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It's no secret that Phoenix struggles with attendance. It's no secret that those struggles are related to the location of the arena as the Phoenix hinterlands aren't an attractive destination for night life.  What's more disturbing is that the location of the arena may end up being the biggest liability for this franchise, one that even a savvy management team won't be able to overcome.

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Not only does Phoenix struggle at the gate, but they are one of the worst television markets in the league, evidenced by the chart below:


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The Coyotes garnered a .5 rating last year, 15th of the 22 U.S.-based teams that reported television ratings for 2008-2009.  A deeper look into the market shows that a .5 rating meant that in the 22 games that were broadcast on Fox Sports Arizona, only 9,280 households were watching.  That puts Phoenix into 19th place out of 22 reporting teams, ahead of only Florida, Atlanta and Tampa Bay.  Combine the two numbers and Phoenix is the second-worst market in the U.S., ahead of only the Florida Panthers.

Phoenix management can't be faulted for lack of effort in improving things.  One of the driving factors in turning the attendance situation around in Pittsburgh was the Penguins student rush program.  The student rush program gave college students the opportunity to buy the best seat available on a first-come, first-serve basis for $20 at the gate.  The Pens had students lined up three hours before the game:

There usually aren't any provisions -- portable toilets, concessions, etc. -- for students in line for hours, but officials noticed piles of pizza boxes from those who used their cell phones to have deliveries made to Mario Lemieux Place.

That, and enthusiasm from players who have noticed the lines outside the arena and increased decibel level inside, sparked the idea for player appearances and pizza, said Penguins vice president of communications Tom McMillan.

The students were allowed access to the warm building about an hour earlier than the usual hour before game time.

The program has helped swell Penguins attendance. Going into last night, the team was averaging 94 percent capacity at home games. Last night, the Penguins enjoyed their 14th sell out in 23 dates.

Pittsburgh's program was a rousing success as there are 100,000 college students in Pittsburgh, and the majority of them were no more than a 15 minute bus ride away from the Arena.  Pittsburgh management pointed to the program as one of the driving factors behind the increase in season ticket sales -- college students graduated and immediately used their entertainment dollars on the team that gave them $20 tickets for years.

Phoenix has tried to implement the same program as seen below:

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Phoenix has gone as far as offering upper level seats for $10, an astonishing number to fans from Edmonton, Toronto, New York and Washington.  And although there are 55,000 students at Arizona State in nearby Tempe, the program has not been an overwhelming success as it was in Pittsburgh.  Why?  Well, for one, the arena is about a 30 minute drive from Arizona State, not something that is easy for a college student to pull off.  For reference purposes, it's about the same drive from Rexall Place to the Edmonton International Airport.  The Coyotes have tried a shuttle service with a pickup point on the Arizona State campus, but with mixed success.  There is still the issue with a 30 minute bus ride to get to a game followed by the 30 minute bus ride back home.  There is hope that the completion of light rail service to Glendale in 2011 will help fans get to the games.

The Coyotes have tried family pack tickets, they've tried all you can eat weekday tickets ($30 for upper deck all you can eat seats) and they continue to struggle at the gate.  The team has been in a playoff spot for the entire year and the arena still isn't filling.  Credit must be given to the Coyotes for creative marketing campaigns, but the fact remains that the arena is not in Phoenix, but literally in another city.

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http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=516226 forgot to mention that THIS season numbers on tv are 50% better.

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by Travis Hair on Feb 8, 2010 3:18 PM MST reply actions  

50% better than crap is still crap, though not to be sniffed at per se. The thing is, I think you need more than just a few months to turn around a sad situation, especially given the arena’s problematic location. Besides, I’m sure some are remembering that they did this dance last year, and wound up tanking after the break. Shouldn’t happen this year with an extra year of experience and a better coach, but at the same time, I can understand Phoenicians being cautious in their optimism.

Then again, it bears pointing out, is this Shit On Your Opponent’s Attendance Month or something? This is three or four posts in the last couple of weeks on someone’s crappy gate receipts.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, I was shitting on the arena’s location. Considering that it’s in another city, that might actually be a GOOD number.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Tom-ay-to, tom-ah-to. Still a bit of a recurring theme. You got attendance numbers on all the Oilers’ remaining opponents, waiting for the appropriate point in the schedule? Which fanbase is next to feel the Wrath of Zona? ;)

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Vancouver, but for a completely different reason.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Because they’re douchebags, you mean?

I’d suggest they’d actually be doing us a favour by laser-pointering our goalie.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

…So they are up to 14,000 households per game. Which pulls them into line with Columbus, a market that is 33% smaller.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I couldn't imagine only paying 10 bucks for a ticket.

Tickets here are 50 bucks for nosebleeds in the middle of the week against teams like Columbus.
Games against Toronto and Calgary are ridiculously expensive.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 8, 2010 3:19 PM MST reply actions  

Or $30 for AYCE seats.

Next up, AYCD seats!

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

AYCE? AYCD?

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 8, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

All you can eat
All you can drink

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

ahhhh.

Damn Sun Belt teams with their affordable tickets.

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by Chuckles Canuckles on Feb 8, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d only want an All You Can Eat seat if it was made out of chocolate.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 8, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Or pizza.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2010 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Or apple pie ala mode.

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by Baroque on Feb 8, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

How do you drive?

I’d like to be riding with you if you can make it from Rexall to the Airport in 30 mins.

by RyanCW on Feb 8, 2010 5:37 PM MST reply actions  

Like a bat out of hell, actually. :)

The point was, it’s a long damn way.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

The Coyotes have tried a shuttle service with a pickup point on the Arizona State campus, but with mixed success. There is still the issue with a 30 minute bus ride to get to a game followed by the 30 minute bus ride back home.

I could see that being a liability challenge, yeah, 30 minutes on a bus for a college student after a night of imbibing. You can’t really dust for vomit.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2010 7:58 PM MST reply actions  

Regardless of alcohol content, college kids aren’t going to spend an hour a day on a bus, $10 tickets or not.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2010 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

The Cardinals don’t seem to have that problem. I know there are a few other factors at play there, but maybe attendance is poor because nobody cares about hockey there. Looking at those numbers, almost all of the southern teams are struggling with attendance, with only San Jose and Anaheim, and to a lesser extent, Dallas and Colorado, being the exceptions. Buffalo is the smallest market on that list and it absolutely kills every southern market in average attendance and viewership. And it’s not like the Sabres are the only game in town either, though admittedly the pickins are slim after the Bills season ends. Would the team do better in downtown Phoenix? Maybe, but I don’t recall them setting attendance records in the building they shared with the Suns either.

by despisethesun on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

The Cardinals actually have a recent history of success, though. They’ve been .500 or better each of the last three seasons and made the Super Bowl in ‘08. The Coyotes haven’t made the playoffs since 2002 and haven’t won a series since they were the 1987 Winnipeg Jets.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 9, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I think the lack of on-ice success is only half the story though. Carolina won the Cup (and played for it once more on top of that) and still struggles to fill seats. Nashville made the playoffs every year from 2003 to 2008 and their average attendance was only marginally better than Phoenix last year. Those cities have had success on the ice and they don’t have the location problems the Coyotes do. Contrast that with a team like the Wild, who, even through their ups and downs, have fairly solid fan support, and like Phoenix, they also have to compete with the NBA, the NFL, and MLB. Or what about the Rangers. Or the Flyers, who are admittedly good more often than not, but even in their worst season they still averaged almost 20,000 people per game. And I hate to bring in Canadians, but Ottawa fans put up with a lot of mediocrity and still showed up, and Canucks fans have almost had nothing but mediocrity until recently. And while we’re at it, isn’t this an Oilers blog? Attendance has dipped a bit lately, but there were still a fair amount of asses in seats when I was at the Canes/Oilers game (admittedly a lot of those showed up late though), and this team has been mediocre at best since at least 1992. If the Coyotes were successful, it MIGHT alleviate their attendance issues in the short term, but I suspect that wouldn’t last through the next rough patch in any team’s usual good-shitty-good cycle. I’m not saying it’s impossible for the Coyotes to be successful, but god damn, if Phoenix was going to start selling out NHL games, it would have happened by now. And no, not just when Detroit comes through town.

by despisethesun on Feb 9, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

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