is now a shared record. Joffrey Lupul’s -29 in 2006-07 has been equaled by Shawn Horcoff this season. I daresay it’s about to be passed.

Patrick O’Sullivan, the first Oiler in the history of the franchise to achieve the magic -30 mark. Congratulations Patrick!

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by Bruce McCurdy on Mar 2, 2010 9:33 PM MST reply actions  

That whole paragraph on Denise had me rolling. But, Crystal was actually my waitress at the Hooter’s in Nashville about two months ago, so I’m pretty sure she’s at least a hologram.

Good to see Grebby have a good first game with us and getting the first star.

In the interview afterwards, the…not so intelligent broadcaster, Mark Howard, asked him about his playoff runs…Yeaah…Um, Mark?

by JacksonOakes on Mar 2, 2010 11:25 PM MST reply actions  

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