Oilers v. Hurricanes - Exodus 9:13-35
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 3:11 PM MST
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Then Yahweh said to Quinn, "Get up early in the morning, go to Katz and say to him, 'This is what Yahweh, the God of all Oiler fans and players, has to say: Let the management go, so that fans might have hope and worship me, or I will send plagues against you and your hockey team! Then you will know that there is no hockey fan like Yahweh, who cares passionately for his people! And know this: I could have foiled your attempt to buy this team like I did to Jim Balsillie, who is now forever on the outside looking in. But I did not. Instead, I brought you to rule over but my own chosen team (how much better than owning the Coyotes!) for this special purpose: to liberate my people from slavery to incompetence so that my name will be praised for generations! Yet you do not listen to me! Therefore, today I am sending the Hurricanes against you and they will be the team that causes this losing streak to tie a team record, worse than any losing streak since the day this team was established. You would be wise to immediately trade any players you do not want degraded after the game because the Hurricanes will not stop humiliating this team until the final buzzer sounds and this year's team - your team Mr. Katz - is established as the worst in Oiler history.'"
Some agents who heard about Quinn's speech started frantically demanding trades so that their clients would not be forced to endure this embarrassment but Tambellini kept on saying that he needed more time to assess, that making decisions is hard.
Then Yahweh told Quinn, "Fill out your lineup card and hand it over to the Hurricanes so that this moment of shame may begin." Shortly after Quinn handed it over the puck was dropped and Yahweh was with the Hurricanes. There were many goals. Ray Whitney, the Oiler castoff, scored a hat trick and Cam Ward, the Edmonton native, posted the shutout. It was the worst losing streak in Oiler history.
Then Katz called on Quinn and Renney. "I realize that I have done wrong," he said. "I should have known that Yahweh was right all along. I have endured enough humiliation, enough consecutive losses. I will let them go. Lowe and Tambellini will not stay any longer."
When Quinn heard this he spoke to Katz and said, "I will go into the dressing room and calm the players and shelter them from the media. I will also speak to Yahweh and ask him to make the post-game humiliation brief. And yet, I know that your heart is still not ready to follow Yahweh." Now Katz had asked this because all of the players were sullen, browbeaten by their own failure and they could not look any man in the eye.
So Quinn left Katz and went down into the dressing room. He spoke to the players and to the media, telling stories from days long ago and encouraging them. He watched as the Hurricanes left town, not to be seen again for at least another year. But when Katz saw that the Hurricanes were gone and that the players were starting to regain some confidence, he sinned yet again; he hardened his heart and refused to let Lowe and Tambellini go proving that Quinn was right when he said, "Your heart is still not ready to follow Yahweh."
Carolina Hurricanes (19-28-7) @ Edmonton Oilers (16-31-6)
Rexall Place, 7:30 P.M. MST
Television: PPV
More analysis after the jump...
Visiting Team Scouting Report: Before the year began I thought six teams in the Eastern Conference were well clear of the pack: Washington, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Boston, Philadelphia and Carolina. Now, there were some errors in there. Boston has come back more than I expected and I left out the New Jersey Devils who are clearly of some quality. Still, the biggest surprise to me has been the performance of the Carolina Hurricanes. So what's gone wrong?
Well, the first quarter of the season was a disaster. Since December the Hurricanes are actually 14-11-2 and they'd played at that pace all season they'd be in playoff position quite comfortably. Unfortunately for them, they were 5-17-5 in the months of October and November. So it's really a tale of two seasons. And each of those seasons have decidedly different traits in terms of the percentages at EV. Despite getting the better of the Corsi battle, both overall (1214-1062) and when the score was close (706-641) they were brutally outscored (64-38 overall and 33-16 with the score close) because of some terrible percentages: an .891 save percentage and 6.3 shooting percentage overall and a .906 save percentage and 4.6 shooting percentage with the score close. Injuries to Eric Staal and Cam Ward didn't help, but this team has really getting jobbed and I feel confident in saying that they were a better club than many of those ahead of them in the standings over this period. Over the last two months, the story is almost the exact opposite. They've actually lost the Corsi battle overall (1304-1097) and with the score close (670-586). Those numbers are ugly. But they've been helped by very strong percentages: .936 save percentage/9.0 shooting percentage overall and .923 save percentage/10.2 shooting percentage with score close. Over these games, they've been bailed out a bit by superior goaltending and finishing at EV. It's a strange team whose results have not (at all!) mirrored the underlying shooting numbers but have instead followed the percentages. Depending on how much you think variation in the percentages are "luck" (IMO, a good amount but far from "completely") the 2009-10 Carolina Hurricanes are a case study in how being lucky sometimes leads to (much!) better results than being good.
Expected Starting Lineups:
Carolina Hurricanes (19-28-7):
Whitney - Staal - Jokinen
Samsonov - Cullen - Kostopoulos
Tlusty - Sutter - Larose
Yelle - Brind'Amour - Dwyer
Ward - Pitkanen
Gleason - Wallin
Alberts - Carson
Ward
Edmonton Oilers (16-31-6):
Penner - Gagner - Nilsson
Moreau - Horcoff - Pisani
Comrie - Potulny - Brule
O'Sullivan - Cogliano - Stortini
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Chorney - Visnovsky
Strudwick - Plante
Deslauriers
Behind The Numbers:
- Worst Oiler teams ever leaderboard: The "Ryan Smyth Deathmarch" Oilers: 2-16-1 with an 11-game winless streak. The current "AHL Goaltending" Oilers: 1-18-2 with a 13-game winless streak. The "Shame Corson" Oilers: 1-18-3 with a 14-game winless streak. This. Is. It. A loss in regulation makes this the worst segment of games - in terms of results - in Oiler history. I believe!
- The Hurricanes are riding a four-game winning streak and have won five of their last six games. I think it would be hilarious if they came all the way back to make the playoffs in the East but they'd need to go 22-5-1 just to get to 90 points. But if the East just continues sucking and 85 points is enough they could get in with a record of 20-8-0 which is a tad bit more reasonable if the team was really good. They aren't... but I hope they make it anyway.
- Alex Plante makes his Oiler debut this evening after only 48 professional games in the AHL. This is a huge opportunity for him to show the Oilers that he belongs in an NHL role as early as next season. There is a good possibility some of the current defensive corps and that at least one job will be available to a young player, whether it be Chorney, Peckham or Plante. Both Chorney and Peckham have drowned at the NHL level so far, but the coach isn't doing Plante any favours giving him Jason Strudwick for a partner.
- The two teams in tonight's game have five of the six worst plus/minus numbers in the NHL. The Oilers are represented by Shawn Horcoff (-25), Patrick O'Sullivan (-24), Robert Nilsson (-20) and Sheldon Souray (-19). The Hurricanes lone representative is Rod Brind'Amour (-24).
- The Oilers penalty killling is getting dangerously close to falling into dead last. The Oilers have fallen to 73.9% while the Maple Leafs are currently sitting at 70.2%. In some ways, the Leafs problem is a little bit worse since they've taken 225 minor penalties compared to the Oilers 211. On the other hand, the Leafs now have two real goalies compared to the Oilers 0.
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The Oilers penalty killling is getting dangerously close to falling into dead last. The Oilers have fallen to 73.9% while the Maple Leafs are currently sitting at 70.2%. In some ways, the Leafs problem is a little bit worse since they’ve taken 225 minor penalties compared to the Oilers 211. On the other hand, the Leafs now have two real goalies compared to the Oilers 0.
Good thing Tambellini got rid of Kyle Brodziak!
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Dime a dozen
Brodziak, pfft. You can pick up guys like him all over the place. Totally replaceable, guys like him and Thoresen and Glencross and Reasoner and Hejda and Bergeron and Greene and Stoll and Torres.
Penalty killers and tough sledders and faceoff men and backup goaltenders. Dime a dozen. Any manager knows you can fill those slots with quality for little money if you have any sense…..
Wait a second!
Pat,
I would laugh if I wasn’t crying.
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This is a huge opportunity for him to show the Oilers that he belongs in an NHL role as early as next season.
I would love nothing more than that, but that would also say some scary things about all of Theo Peckham, Taylor Chorney, Dean Arsene, and Johan Motin, who last I heard, were all either better than him in reality or better in the organization’s eye, which is arguably more important.
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To be clear, though, despite my overwhelming negativity, I hope the kid survives. If it wasn’t on PPV, I’d actually watch this one, just ‘cause he’s playing, and if I ever get around to getting my Hitmen jersey customized, I’m going to get “PLANTE 4” on it, so as to distinguish it from the “KOZUN 15” I gave my mom for Christmas.
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I would love nothing more than that, but that would also say some scary things about all of Theo Peckham, Taylor Chorney, Dean Arsene, and Johan Motin, who last I heard, were all either better than him in reality or better in the organization’s eye, which is arguably more important.
Peckham is and has been hurt all year, so there’s no way he’s getting called again. Motin, I’m not sure – he was a healthy scratch last week, which is disturbing, but not shocking considering numbers aren’t involved in scratch decisions down there.
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Scott was talking about next season, which is more what I was thinking of when I responded to that. I think 2011-12 or 2012-13 is when we see Plante in an NHL role.
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Yeah, I think Plante is solidly ahead of Motin in the organization’s eyes. IIRC he stayed on a bit later in TC and he hasn’t been healty-scratched near as much as Motin so far this season. Peckham is, IMO, in danger of being passed here depending on how he recovers from injury. Arsene is basically AHL call-up material. I doubt they even consider giving him a regular spot. Which leaves Chorney who is, IMO, uninspiring. If they leave a spot open for the three kids (plus Petry?) to fight over Plante would have a real shot (maybe 10-15%).
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 7:13 PM MST up reply actions
I think Petry is probably the number 1 guy in the organization’s eyes.
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yay for Peaches! :)
(I have two siblings who went to MSU, so I’m biased in favor of Spartans.)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
if their SID would even respond with a “no” I’d like the Spartans more.
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I saw a period of Michigan-MSU on Friday on Big Ten as part of my new HD package (thank you Mommy). I liked what I saw of Petry. Should’ve gotten an assist on the PPG the Spartans scored in the first (maybe he did later), made a few good plays to break up chances at the other end.
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He has been much better this year
Last year he was thrust into more of a leadership role than I think he was ready for, and I believe that the coach was tweaking the system the team was using for breakouts. One of few remaining experienced players + new system = lousy year.
Plus when he makes the NHL (crosses fingers) I can shift from wanting Miro Satan on New Jersey to wanting Jeff Petry and Marc-Eduard Vlasic on the same team.
Peaches and Pickles. It sounds like two puppies. Or the craving of a pregnant woman. :)
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I hadn’t considered long-term injury effects. Good point.
I’d rather have Arsene than Strudwick, ten times out of ten, but I know the org feels differently.
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Can be relied on for -1 every game.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:30 PM MST up reply actions
Oh boy
Penner – Gagner – Nilsson
Moreau – Horcoff – Comrie
O’Sullivan – Pouliot – Brule
Jacques – Cogliano – Stortini
Gilbert – Visnovsky
Grebeshkov – Chorney
Plante – Strudwick
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I certainly didn’t see a Pisani healthy scratch coming. Potulny being out seems strange too. I guess they haven’t been great but… Jacques?
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions
Carolina feed said Pisani was injured.
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The Oilers give up Alberts second goal of the season. These AHL goalies love to give up first and seconds on the year to half-dimensional defensemen.
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Wow. Jacques scores on the guy that looks like Deslauriers
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Doogie isn’t going to be happy that he missed Plante’s first NHL point.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:03 PM MST up reply actions
He’s much taller and much skinner than I expected.
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I’m not. I was eating.
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“JF Jacques with a surprising shot”
That almost rhymes.
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I don’t know if it’s a surprising angle, or just surprising that he actually shot.
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JFJ learned a thing or two about shooting angles from thecaptainethanmoreau. Now if only thecaptain could learn something from JFJ about scoring goals from said angles.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:27 PM MST up reply actions
The Oilers have generally looked good tonight. Getting some pretty good pressure in the offensive zone and there hasn’t been much in the defensive end for them to deal with. I was expecting Staal to really dominate tonight, but it hasn’t happened so far.
Chorney looks not horrible with Visnovsky.
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Pitkanen.
I really miss him. He’s so good.
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Hopefully they don’t dump him on themselves.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
They will, but it’s fun to think about until they do it.
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Agreed. It looked like the play was meant to go to Brule on the original pass but that O’Sullivan didn’t realize it.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:07 PM MST up reply actions
The Oilers have even been full value for the lead. I’m pretty sure the Oilers would need an absolutely awful performance from JDD to lose this one.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
That is so bizarre. He does it as soon as the puck is below him.
Maybe he learned to play goal in the dark.
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Well, I just got home after escaping a cougar attack. I’m sure I didn’t miss anything like the Oilers taking a lead in an NHL game or anything.
Are you okay? I didn’t realize that there were Cougars in Victoria.
Did you stand your ground and make loud noises, or did you run and seek shelter?
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Are you kidding? The Victoria Cougars have as many Stanley Cups as the Carolina Hurricanes!
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 8:29 PM MST up reply actions
But were the Victoria fans passionate? Did they tailgate?
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This was 1925, so I guess they horseless carriage gated.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Tough to load a grill on one of those things, I expect.
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Believe it or not, about 5 years ago I talked to two people who attended the last Stanley Cup game in 1925. My parents retired to Victoria and Dad volunteered late in his life at the Gorge which was some combination of hospital/senior home/palliative care. I went out with him one day when he did his rounds visiting the shut-ins (as Jim Robson used to say). He made a point of taking me to these two old fogeys in their 90s who had both gone to that game in their teens. The woman mostly remembered the atmosphere and the exctiement of being in the crowd, but the old man remembered details of the game and more generally of the team. Lester Patrick was the driving force of that crew, before going to New York. Frankie Fredrickson was the big star of that team. I’m almost certain he was the first ever player to win both Olympic gold and the Stanley Cup. (He was captain of the Winnipeg Battalions who won the Allan Cup in 1920 and gold at the Olympics that summer. (First hockey competition was at the summer games, in Antwerp.)
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:54 PM MST up reply actions
please don't take this the wrong way
But you seem to be a pretty old fella. I only say that because someone young wouldn’t be as likely to have as many interesting stories as you have.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
54
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
whew
Older than I am anyway – I was afraid you were younger and would be offended. :)
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54 > 40
… or bust
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:00 PM MST up reply actions
You are waaaay too young to make Chicago jokes.
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“54-40 or bust” was what I learned in school, but the Interweb appears to support Baroque’s version. It was a slogan of the Americans in the early 19th century when negotiating the northern boundary of the Oregon territory. They wanted to push the northern border to 54°40´. You know, the one we now call the 49th parallel. Needless to say the bastards didn’t make it that far.
The Canadian rock band 54-40 derived its name from this episode in history.
As for 25 or 6 to 4, I loved Chicago (f.k.a. Chicago Tranist Authority) right from their first double album up until the time they went all schmaltz all the time. The title of the song refers to a time of day (specifically, a.m.).
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
yes for the history snippet
I think of it as proof that marketing slogans have always been lame.
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Chicago Transit Authority is one of my favourite albums. Love the way they combined the big-band sound with the nascent progressive rock genre.
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Yeah, a terrific album. Chicago II and III were also real good, but it was diminishing returns after that.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
Chicago II didn’t appeal to me as immediately as CTA did. I feel like I really need to go re-listen to it.
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Yeah. Listen esp. to the side that has “Ballad for a Girl from Buchanan” which is a long medley including the long (superior) version of “Make Me Smile” along with “Color My World” and other good stuff.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:40 PM MST up reply actions
I do like that extended version of “Make Me Smile”.
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I remember the Original 6. Your Red Wings were in 3 of the first 4 SCF I ever watched, ’63-64-66. Lost ’em all.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Bruce is aged like a 31 year old bourbon.
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That would have been outstanding to hear the details of that game!
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Is this a reply to my Victoria Cougars comment? I thought that disappeared into the ether. Maybe some time I’ll do some research and do it justice. The fogeys’ memories were fairly sketchy, and I didn’t take notes or anything.
I do know a little bit about Frankie Fredrickson, though, and his is a story worth telling.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
Even a sketchy memory talking about the final game in a cup series from 1925 would be awesome.
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It was, and to get two perspectives from two different “residents” was remarkable indeed.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 10:43 PM MST up reply actions
There used to be a junior team there named the Cougars, but I don’t think Ben is talking a bout juniors for some reason.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:29 PM MST up reply actions
I think you’re not supposed to run. I know you aren’t supposed to approach them or tease them.
Those were the first rules I remember when I went on vacation this summer. Didn’t see one at all. :(
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I know you aren’t supposed to approach them or tease them.
Nono – you’re definitely supposed to tease them. They love that.
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Not only that, they’ve held it for 5 minutes already. Last time they got a lead, it lasted 0:17. And when they tied it up in Calgary the next game, the tie lasted 0:55.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
Zorg returns to the line-up after going +1 in his last shift and getting sat for two days, and right away his line scores again, and very nearly a second. Very nice pass from Stortini to Jacques there, and J-F didn’t exactly miss from the angle I saw … Ward with a terrific stop.
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Any Eastern conference team that complains about jet lag
Should have everyone who gripes aloud smacked. Try playing in the Western conference for a season and then you can complain.
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Pouliot
It’s nice to have him in the lineup. He does so many little things well. Plus he’s big and right-handed.
Stay healthy kid.
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TSN has Souray returning to the lineup within 6 weeks. Not sure where that comes from though since the Oilers were saying that Souray is getting checked out tomorrow.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
TSN had Souray as the source earlier.
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They went straight to the player? They’re going to lose their access!
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 8:48 PM MST up reply actions
I know I’ve said it already, but the Oilers are actually looking pretty good tonight. The defence especially isn’t making nearly as many mistakes as I was expecting. I haven’t noticed Alex Plante making a lot of great plays but I also haven’t noticed any glaring mistakes.
He blocked a shot earlier, I remember that.
I’m afraid to say anything that might jinx them.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Too bad that Deslauriers is still JDFD
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He’d have got it if he had more courage.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I like that better than JFDD myself. Reminds me of ADHD, just kind of flows off the tongue.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
The weird thing is, I think all the Oilers except Deslauriers played that goal right.
What the hell was Taylor Chorney doing on the penalty kill, though?
They used him there in his first call-up too when he was paired with Strudwick. They’ve reunited them for PK duty tonight. Not sure why they wouldn’t just use Plante with Visnovsky at EV if that was the plan. At least that way you’d keep the pairings together.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
It is an odd choice considering their love of rolling.
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Plante and Vis both play RD.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
I’m horrible for that. I always just assume defencemen can play either side. It’s probably a really awful assumption.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
They can, and some do. The swing man for the Oilers seems to be (sigh) Strudwick. He sucks equally from either side.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
Like a cougar.
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by Derek Zona on Feb 1, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey-yo!
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Pouliot
I love that kid.
Come on Poo lee ought. Keep it rolling.
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Pouliot is having a darn good game tonight.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
He needs to play 25 more games like this and go into next year as the #4 center. They need him.
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They said he was the best Oiler in the first, and then he got that goal on that short side wraparound. Did we trade JDFD to Carolina during the game?
+2 for my man Zorg now.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
You’re a Stortini fan, Bruce? I never would have guessed. ;)
All kidding aside I am with you about the last two games. He’s one guy who doesn’t deserve to take a seat.
Take a seat? They bag-skated him! I’d LOVE to know the reasoning.
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He’s having a sound game tonight. Had an assist on Poo’s last goal by twice making a good play to control and cycle the puck, and made a fine pass to JFFJ for a near-goal in the first. Drew an elbowing penalty from Pitkanen just by finishing his check. Has 3 hits and is 2-0 on the dot. Not bad for <4 minutes work!
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"Never be ashamed of who you are" -- Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
Did Someone Say Cougars?
Oh it was just Massey. ;)
Yes Pouliot.
No JDD. Fuck he’s terrible. And the first five minutes of the period I thought the Oilers were shorthanded. But they weren’t.
After that hit from Brule they could well be shorthanded for five minutes now.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
Jeff Deslauriers is in goal.
His nickname should be “the Equalizer”.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
A quick read of your first sentence looked like ‘Jeff Deslauriers is a goat’
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You think they’d be winning if I was there? Bruce “O-for-the-season” McCurdy? I did them a favour by staying the hell away.
Besides, nobody offered me a freebie tonight.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
I was about to say that, in the AJHL, Mike Comrie had a fucking Joe Sakic quick release and what happened to that guy?
But, hell, it worked out.
The Edmonton Comrades got to him and sucked the life-force out of him.
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2007 Draft Watch
Sam Gagner: 53GP, 14G, 19A
Jakub Voracek: 56GP, 8G, 20A
Even better, I think this might be the first season in which Gagner has consistently and reliably improved as the season’s dragged on.
Hard to complain about the Gagner selection. I guess those two were the “consensus” at that point but I sure am glad they didn’t go off-board there.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
My longing for Voracek over Gagner in 2007 might just wind up on my “why I shouldn’t be an NHL GM” list.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
Sam is playing a fine game tonight. I was impressed by his last PP shift when he came back to settle down a developing clusterfuck in front of the Oiler net, emerged with both the puck and speed, and made a fine pass to gain the ’canes zone.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
And the qualcomp stuff isn’t close.
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Penner gives you everything. Penalty killing, faceoffs, goals, passing, work in front…just an all around worker.
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Gagner does take most of his own draws. Penner takes them when Gagner gets thrown out for sure. I’m not sure if he takes them at other times.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
I looked away for a second and saw Penner taking the faceoff. He then got warned for jumping, which would have been an automatic penalty if Gagner had already been tossed.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
Penner takes some of the LW draws.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
Strudwick
Dear Jason – you are the one player on the ice that should NEVER EVER pinch deep
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I did like the way Plante played the 2-on-1. I think he’s been pretty decent tonight. Definitely better than Peckham was earlier this year.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
He’s looked like the 4th best dman on the ice for the Oilers tonight.
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That bad, huh?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
And then he draws the penalty. Good stuff.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
Stortini
Horrible turnover there. Bag skate him.
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I don’t recall this bag skate at all. Where did you hear about it?
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
Walter Winchell was told by the team to tweet it.
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Last week, the day Brule and Comrie came back. 25 minutes (reportedly) at the end of the morning skate, both him and POS before both sat out.
It’s good for him, whether he deserves it or not.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
Huh. I knew the extras do some extra skating after practice. I wonder if Tencer was exaggerating it, though I guess the team would let him know to take it down if he was.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:44 PM MST up reply actions
He didn’t deserve it and it’s shit unless he talked about Quinn’s mother or something.
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Perhaps Quinn was trying to scare the veterans. “My god, if he’ll do that to a young fourth-liner making no money, imagine what he’ll do to me!”
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
The part that pissed me off was Quinn talking about using the PB as a hammer for the guys not putting out, then when he talked about benching Zorg kept saying “Zack gives you everything he has every night”. WTF kind of message is that?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:49 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed Bruce. Especially on a team this far out of it “who sits” should be a lot more about effort than talent level.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:51 PM MST up reply actions
You talking about the play where Zorg cleared the danger area but the guy kept it in just inside the line? Needed about 1% more mustard, but it actually wasn’t that bad of a play.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t think the Sutters give birth like normal humans – there are too many of them.
They must reproduce by binary fission, like yeast.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
What gives you the idea they’re humans, let alone “normal” ones? They’re Mangalores.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:31 PM MST up reply actions
No way – they all have the ability to negotiate.
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“You are merchants after all.” JBEZ
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
He’s like that big deaf guy that throws the billiards balls to Corbin in The 5th element.
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Short side post
How. How is it possible to never be ON the short side post? You would think that he would accidentally be on that post every once in awhile.
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"Strudwick is hard-pressed to get it out"
From the Carolina PbP.
Buddy, he’s ALWAYS hard-pressed to get it out. He’s reliable that way.
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Yeah, he was tryi ng to move it up Moreau’s wing. B-a-a-a-d combination.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:41 PM MST up reply actions
on the subject of strudwick, without Staios, Hemsky Souray and Pisani, and because it is a home game, there’s nobody left on the team to wear the “A” except good old reliable Jason. Lordy that is a bad sign… On the other hand, the team isn’t losing, so I won’t complain… Just thought I’d mention it…
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 1, 2010 9:46 PM MST up reply actions
You know you’re a long way down the depth chart when …
That said, wearing the A is probably one job Strudwick can be, uh, relied upon to do well.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:50 PM MST up reply actions
eep
Some goaltenders just should never handle the puck. EVER.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Yeah, I watch that fairly carefully, and JDFD is one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
The bad part is that they are never little errors. They are catastrophic.
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No, there are lots of little errors mixed in with the catastophic ones.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 9:50 PM MST up reply actions
And Deslauriers with the unforced error. Jesus.
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At least once a game, usually more.
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Center
It wouldn’t be so bad to go into next season with
Horcoff
Belanger
Gagner
Pouliot
down the middle.
But the chances of signing Belanger are the same that Strudwick isn’t re-signed.
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I’d rather see Gagner as 2C next season, I think. He’s probably not quite ready for it but he’s getting there, and we’d be able to get to the playoffs anyway as long as we get a Betts-type to anchor the three line.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 9:45 PM MST up reply actions
So flip Belanger and Gagner.
Three guys that can win a draw, three that can kill penalties.
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I agree with the plan here. Though I’d at least start Gagner against the 2nd toughs to see if he can do it. But if he struggles, I’d much rather have a proven veteran than Cogliano waiting to fill in. Another vet center as 13th or 14th forward could also be pretty useful.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
Comrie
He’s no great shakes as a veteran, but the difference between he and any of the kids when they have the puck under pressure is noticeable on each shift. There is no freaking out, no throwing the puck off of the nearest skate.
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wtf?
I know this is a few hours behind, but what was with the angry caniacs here earlier? Derek, your post wasn’t offensive at all, just said the obvious-that attendance isn’t great in the RBC center and it’s kind of a shame, and that AHL hockey in Charlotte may not really help that much. It was hardly an insult to a clearly loyal and passionate fanbase, just rather a statistical point similar to other attendance based studies you’ve done. I don’t get where all that anger came from…but as a sociologist, maybe I’ve been trained to ignore emotion…
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I don’t know too much about sociology but why would you ignore emotion as a sociologist?
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 9:55 PM MST up reply actions
Same reason a statistician would
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I totally misunderstood shepso’s comment. I thought he was referring to ignoring the emotion as a factor in what he’s studying.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions
actually, that is kind of true, Scott, in a way. I deal with Israel Palestine issues, where emotion plays a really huge role in the perpetuation of the conflict, yet that emotion is often ignored. Studies seem to attempt to rationalize the results of political and military decisions on both sides…but now I am overgeneralizing and this is certainly not the forum to debate such things. I can be emailed if anyone wants to know what it is that I am working on… Derek knows how to find me.
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 1, 2010 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
Head north and go until the smell of the grill overwhelms you
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East, Derek, I live east now….
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 2, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not sure. And then Reynolds started attributing things to me that I didn’t write and the great state of North Carolina followed his lead.
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It blew me away. I expect more than 100 posts on the GDT, not your usual tale of the tape…and then I saw all the anger. So much anger., and calling you a hack… I’m the hack…Massey, well, see below…but you? I don’t get it. Oh well. I guess all 13000 caniacs can eat a tiny bit of southern humble pie tonight. Losing to the oilers…jeez, who does that?!
(I don’t actually mean that… I am not up for inciting any more blog-riots. Again, I know they have a really incredible fan base down there and are not a third rate market doomed to fail. That would be Atlanta. Again. The Carolinas are two beautiful states with very nice people and a deep and rich history of professional and NCAA sports)
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 1, 2010 10:19 PM MST up reply actions
Come off it Derek. I didn’t say you talked about Hartford at all. I added that little section as a contrast because Hartford really was a struggling hockey market. I never once said that you brought it up. Not every single thing in someone’s response needs to have a direct mention in your article in order to be relevant.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry lads…I really didn’t mean to stir up any trouble. No need for in-fighting. you guys both did good work today-which is more then I can say most of the time
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 1, 2010 10:38 PM MST up reply actions
Hey!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry Bruce. I’ll behave…
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 1, 2010 10:47 PM MST up reply actions
So you agree that nothing I said was controversial.
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Well, now, there’s some controversy about that.
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 10:51 PM MST up reply actions
Well, no. Anytime you characterize a hockey market as “struggling” I think you can expect some wrath from the fanbase in question. Enough pro sports teams have changed cities that I can see how someone might make that inference from your post and take exception even if it’s not what you meant to imply. Seems like you were goading a bit, which is fine because it often results in a pretty good conversation. I didn’t agree with everything you said in the piece and I think we – for the most part – had a good conversation.
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 1, 2010 11:00 PM MST up reply actions
it’s strange…in Sociology, it’s the stats guys that focus on “objectivity” and distance themselves from the qualitative, “saw him good” kind of analysis and theory. I have a prof who does sociology of science and completely believes that there can’t be emotion in one’s own research as it will cloud the study with unneeded bias and subjectivity… She’s a terrible prof.
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What is this thing where the Oilers’ number is higher than the other team’s number? Is there a shootout now?
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 10:00 PM MST reply actions
Ben gets deprived of his bitterly sardonic PGT. Whatcha gonna do?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 10:02 PM MST up reply actions
i don’t get it…there’s a thing that happens when the oilers have a higher number than someone else? and it isn’t losses?
crap, I think I need more beer…this other stuff is clearly playing tricks on my mind
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by Stephen Sheps on Feb 1, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
“Ethan, what did you say to Cam Ward?”
“I told him his wife was a dyke!”
“Jesus Christ. No wonder he allowed a wimpy backhand goal to a guy made out of dry Popsicle sticks.”
“His wife is a dyke!”
“Anybody called my old lady a dyke, I’d go fucking bananas.”
“Jason, you go fucking bananas when the puck is within four feet of your stick.”
by Benjamin Massey on Feb 1, 2010 10:02 PM MST reply actions
"Jason, you go fucking bananas when the puck is within four feet of your stick."
That’s why the fans ask for more Massey
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Let the pre-Olympic hot streak begin.
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Alex Plante debut stats
1 A, 12:00 TOI, +2, 0 PIM, 1 BLK, 1 GV, 1 HIT
Good on ya, kid.
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Your prediction was the first thing I thought of at the beginning of the third period.
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good night, all
Thanks for letting me hang out with you guys – it was fun. Enjoy the win.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Good night to you. Thanks for dropping in.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 1, 2010 10:17 PM MST up reply actions
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