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Oiler Prospects November NHLE - Curtis Hamilton Comes Alive

Curtis Hamilton is taking over and we can do nothing to stop him.  Fred Furlong told us in August that Hamilton was garnering attention in World Junior Camp and it was because of his penalty killing, two-way acumen and his physical play.  Since then, Hamilton has been the favorite to make Team Canada to take on the toughs, kill penalties and handle the checking assignments, so Hamilton's offense has been the big surprise of the young WHL season.

To get a sense of how his numbers would translate to the NHL, we can use Gabriel Desjardins' NHL Equivalency.  Gabe's methodologies are described on his translations page:

One way to evaluate the difficulty of one league relative to another is to examine the relative performance of players who have played in both leagues.  Players rarely play significant time in two leagues in the same year, but they often play in one league in one year and in another the next.  As long as a player’s skill level is approximately constant over this two year period, the ratio of his performance in each league can be used to estimate the relative difficulty of the two leagues.

If you're interested in the numbers behind some of the players that may be drafted in this year's lottery, check out SumOil's CHL update posts every other Monday.

After the jump is the full list of skating prospects with their NHL Equivalency and full season projections.

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Player - League DOB Drafted NHL PPG NHL82 G NHL82 A NHL82 P Change
Linus Omark - AHL 2/5/87 97 0.440 19 17 36 +6
Ryan Martindale - OHL 10/27/91 61 0.430 15 20 35 +3
Curtis Hamilton - WHL 12/4/91 48 0.413 14 20 34 +7
Liam Reddox - AHL 1/27/86 112 0.402 19 14 33 +6
Anton Lander - SEL 4/24/91 40 0.390 16 16 32 +4
Robby Dee - NCAA 4/9/87 86 0.378 13 18 31 -22
Tyler Pitlick - WHL 11/1/91 31 0.334 13 14 27 +1
Alexander Bumagin - KHL 3/1/87 170 0.291 10 14 24 -7
Toni Rajala - SM-Liiga 3/29/91 101 0.286 13 10 23 -1
Ryan O`Marra - AHL 3/29/91 15 0.278 0 23 23 +11
Colin McDonald - AHL 9/30/84 51 0.249 17 3 20 +2
Alexei Mikhnov - KHL 8/31/82 17 0.231 4 15 19 +2
Kellen Jones - NCAA 8/16/90 202 0.219 9 9 18 -16
Teemu Hartikainen - AHL 5/3/90 163 0.210 11 6 17 +2
Drew Czerwonka - WHL 7/1/92 166 0.151 7 5 12 -2
Chris Vande Velde - AHL 3/15/87 97 0.140 7 5 11 +4
Milan Kytnar - AHL 5/19/89 127 0.100 2 7 8 -2
Kristians Pelss - WHL 9/9/1992 181 0.089 2 5 7 +4
Philippe Cornet - AHL 3/28/90 133 0.059 0 5 5 -2
Cameron Abney - WHL 5/23/91 82 0.048 3 1 4 -2








Player - League DOB Drafted NHL PPG NHL82 G NHL82 A NHL82 P Change
Martin Marincin - WHL 2/18/92 46 0 8 19 27 0
Brandon Davidson - WHL 8/21/91 162 0 4 18 22 +8
Jeff Petry - AHL 12/9/87 45 0 6 16 22 +1
Jeremie Blain - QMJHL 3/19/92 91 0 0 12 12 0
Taylor Chorney - AHL 4/27/87 36 0 0 11 11 +2
Kyle Bigos - NCAA 5/12/89 99 0 0 10 10 -3
Alexandre Plante - AHL 5/9/89 15 0 2 8 10 +4
Johan Motin - AHL 10/10/89 103 0 2 4 6 +6
Troy Hesketh - USHL 7/5/91 71 0 0 0 0 0

 

  • Tyler Pitlick told us about his move to right wing and how it's freed him up to focus on offense.  Though his overall points equivalency hasn't changed much, the breakdown has.  After October Pitlick's NHLE was 8G - 18A, after November, it's 13G - 14A.  The goals are starting to come for the young winger.
  • Martin Marincin is the model of consistency.  27 points after October, 27 points after November. 
  • The small number of games played by NCAA teams makes for some wild swings in NHLE.  Robby Dee ended October with 7 games played.  Maine only played 6 games in November.  His month long cold streak saw his NHLE fall from 53 points to 31 points.  Kellen Jones played 7 games and his month long cold streak saw his NHLE fall from 34 points to 18 points.
  • Combine Colin McDonald's 17 NHLE goals and Ryan O'Marra's 23 NHLE assists and you've got yourself a fine player.  Combine McDonald's 3 NHLE assists and O'Marra's 0 NHLE goals and you've got yourself J.F. Jacques.
  • If Anton Lander can deliver all of the intangibles associated with him by every scout, coach and fan as well as 16G and 16A to go along with his penalty killing and defensive efforts, there's a real player coming over soon.
  • Troy Hesketh continues to struggle in the USHL and as doritogrande reminds us, Jeff Petry was an absolute star in that league.
  • Brandon Davidson was good for more than a point per game in November.
  • Toni Rajala, Jeremie Blain, Phil Cornet and Alexei Mikhnov all struggled with injuries in November.

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Ryan Martindale: still awesome.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 3, 2010 6:23 PM MST reply actions  

•Combine Colin McDonald’s 17 NHLE goals and Ryan O’Marra’s 23 NHLE assists and you’ve got yourself a fine player. Combine McDonald’s 3 NHLE assists and O’Marra’s 0 NHLE goals and you’ve got yourself J.F. Jacques.

Bwahaha….

Does O’Marra still have any kind of window left with Lander and Van de Velde hot on his heels? It’s funny that O’marra was probably signed at McDonald’s expense… I’m surprised someone from the Burke train of thought hasn’t swooped in and signed him after his season thus far. (or is there some sort of obligation to the Oilers that i’m unaware of).

by CDA on Dec 3, 2010 6:50 PM MST reply actions  

omarra is ahead of Vande valde right now. Lander will almost assuredly be in Ahl. So I think Omarra has a season over the other two

by SumOil on Dec 3, 2010 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Mikhnov is still alive? And still an Oilers prospect? Holy crap, he was drafted aeons ago!

by Stephen's Beaven on Dec 3, 2010 7:35 PM MST reply actions  

I’m glad to see that Abney is nicely rounding into the power forward we all expected him to be. JFJ better watch his back.

by Yeti# on Dec 3, 2010 7:45 PM MST reply actions  

•If Anton Lander can deliver all of the intangibles associated with him by every scout, coach and fan as well as 16G and 16A to go along with his penalty killing and defensive efforts, there’s a real player coming over soon.

Huh, we have a new Swedish follower over at Cult of Hockey also Twitter, so I asked him about Lander, and his answer was quite illuminating:

On Lander: well, Timra have been very up and down but Lands is one of their better players for sure. Timra-fans trying to pursue him not to to World Juniors, they tend to think their game without Lander would sink Timra. And his game have been more solid then numbers tell. Fans love him

Interesting that the fans don’t think they can spare him to play for his country. Tells me that a) World Junior is not that big a deal and b) Lander is pretty indispensible where he is.

Also love that statement about his game being “more solid than numbers tell”. That sounds like the player I’ve been tracking.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 3, 2010 7:55 PM MST reply actions  

There are some European fans that also think players have a letdown after the World Juniors and struggle. I’m sure some guys do, but I don’t honestly know if keeping players away is the better solution.

That said, I hope Curtis Hamilton is cut immediately and sent back to Saskatoon ASAP. :)

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by Bruce Peter on Dec 3, 2010 10:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Tells me that a) World Junior is not that big a deal

it depends from fan to fan. If it was solely Hall’s decision whether or not to go the world juniors, then how many of us would be hoping that he turns it down to keep playing in the Nhl.

by SumOil on Dec 4, 2010 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

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