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Penner Continues To Carry Edmonton

There have been rumblings of late that Dustin Penner is "back to his old self" in Edmonton.  Most of the backlash is from fans, looking for a scapegoat to blame for the losing streaks and scoring slump.  Words like "lazy", "disinterested", and "slow" are starting to creep back into the narrative.  There is even a welling up of support to "just play the kids."  Everything old is new again, eh?  However, Penner continues to lead the Oilers in scoring chances and chances differential (for qualifying players) and shots.  Why has the well dried up?

 

Star-divide

 

The chart below shows the leading scorer on all 30 NHL teams (even strength goals are the tie-breaker), the breakdown of their goals by ES and PP, and the percentage of goals that the leading scorer has accounted for thus far in 2009-2010.  Penner is 10th in total goal percentage in the NHL, trailing Alberta poster-boy Jarome Iginla by a fraction and leading newly-rich Rick Nash by a fraction.

 

Leading Scorer

ES

PP

Total

% of ES

% of PP

% of Total

Gaborik

21

13

35

20.59%

31.71%

23.33%

Stamkos

18

13

32

18.75%

29.55%

22.07%

Crosby

28

10

39

21.54%

26.32%

21.67%

Marleau

24

11

38

18.60%

21.57%

19.49%

Kovalchuk

21

10

31

17.95%

26.32%

18.45%

Ovechkin

32

10

42

20.38%

16.67%

18.26%

Parise

20

5

26

20.41%

13.51%

17.69%

Cammalleri

22

4

26

22.22%

8.89%

17.45%

Iginla

17

7

24

16.67%

20.59%

16.33%

Penner

17

6

23

17.17%

15.38%

16.31%

Nash

15

8

25

15.31%

18.60%

16.23%

Kopitar

16

10

27

13.68%

23.81%

15.70%

Ryan

17

8

25

15.04%

20.00%

15.43%

Moulson

18

3

21

18.18%

9.09%

15.00%

Hornqvist

15

8

23

13.51%

23.53%

14.84%

Neal

20

2

23

18.02%

4.65%

14.20%

Carter

14

8

23

13.46%

15.69%

14.02%

Sedin

21

3

25

17.65%

6.00%

13.81%

Sturm

15

2

18

16.30%

5.71%

13.64%

Weiss

13

7

20

12.75%

20.00%

13.61%

Jokinen

13

7

20

13.00%

17.50%

13.16%

Kessel

15

6

21

12.61%

15.79%

13.04%

Kane

16

6

22

12.31%

15.00%

12.22%

Vrbata

14

5

19

12.28%

13.51%

12.18%

Fisher

12

7

19

10.34%

23.33%

11.88%

McDonald

12

5

17

11.65%

13.89%

11.56%

Vanek

9

8

17

8.33%

19.51%

10.97%

Zetterberg

13

3

16

13.40%

7.69%

10.96%

Stewart

16

2

18

14.29%

4.88%

10.78%

Miettinen

12

4

16

10.71%

10.26%

10.19%

 

To show just how bleak the rest of the roster is, Sam Gagner, the team's second-leading goal-scorer, has 14 goals.  That's second-worst in the league for a second-leading goal-scorer, "trailing" only Boston's Blake Wheeler.  The percentage dropoff from Penner to Gagner is 39.13%, 4th highest in the league.  The three men above Penner on the corresponding list are Marian Gaborik, Sidney Crosby and Ilya Kovalchuk and the latter's 31 goals are the lowest total among that group.

 

2nd leading Scorer

Total

% Dropoff

Callahan

15

57.14%

Malkin

20

48.72%

Afinogenov

18

41.94%

Gagner

14

39.13%

Gionta

16

38.46%

Semin

26

38.10%

Zajac

17

34.62%

Malone

21

34.38%

Smyth

18

33.33%

Wheeler

13

27.78%

Bourque

18

25.00%

Umberger

19

24.00%

Erat

18

21.74%

Tavares

17

19.05%

Perry 

21

16.00%

Heatley

32

15.79%

Horton

17

15.00%

Toews

19

13.64%

Perron

15

11.76%

Pominille

15

11.76%

Bertuzzi

15

6.25%

Upshall

18

5.26%

Hagman

20

4.76%

Eriksson

22

4.35%

Burrows

25

0.00%

Duchene

18

0.00%

Richards

23

0.00%

Staal

20

0.00%

Koivu

16

0.00%

Michalek

19

0.00%

The lesson, as it has been for the last three years in Edmonton, is that real NHL players are needed to score goals. Counting on one guy to lug AHL'ers and replacement players up and down the ice doesn't work and is the primary contributor to Penner's recent slump.

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The information presented after the jump is cool and interesting but I’m not really sure how it connects to the criticisms people (including head coach Pat Quinn) have been making of Penner. The criticism of Penner’s isn’t a) suggesting that he hasn’t been the Oilers’ best forward this season, or b) that he’s looked “lazy” and “disinterested” all year. The criticism is pointing instead to his play over the last 26 games (roughly, from the end of the road winning streak until today). In those 26 games Penner has scored 5 goals out of the Oilers’ total of 47, or 10.6% of the total, a pretty substantial decrease from earlier this season.

That said, I agree with you that Penner is not the problem and that he hasn’t been poor over most of that 26-game period (some bad but more good, much like earlier this year). I’m just not sure how the numbers you’ve presented make that case.

What I do think makes the case are his percentages which have taken a surprisingly wild swing:

First 32 Games:
Personal 5v5 Sh% 17.8%
On Ice 5v5 Sh% 13.2%
On Ice 5v5 Sv% .936
On Ice 5v5 Goal Differential +16

Last 26 Games:
Personal EV Sh% 9.3%
On Ice EV Sh% 3.9%
On Ice EV Sv% .888
On Ice 5v5 Goal Differential -10

People are seeing way more pucks go in the net at the wrong end of the rink than what took place before and have concluded that Penner is “back to his old ways” when really, not much has changed for him personally. He was riding unsustainable percentages and getting all the credit for them and now he’s doing the same thing on the low end and taking all the blame. His Corsi percentage in the last 26 games is actually better than it was in the first 32 (.526 compared to .507). I’ve noticed a couple of bad games here and there but honestly, he looks like the same guy to me the last few weeks as he did in the first couple of months, that is, a slightly better version of Penner than we had last season.

by Scott Reynolds on Feb 9, 2010 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That 17% Sh% really is an unsustainable level for Penner. His career #‘s are around 12, so you had to expect some drop off. Taken as a whole, he’s hovering at 14.3% for the season, which is still a career best.

The Avalanche, clearly, are down with No PP.

by Mike @ MHH on Feb 10, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s also worth noting that the 17% number is at EV only. His career number (12%) includes power play (i.e. higher percentage) shots.

by Scott Reynolds on Feb 10, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he looks like the same guy to me the last few weeks as he did in the first couple of months, that is, a slightly better version of Penner than we had last season.

That’s pretty much what I get out of watching him as well.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would say he’s having fewer dominant games. There were a few games early on that Dustin took over in the third period (CBJ, @STL) and, especially, overtime (several times). There was just no stopping the guy some nights. Lately he has had a number of strong games — e.g. PHX, but the will to win is not even an asset in the Fall4Hall and Penner’s not stupid. Hell, a lot of our own fans don’t even want to win these days.

I think he would be an awesome playoff performer, but we may never find out at this rate. For sure with the playoffs having been absolutely beyond reach for weeks now has got to flag the motivation a little.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

"Never be ashamed of who you are" -- Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg

by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs


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Oilers Stats Leaders

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Forwards

Defense

TOI/G:

Horcoff (19:31)

Gilbert (21:50)

ESTOI/G:

Horcoff (14:40)

Grebeshkov (17:16)

Points:

Penner (48)

Visnovsky (32)

Goals:

Penner (24)

Visnovsky (10)

Assists:

Penner (24)

Visnovsky (22)

EV+/- /15

Penner (.122)

Smid (.090)

Shots:

Penner (169)

Visnovsky (78)

Corsi/15:

Penner(.675)

Visnovsky (.460)

SCF/15:

Penner (5.017)

Visnovsky (4.517)

SCA/15:

Stortini (3.954)

Gilbert (4.260)

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Penner (.581)

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