Day Three (Seven): The Beatings Will Continue
Consider this the open Olympic thread. Want to leave some thoughts about a Canadian gold silver medal winner? This is the place. Marianne St-Gelais! Short-track speed skating is often really exciting but yesterday's final didn't have much suspense. The Chinese racer took a huge lead after 50 meters and was never challenged the rest of the way. A bit further down the track Marianne St-Gelais managed to hold off the Italian skater (who never once made an attempt to pass) for the silver medal. Further back still was Jessica Gregg (daughter of Randy) who finished a heart-breaking fourth of four in the final. She got off to a slow start and wasn't able to catch up. The Olympics are a funny thing in these sports that don't have a two-person final. Gold is still clearly the priority but second is still something to celebrate with vim. Fourth? Heartbreaking. A finish of second earned St-Gelais an impossibly huge smile and a victory lap with the Canadian flag. If Gregg had managed third she probably would have felt able to join her teammate for the slow skate to tonnes of cheers. But fourth? The cameras gave only one brief look at Gregg after the race - mostly by accident it seemed - but the disappointment on her face was just as clear. Perhaps my attention falls to the Edmontonian in foruth because the race took place on Ash Wednesday and I have suffering and remembrance top of mind. I suggest that we try to remember the only racer who wouldn't come back to the ice for flowers, the only racer who won't be at BC Place today to accept a medal, the only one who will be forgotten. Four racers started on Wednesday night and after 45-seconds one disappeared completely. And so, even as we celebrate with Marianne St-Gelais, we really ought to choose to remember Gregg, thank her for her efforts and her performance. She did us fellow Edmontonians proud.
And now back to hockey! Yesterday was a banner day only for the Germans and Czechs. The Germans didn't win but looked very competitive against a superior Swedish squad. They lost the game 2-0 but were very close in shots (25-21 Sweden) and they likely outshot the Swedes at even strength. The Swedish PP was dominant while the German PP was poor and there were certainly indicators that the Swedes were the better club but the Germans looked much better in defeat than the Swiss, Latvians, Norwegians or Belarussians and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them in the quarterfinals.
And as for those Belarussians, they were just destroyed by the Finns. Through two periods Belarus had one goal on four shots and the Finns led 3-1 despite a dominant performance. The 5-1 final score was closer than it looked as the Belarussians clogged the front of the net at every opportunity hoping the puck would hit something and stay out. It's a nice win for Finland, but they were likely hoping for something a bit better than a +4 differential.
The third game from last night saw Jaromir Jagr make a triumphant return to North American ice. A goal, an assist and plenty of Jagr using his body to control the puck in the offensive zone as he looked for teammates to pass to. The Czechs won the game 3-1 thanks in part to Jagr but also to Tomas Vokoun who only let one goal sneak past the entire game.
The Slovaks face the Russians tonight in the second half of back-to-back games. The only teams in the tournament forced to play on back-to-back nights? The Slovaks, the Germans, the Belarussians and the Latvians. The schedule-maker just wanted to make things extra hard on the teams that can least afford it I suppose. A big win for Russia tonight will keep them within striking distance of first overall, depending of course on what the Canadians do against Switzerland in the afternoon. I'm sure the Canadians would love to put up a big number on the board against the Swiss but in Torino the Canadians lost to the Swiss in the round-robin so I'm just hoping for a regulation win of any stripe tonight. Finally, the Americans will take on Norway this afternoon. The Americans are a very physical team and could end up really taking it to this Norwegian squad. They play the game fast and hard which many of the Norwegians won't be able to handle If the Americans put up a +7 or +8 in this one, a win over Canada in the last game of the Group stage could make them the surprise #1 seed.
Schedule:
United States v. Norway 1:00 p.m MST
Canada v. Switzerland 5:30 p.m. MST
Slovakia v. Russia 10:00 p.m. MST
Overall Standings:
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Jessica Gregg did her family, her city, and her country proud by making the Olympic final in her very first attempt. A wonderful performance. Pretty clear she learned something from both of her athlete-parents, getting her speed from her mom :) and her ability to take a big hit in the corner and get right back up for more from dad.
While we’re at it, a hat tip to Jamie Gregg, who also performed well in the long-track version of the 500m, finishing 8th on the planet. He too got his sprinting speed from mom and his ability to perform at an elite level and be completely ignored by the media from dad. You would never know from the coverage that Gregg (0% of media attention) actually was top Canadian ahead of Jeremy Wotherspoon (100% of same). I don’t mind giving Wotherspoon his due, but not at the exclusion of the other athletes. That was lame.
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Props for these daily updates, Scott. I really like your combined standings which are like seeing the NHL conference rather than division standings; ultimately the big picture carries the playoff implications.
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Every day there’s a new hero, and today’s is Anja Paerson, last seen being launched into low Earth orbit from the diabolical up ramp that was built into the very bottom of the course for yesterday’s women’s downhill. Not only did Paerson live to fight another day, but fought the very next day, when she again tackled the downhill course in the first leg of today’s alpine super combined event. She made it all the way down, no doubt a little uptight, but ultimately upright.
All of these ladies and gents who fly down these mountains by various conveyances built for speed over comfort wear a badge of courage, but Anja’s shines brightest today in my eyes.
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Anja just won the bronze medal in the event to tie the record for most Olympic medals for a women’s skiier (6). Too bad that the American who led after the downhill fell in the slalom to seal it but that’s an amazing comeback performance. She now has a bronze medal to go along with her almost sure crash-of-the-Games gold.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 18, 2010 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
My hat is off to her. Anja Paerson and Petra Majdik — the Slovenian cross-country sprinter who took a horrendous crash off the course and got up to run three sprints — may both have won “just” bronze medals, but their feats of both athleticism and courage have already stamped themselves among the highlights of these Games.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 18, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
Was she the one they had to airlift out after she flew into the chicken wire at highway speeds? Or was she the one that fell backwards then went head over heels into a flag? Or was that the same crash? Either way…damn. We mythologize the toughness of hockey players, but I have to take my hat off to everyone who got back into the Olympics after something like that.
Incidentally, they were saying today that the course organizers did some shaving on the downhill to reduce the air time and make things a little slower/safer. Seemed like it turned out, for the most part.
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It was the second one you described. Huge air and then into the flag.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 18, 2010 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
She was the one where the announcers said “looks like the women ski jumpers made the Olympics after all!”
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 18, 2010 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
The Americans are up 3-1 after two periods. They were completely dominating in the first but gave up some good chances. In the second they were a little less dominant and one of those chances against found the back of the net.
Also, apparently the mythological Norwegian goalie was pulled because of cramps in the game against Canada.
Tough finish for the Norwegians. Three goals in the last five minutes to end up with a 6-1 loss. They had one real good chance to make it 3-2 earlier in the period but didn’t cash and the Americans again looked dominant through the rest of the period. Those American defenders do make quite a few mistakes though. I think they’ll have some problems against Canada and the other top teams going forward.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 18, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
I thought that Norway played a terrific game, at least in the parts I saw. Not quite as good as the Swiss, obviously, but they hung in there pretty good in a very high-tempo, extremely physical game. I saw this game real good. USA are no fun to play against at all.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 18, 2010 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
Christine Nesbitt with gold in the speed skating! Woo! Kristina Groves took 4th place with a really good showing. She missed the gold by 0.22 and ended without getting a medal at all. That’s got to be hard to take but she already won a bronze in the 3000m and is apparently better in some of the other (longer) remaining events. But, yeah… Congratulations to Christine Nesbitt!
I was hopeful for a fleeting moment we’d wind up with two medals out of that event, but I’ll settle for the gold. What a skate by Nesbitt.
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Awesome. I guess she got her .02 worth.
Nice to win a gold in a real traditional sport.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 18, 2010 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
Not a fan of moguls?
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I’m actually a fan of virtually all the winter sports. Some of the summer “games” leave me cold. My observation of non-traditional / emerging sports is that they tend not to be competitive across as many nations, and wherever that sport is “hot” tends to clean up the medals.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 PM MST up reply actions
The Russians are playing a pretty physical game with Slovakia so far. There’s more physicality in this game than the Canada-Switzerland affair for sure. In some ways I like to dismiss the idea that teams need to “be more physical” in order to have success because I’m afraid that it will look like JFJ putting himself out of position to make a hit. But there really is no replacement for a strong physical forecheck that’s intent on pressuring the puck carrier and turning opposition possession into a puck battle.
1-0 Russians after two so the outcome is still very much in doubt. If the Slovaks can get this thing to OT, it would do the Canadians a world of good.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 18, 2010 11:30 PM MST reply actions
1-1
Marian Hossa, midway in the third. Yeah!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 18, 2010 11:55 PM MST up reply actions
But now the Slovaks go short-handed. Let’s go Slovaks! Come on Halak!
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 18, 2010 11:59 PM MST up reply actions
Skin o’ their teeth, but they killed it.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:00 AM MST up reply actions
That last Semin shot had me looking skyward.
Ferraro’s description of the Russian change was pretty good. They sure didn’t pull any punches.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
I love Ferraro. Once in awhile I disagree with him, but he sure let’s you know where he stands. I don’t get a sense of any agenda either, he’ll praise or criticize anybody. Just like me. :)
“This puck is bouncing like a tennis ball on a rock pile.”
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:05 AM MST up reply actions
I loved that analogy, and he’s right about it too.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:07 AM MST up reply actions
Nice puck retrieval / coverage by Grebs there…
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:08 AM MST up reply actions
Grebs looks terrific with a decent team.
Did you hear what they said about him earlier? Four time world champion, two World Juniors which I’d semi-forgotten and the last two world seniors which I most certainly haven’t. He was captain of their ’03 WJHC team.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:10 AM MST up reply actions
I was being sarcastic with that one. Grebs did neither and Gaborik had a close-in chance from Palffy. But yeah, Grebs does generally look better with the Russian national team.
Also, OVERTIME!!! Thank you Slovakia!
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:13 AM MST up reply actions
Oh was that Grebs? I was watching the blue shirts that time.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:14 AM MST up reply actions
Well, he and his partner. They seemed confused.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:17 AM MST up reply actions
Terrific netminding in this one.
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You bet. Just a terrific game overall. Both teams are going very hard.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:22 AM MST up reply actions
They may be Russians and Slovaks but they’re Finnishing their Czechs. Swede!
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Thanks Gene. Seriously. Send it to him.
Who have you really liked tonight? I’ve really liked Hossa. The goal of course but he’s been great at both ends all game.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:25 AM MST up reply actions
(Marian) Hossa totally impresses me as a two-way player. Saw him live last month and watched the rest of that Hawks road trip into Canada on the tube and the guy just hounds the puck no matter which way it’s going. Just a terrific player.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:27 AM MST up reply actions
Sorry, it’s late.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:25 AM MST up reply actions
Did they do a coin toss for the Canada game? I didn’t notice that. Weird.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:27 AM MST reply actions
You’d think they could spring for a lucky loonie.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:30 AM MST up reply actions
I read about a lucky loonie in an earlier event. I forget what it was. Speed skating or skiing or something. It’s such a hokey tradition. I expect Ryan Smyth is attending the game working with the ice crew so that he can make sure a loonie is buried at center ice in the event Canada plays for gold.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:40 AM MST up reply actions
Snowboarding. It was cute the first time … let it go.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:42 AM MST up reply actions
Except for the coin toss, that is. Did they really use a penny??
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 12:44 AM MST up reply actions
Stumpel!
And Ferraro’s recall on that was impressive.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:29 AM MST reply actions
Man, Ferraro is no fooling with these descriptions.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:31 AM MST up reply actions
NO!vechkin
Come on Halak! We need a save on Datsyuk!
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:32 AM MST reply actions
Strange choices by both coaches.
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I’m just going to assume that Handzus is… good at it?
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:35 AM MST up reply actions
Pleased Demitra!
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And the crucifix celebration! Hahahaha! Yes!
Okay, Russians, don’t get discouraged. Go beat the Czechs.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2010 12:38 AM MST up reply actions
“First upset of the Games”? I’d call the Swiss getting a point from Canada a pretty major upset, even if it was a “loss”
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And is Slovakia beating the Russians in a coin-toss that much of an upset? Really?
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Getting to the coin toss was the upset. Winning it was a coin toss.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
Again. Was it really? I mean, Slovakia isn’t as good as Russia on paper, but it’s not like Edmonton beats Dallas in 1997 or anything.
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Population of Russia = 141,800,000
Population of Slovakia = 5,400,000
I call it an upset.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 19, 2010 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
What’s the population of Finland?
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So by that logic, Germany should be a massive favorite over Sweden and Finland?
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That China-India game should be a doozy, though.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 20, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
China should roll right over Slovakia.
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Seriously, the better population count is # of registered hockey players which I couldn’t seem to find, but safe to say Russia >>>>>>>>>> Slovakia. To me it’s an upset just based on the strength of the teams. The Slovaks are older and have less depth, and the Russian stars are higher-powered than the Slovak stars. I expected the Slovaks to give them a decent game, but a win – or even a “win” – is an upset.
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