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Fixing the Oilers Part 2 - Planning and Budgeting

Editor's Note:  This is a continuation of Part 1, Let's Fix Those Oilers, Shall We?

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Post 2:  Planning and Budgeting- How do we spend those dollars?

Planning and Budgeting

But before we can go selecting players, we need to have some guidelines for how we spend out cap dollars.  To do this well, you should set a budget per line, defensive pairing, etc. So, with that in mind, let's start about building one for the Oilers.

Why is this important? For every dollar you overpay on one line, you have to under pay on another.  And history has shown that you can't get out of balance and win.  Look what happened to Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh (after winning the Cup) and Chicago (after they won the Cup).  Tampa disappeared into hockey purgatory, Pittsburgh slipped from great to good because they can't afford wingers for Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby, and Chicago had to dismantle itself this past summer and currently sits as a .500 team.  Sure, if you time your entry level contracts right, you can load up for a year, but that's it.  And, by playing Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, and Magnus Paajarvi with the big club this year, you are not going to time those entry level contracts right. 

If that wasn't warning enough, take a look at San Jose.  Great in the regular season. Doormats in the playoffs. Why, because they have over-allocated funds to Dany Heatley, Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau and Dan Boyle.  These 4 players take up $28.3M in cap space. That's $28.3M for only one player with any playoff success or apparent heart/backbone between them.  Scary.  It's also 48% of their cap space.  When you throw in Joe Pavelski, Ryane Clowe and Marc Vlasic you are up at 65% of their cap space on 7 players.  That leaves $1.3 to $1.5 per spot to fill out 14 to 16 roster spots.  The Sharks will never win it all.  Never.  I hope that the Oilers' aspirations are higher than that. 

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With that context, a potential budget allocation model could be as follows.  This model allocates the full $59M, which is risky.  Ideally, you would like to allocate $56M-$57M and leave a little in reserve for in-season acquisitions if you want to make a push.  Generally, though, I am not a fan of giving up the future for a so called "final piece of the puzzle" because they rarely seem to work.  So, let's set these guidelines with an objective of saving a little bit of money where we can.

Note:  this model also ignores salary cap inflation, but should be easy to re-set each year as the cap is adjusted.

 

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 Let's look at the team as it should be 3 years from now, opening day 2013.  At this point, Hall, Paajarvi and Eberle will have finished their entry level deals.

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We have made some assumptions here, particularly around some prospects.  Some prospects may be interchangeable.  For example, Ryan Martindale could thrive and Tyler Pitlick could fall. They both project to be second line centre types, but odds are either would command a similar salary. I will assess this potential line up later, but let's go with it for now so we can project a budget by line and by player.

I should note, I have made some assumptions about who will not be here.  These include Ales Hemsky, Dustin Penner, and Tom Gilbert, whom I believe should be traded, either because they are redundant, do not fit the future model, are too frequently injured, or will most likely walk at the end of the current contract as UFAs.  I will discuss this more in a future post.

Here is how the budget world could break down for the Oilers in 2013 by the Forwards, Defence, and Goal

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 Notes:

  1. First line - need to consider possibility of Hall getting Steven Stamkos money
  2. Second line - Need to project Pitlick (or Martindale) going to the $2.5-$4.0M range for their second contract.
  3. Third line - Curtis Hamilton or Teemu Hartikainen should fit within the $750K to $1.5M range as 3rdline LW.
  4. Fourth line - need to consider funds for a 13th forward

Again, there are some key assumptions here.  I am assuming Hall hits Ryan Getzlaf/Bobby Ryan like money rather than Crosby or even Stamkos money.  For every dollar more you play Hall, you effectively have a dollar less to pay his centre.  I am also assuming Eberle achieves Nathan Horton/Jordan Staal like money.  So, what does this tell us?  Optimistically, this would allow you to pay up to $5.5M in cap dollars for your first line centre, who you may get in the 2011 draft.  Ideally, you would pay $4-$4.5M and bank the additional cap dollars.  

You will need to be careful on your second line.  Paajarvi could command up to $4M, which means you only have $6M for the other 2 second line spots.  In 2013 you hope to catch a Pitlick or Martindale in the last or second-to-last year of their entry level deals so you can spend a bit more on your 2nd line RW. However, you also need to plan for their second contracts, which could be anywhere from $2.5 to $4M, depending on their offensive production.  So, timing deals on your RW becomes critically important.  

As I started to work through the numbers, it became more evident that Hemsky didn't fit financially, at least if Eberle is the player he appears to be.  If you assume Hemsky will want $5.0M to $5.5M per season, where does he fit? Not on the second line, that is for sure.  He also makes it hard to fit Eberle and Paajarvi on the second line if he takes the top line spot.  Hemsky is a talented player, but his injury history and impact on the budget suggest the Oilers are better off moving him to fill a need than resigning him.  Penner is likewise a financial casualty if Hall and Paajarvi succeed.  There is just no money for him.  

Linus Omark probably projects to fit in nicely from a cap perspective. Sam Gagner is harder to forecast.  Given where he was drafted, one would expect him to be trending to a higher dollar value contract.  Given where his offence is trending, he may fit the budget, but if his offence stays mediocre and he is small and less than average defensively, it's hard to make a case for keeping him. Basically, I am also not sold on his fit with the organization, as I will outline in a future post.  So, I have left the RW slot open, with Omark or Gagner as a question mark. 

Your third line works well in the short term if Lander succeeds and is on his entry level deal.  But if he is successful you also need to budget his upside for his next contract.  Ditto for Hamilton, whom you hope is your 3rd line LW.  It could also be Hartikainen, who falls to the 4th line otherwise. A veteran with leadership skills should get up to $2M for the third line RW spot.  This would free up dollars that may be needed on the top 2 lines

The fourth line is about value deals. As noted in the chart, you should never, ever, overspend on this line.  Period.  Shoot any GM who does. 

Now for the defence:

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  1. First pairing - Gilbert fits financially, but not skill wise.
  2. Second paring - Could be overly optimistic on Ladislav Smid.
  3. Third Pairing - This is a guess at Alex Plante, assuming he develops nicely. Could be less. Could flip with Smid if he develops better than I think and Smid plateaus. Theo Peckham could fit into the six defenseman slot financially and skills-wise.

Defensively, Ryan Whitney is a nice fit both skills wise and budget-wise on the top pairing.  Tom Gilbert is another story.  His current salary slots him into the top pairing.   You need more bang for the buck from that slot and I would look to move Gilbert.  The only question is when.

The second pairing projects well from a budget stand point if Smid and Jeff Petry fill those roles.  This model also projects value from your third pairing.  Avoid temptation to throw Gilbert money at Petry on his second contract.  Gilbert is overpaid and you won't know for sure on Petry by then.  Martin Marincin seems to have the potential to replace Petry or Smid on this pairing, but the financials should be about the same. 

At this point it is hard to predict what the 3rd pairing will cost.  Money saved on 1st and 2nd pairings would be well spent here.

And last but not least, the goaltenders:

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Goaltending is a complete crapshoot here.  I have left the top slot open because your current management won't play Devan Dubnyk enough to find out what he is worth, and it is too early to make a call on Olivier Roy.  This is discussed more in a subsequent post. 

The Horcoff Effect

I purposely ignored Shawn Horcoff when pulling the analysis above together, focusing more on players that needed to be resigned.  But Horcoff is under contract to 2014/15, so we can't ignore him.  The impact of over-valuing players in a salary cap world cannot be better illustrated by any player more than Horcoff.

Look what happens when we slot Horcoff in on the second line instead of Pitlick (or Martindale).  Under no circumstances should you have a plan that slots Horcoff in as your top centre in 3 years. Or, frankly, as your third line centre.

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See, we have a major problem.  We can only afford to pay our 2nd line RW $500K per season.  This is not realistic, which means we need to "go cheap" somewhere else.  But where? We need to find $2-3M in additional cap dollars. 

Do we take it from the top line?  Ouch!  Is this the place we really want to go cheap?  Probably not, but we can hope to squeeze up to $1M if we have a young stud on the last year of his entry level deal.  Under any other circumstance, our top line centre probably isn't our long term first line centre.  We will end up like the Ducks when they were "Mighty" and had Steve Rucchin as the top line guy between Teemu Selanne and Paul Kariya.  Respectable? Maybe, but not a winner.

So, may be we squeeze some dollars out of the 3rd line?  Hmm, our top two lines aren't strong defensively, so if we go cheap here, we have some real risk we won't be able to shut down anybody and that will kill us.

So, the defence then.  If Marincin is a star, or if Petry exceeds expectations, then maybe we can find some money on the defensive end, but those are big ifs.  We should have a scenario for this, but we shouldn't bank on it.

So that leaves goaltending.  We have $5M allocated to two positions.  If we shave a $1M-$2M out of here, we either have to catch a young goalie on the rise, or be confident our defence is so good we don't need a top goalie.  Well, I like how our defence projects, but I don't love it that much.  So, we cross our fingers on Dubnyk or Roy, or some as yet unknown goalie exceeding cap cost? That's a big gamble. Chicago took that gamble with Marty Turco this year, and I would say so far the results have been less than promising.

I am not saying Horcoff has no value to the Oilers.  In fact, I have liked his play this season and his work with Hall and Eberle particularly.  But in 2013 those kids won't need a chaparone any more.  Not at that cost, anyway.

This should highlight the value of planning from a financial point of view.   Your GM needs a budget allocation model that is continually being worked, refined, and updated.   

In my next post, I will look at Skills, Fit and Talent.

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excellent post

how much is invested in Lander being 3rd line material? i see ol’ Anton as being groomed into the team-first-leader the Oiler’s have lacked since they traded Stoll, so why not have him anchor Paaj and Gags.
I see Lander making more sense playing second toughs, and allowing some combination of Martindale, Pitlick and Hartikainen/Hamilton feasting on weak competition

by Bananahammer on Dec 28, 2010 6:51 PM MST reply actions  

I hope you are right, but everything I have read points to a third line, John Madden type player

by gcw_rocks on Jan 3, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Please kill me if Smid is ever paid $3mil and if he is ever worth more at $3mil than Gilbert is at $4mil.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Dec 29, 2010 10:20 AM MST reply actions  

I hear you, but I still have hope for Smid. If I am wrong, he makes less and is traded or slides to the bottom pairing. And you have $3M to spend on someone else.

by gcw_rocks on Jan 3, 2011 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not sure I see the logic in keeping Whitney over Gilbert.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Dec 29, 2010 10:34 PM MST reply actions  

I see Whitney as a more complete, more consistent player. He has probably been the Oilers best, most consistent player this year. So, choosing between him and Gilbert, I would take him. I would like to see him paired with a big, clear the front of the net out player, and that isn’t Gilbert. So, no Gilbert in my plan,

by gcw_rocks on Jan 3, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

But Whitney is more injury prone.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Jan 4, 2011 5:27 PM MST up reply actions  

people tend to forget this point a lot.
They dont appreciate the fact that a player has little injury history.

by SumOil on Jan 4, 2011 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, that is a factor. If the injury trend continues, then you would need to start planning for a replacement. For now, that’s a risk I would take. I can understand others might not.

If you are big on that, then you can’t view hemsky as part of the future. he is about as injury prone as it gets. If I was tamby and hearing all this noise out of Pittsburgh about the Pens looking for wingers for Crosby, I would be on the phone trying to pry Staal out. He’s been injury free prior to this year. A trade would fill a need for both teams. And you need to do it before Snow gives up Matt Moulson….

by gcw_rocks on Jan 5, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

If you are big on that, then you can’t view hemsky as part of the future. he is about as injury prone as it gets.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2010/12/12/1869775/is-it-time-to-trade-ales-hemsky

hehe

by SumOil on Jan 5, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Post

Thanks for this.

Some issues

1- IMO, San Jose has positioned themselves very well for the last few years and for the next 3 years as well. The fact that they haven’t hit the jackpot in the tournament of small sample size is no reflection of the group of players. I don’t believe in clutchness.

2- If you allocate 7 million to the second pairing, Tom Gilbert fits in there very well. Lots of solid defensive defenceman out there for 3 million.

3- As you pointed out early in the article, this pay structure doesn’t take into account the NHLPA engaging the escalator (which they have every year so far). This would in practice add 5% – 10% to the budget and lower the amount of space that current contracts take up (eg. Gilbert and Horcoff)

by Matt.N on Dec 30, 2010 9:26 AM MST reply actions  

Only problem with San Jose is that they haven’t maintained a good defense. Every year they have given much more importance to upgrading their offense often at the cost of D

by SumOil on Jan 4, 2011 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice post, and I like the method of budgeting by line. The one thing I would be careful of assuming, however, is that you need a clear #1 line and #2 line to win. A 1a and 1b line with more even salaries could also do the trick.

I wouldn’t be so quick to write off Horcoff as completely out of your plans, but it makes sense to identify him as a potentially tight squeeze on the cap.

Honestly, if the Flames had thought like this at all the last few years, we wouldn’t be wondering how many lottery picks we’ll rack up in the next few years.

Ryan

Matchsticks & Gasoline, Sports Opinionated, Pink Shirt Wise Guys: Italian Soccer Podcast & occasionally even Hockey Prospectus. Apparently I have commitment problems.

by SO_RyanP on Dec 30, 2010 9:52 AM MST reply actions  

I like your opinions on budgeting and planning but the skeleton roster you show has no chance of winning a cup in 2013. This is a very young lineup. Choosing Omark over Gagner for example and adding Hartikainen to 3rd line leaves you with 8/12 forwards having 3 or less years pro experience and not one of those guys would be in their prime age of ~27-29. You are likely way overvaluing the progress of prospects like Pitlick, Vande Velde and Hartikainen/Hamilton. Hall and Eberle look like the real deal but expecting them to carry a bunch of young kids is a mistake. Even Paajarvi is not on as good a pace as Gagner’s rookie season so why expect his second contract to be so much higher than Sam’s/potentially consider dumping Sam so easily?
I think it is vital to keep Hemsky/Penner through their next contract if this team hopes to win. They are part of the solution not the problem. The problem lies in the lack of balance on the team and a couple lingering bad contracts. It is the bottom of the roster that needs an overhaul. If Lander or Vande Velde can fill that 3/4 C hole by 2013 you are lucky. Guys like Brule/Cogliano have to figure out how to contribute positively every game and not be defensive liabilities. Guys like JFJ need to be gone/upgraded. Stortini and Jones are decent 4th line options.

by Oi on Dec 31, 2010 9:45 AM MST reply actions  

I think like many Oiler fans, the author has fallen into the future trap. Future bias is understandable – except for 2005-2006 the team has been selling the fans on it since 1993.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe, but I don’t think there are quick fixes to what ails the Oilers. What I fear is the Oil will make some short term moves that really hurt the future, like they did with Horcoff.

That said, my real point is you need a budgeting framework to work within. You need to figure out who is out of place financially on each line and start moving peices. You need to do that in context of you have and who you are developing. If you don’t have a view as to what Hall, Eberle and Paajarvi are going to demand when there entry level contracts expire, you can make some dangerous free agency decisions, or over-pay less key players to retain them rather than make the tough choice to trade them or let them walk.

by gcw_rocks on Jan 3, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree this roster can’t win. I am looking for a 5 year plan, much like the Oilers had in 1979. This roster, with this years draft picks added in (looks like top 5 again) should be an up and coming team in 2013. Playoffs for sure, and fun to watch. But still a year or two away from winning it all.

I may be overly optimistic on what Paajarvi will be paid, but better to plan for the worst and hope for the best!

If either Eberle or Gagner was 4 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier, I would keep Gagner. But they are what they are and I don’t beleive you can keep 2 lightweights in your top 6 and succeed in today’s NHL. But that’s just my view and why being an armchair GM is so much fun!

by gcw_rocks on Jan 3, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

To be clear, I like what Hemsky and Penner bring to the Oilers. But Hemsky is too injury prone for my tastes and I have serious doubts Penner will ever resign with the Oilers.

And hey, you have to give to get. The Oilers have three serious assets playing LW (Hall, Penner, and Paajarvi) and only 2 spots they can financially afford to play them. One should go to help plug a hole and Penner is my choice.

Ditto for RW, the Oilers have Eberle, Hemsky and Gagner and 2 RW spots. One has got to go for sure or your financials will be messed up. Take your pick and then think about what you would want to get for the asset you decide to move.

by gcw_rocks on Jan 3, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I have serious doubts Penner will ever resign with the Oilers.

I seriously doubt your doubts :P

by SumOil on Jan 4, 2011 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Only time will tell!

by gcw_rocks on Jan 5, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

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