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Toronto Deserves The Next Relocated NHL Franchise

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Mention relocation to an NHL fan and no matter their age or nationality, their eyes glaze over and they immediately speak wistfully of Winnipeg and Quebec as if the end of the Canadian Epoch killed NHL hockey altogether.  If only those idyllic hockey towns were gifted a new team, everything would be right in the NHL and the world at large.  For fans that don't find nostalgia compelling, the allure of a shiny new arena even in a once-failed market like Kansas City is overwhelming.  Sickly franchises like the Islanders or Coyotes would find respite in the American plains with executive suite revenues and large corporate sponsors.

But while nostalgia draws fans to the past and a bright shiny object disorder draws fans to the American Midwest, the elephant in the room remains Southern Ontario.

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Jim Balsillie's failed big to buy and relocate the Coyotes to Hamilton, ON brought to light just how underserved the Canadian hockey market really is, however, the best way to server the Canadian market isn't by going back to two previous failed markets.  If the NHL were to do what's best for the sport, meaning the players, the owners, the fans and the league, the next targeted market should be an old friend - Toronto.

Metropolitan Toronto or the Greater Toronto Area, Southern Ontario essentially, is ideal location for a second hockey club.  The metropolitan population of 5,555,912 ranks 10th out of 27 total NHL markets, and the Metropolitan GDP of $323,000,000 ranks 7th out of 27.  Two of the six markets rankings ahead of Toronto in GDP, New York and Los Angeles, already support multiple teams.  And while there are four other larger markets by economy size (Chicago, Washington, Dallas and Philadelphia), none of those markets have the demand pressures that exist in Toronto. 

The city of Toronto has 51 outdoor rinks, more than the total number of ice rinks in Philadelphia and Dallas combined, and that's just outdoor rinks in Toronto proper, not Southern Ontario as a whole.   The province is almost the sole provider of players to support the 20 team Ontario Hockey League and supports the Ontario Junior Hockey League and Southern Ontario Junior Hockey League and nearly 250 Ontario-born players played in the NHL last season.  Ontario is the market center of the hockey universe.

The simplest measure of demand pressure in a market is ticket prices.  The Toronto Maple Leafs have the highest average individual game ticket prices in the NHL at $114.10 (in 2009-2010), nearly $42 more than next highest individual game ticket in Montreal.  That 58% percent gap has done nothing to thwart attendance, even though the Leafs haven't made the playoffs in five years.  The demand is such that thousands of fans are denied the opportunity to ever live NHL hockey through scarcity of tickets or through cost.  The largest existing market, not potential market, of fans on the continent has been shut out of the NHL experience. 

The NHL could rectify this quite easily.  Whereas Jim Balsillie gained the adoration of Canadian hockey fans everywhere with his strong-armed tactics against the NHL, his attempts to circumvent the most powerful men in hockey were met with the expected reaction - the league was reacting to an outsider lacking proper reverence.  However the league must know, despite the strong objections of the Maple Leafs, how vital a second team in Southern Ontario would be to league health.

A second team in Southern Ontario, whether in Mississauga, Brampton, Hamilton or Burlington, will be one of the most profitable teams in the league.  And in a league where eleven of the thirty teams are receiving significant revenue sharing income, and a league-owned team operated at a $53,776,576 loss, finding a market capable of supporting a profitable team without a deep-pocketed owner is paramount.  As with the Coyotes and Stars, even the deepest of pockets can end up in bankruptcy, so a stable, cash rich market, flush with hockey fans is a dependable stream of revenue.

The players should support a second team in Southern Ontario as any team in the market would likely spend to the cap on a regular basis.  Another team spending to the cap and bidding on free agents, would put upward pressure on player salaries, meaning more money for the NHLPA as a whole.  In the five full years following the lockout, the Coyotes spent $201,000,000 on salaries, whereas a cap team's payroll would have topped $246,000,000 million.  $9,000,000 in yearly salary in not a negligible amount, especially considering the collapse in the market for checkers and bottom of the roster veterans.

When it comes to relocation, fans shouldn't wax nostalgic.  Though the return of the Nordiques and Jets is a romantic one, it's Southern Ontario that better positions the league for the future.  Given the struggles the league has faced since the final round of expansion, it's about time someone in the began to worry about the long-term stability of the league.  Give the fans the Hamilton Attawandaron, the Brampton Bills, the Mississauga Chonnonton or the Burlington Braves, it doesn't matter, just give them stability and opportunity.

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I’m extremely curious to see if the NHL front office has a change of heart next summer, after the next US tv deal is signed. I’ve long thought that the NHL would continue to prop up failing teams in Phoenix and Atlanta until they signed their next long-term broadcast deal. It would be beneficial to go into negotiations with those cities as part of the NHL. Once the deal is signed, however, it would be interesting if the NHL suddenly deemed Hamilton, Winnipeg, QC, or Toronto as ripe for a team.

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by birky on Dec 2, 2010 1:41 PM MST reply actions  

Coming from the area, I actually disagree.

Toronto is a Maple Leafs town, not a hockey town. Throwing another NHL team in the area isn’t a guarantee by any means.

There are a couple of issues:

1. Where to put the team.

It certainly won’t be in Brampton/Mississauga (or it better not be). Both cities are growing very fast but everything is outward. Brampton continues to grow North but there isn’t a spot nor the infrastructure to put an NHL sized arena in the only area that currently has space. Mississauga is literally running out of room to develop and they would suffer from the same lack of infrastructure.

Hamilton/Kitchener are an option but then you are getting a little far from the primary population base. Hamilton is on the Western quarter of the golden horseshoe (the most populated region in Canada), but it’s direct access to population is only about 750,000 (people within 30-45 minutes). Kitchener is even worse. The Kitchener Waterloo region is over an hour away from Toronto and it’s region is lucky if it has 400,000 people.

2. Who Will Support Them.

The Ontario teams that do well attendance wise consist of teams who are generally outside of the GTA. Oshawa is about the only team I can think of off the top of my head who have consistantly done well. Both Brampton and Mississauga have rather poor track records. Hamilton hasn’t had a team in forever (and haven’t supported their AHL teams all that well either).

I think (based on history) that a second Toronto team would actually fare very poorly unless they could somehow play downtown, which will never happen.

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by dawgbone98 on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM MST reply actions  

Saying it’s a Leafs town and not a hockey town is such bullshit. Toronto’s a professional town. There’s so many world class things to do with your cash that watching kids play or the AHL just isn’t on most people’s radar.

Mississauga has enough infrastructure in place and coming down the pipeline to have a pro team and it’s the sixth largest city in the country.

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by PPP on Dec 8, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Saying it’s a Leafs town and not a hockey town is such bullshit. Toronto’s a professional town.

So how is it bullshit? It’s not a hockey town. If it’s not the leafs the fans don’t care about it.

There’s so many world class things to do with your cash that watching kids play or the AHL just isn’t on most people’s radar.

Not a lot of World Class things to do in Brampton/Mississauga though and both have a large enough population base to fully support their OHL clubs but they choose not to.

What World Class event was happening in Toronto when Brampton and Mississauga played in front of 1700 fans on Decemer 2nd? We are talkin a population of over 1 million people and the arenas are literally 15 minutes apart.

It’s not a hockey town, that’s been demonstrated by this public numerous times.

Mississauga has enough infrastructure in place and coming down the pipeline to have a pro team and it’s the sixth largest city in the country.

Yeah, and nowhere to put an arena that is accessible. Mississauga’s infrastructure is terrible. They add 20 condo buildings and don’t expand the roads to accomodate them. Getting around Mississauga is becoming a huge chore.

In order for there to be an NHL rink in Mississauga it needs to be right off the QEW, 401 or 403. The only location there I can find is the 401/Mavis area that might be suitable for an Arena of that size.

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by dawgbone98 on Dec 9, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

When it comes to relocation, fans shouldn’t wax nostalgic

How come?

At the risk of coming off sounding like an uneducated rube, do you think a team in between the Leafs and the Habs would be a profit maker? The Senators are already second fiddle to the Leafs by a large margin.

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by chappy35 on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM MST reply actions  

Because nostalgia clouds reason. Quebec and Winnipeg failed for a reason. You can wave your hands and say “oh look, everything is different now”, and everything will be hunky-dory, but that’s not realistic. The major thing that has helped the non-MTL/TOR Canadian teams in terms of economics is the Canadian dollar drawing even with the USD. If that doesn’t maintain, all of a sudden, Winnipeg/QC are in trouble, and indeed, Edmonton could be as well. That’s even before you touch on the other disadvantages the two cities would have, in terms of size, suitable arena, income, etc. There were problems there before, and its downright dumb to pretend that all of them have been magically solved.

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by IAmJoe on Dec 2, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t believe I ever expected problems to be ‘magically solved’ in QC or WPG, (although it would be a nice story if Winnipeg got their just desserts) I do question the financial wisdom in locating another team in Southern Ontario

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by chappy35 on Dec 2, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll say the same thing i always do: Only the Buffalo Sabres could relocate to Hamilton. Otherwise you won’t be decreasing the number of failing franchises.

The league schedule monkeys would also prefer moving one more team farther out west, which may be a consideration.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 2, 2010 2:34 PM MST reply actions  

Don’t disagree with the post as a whole, but using outdoor rinks as a basis for comparison when some of the cities being discussed couldn’t support them for reasons entirely unrelated to enthusiasm for hockey seems a little disingenuous.

by sarcasticidealist on Dec 2, 2010 4:24 PM MST reply actions  

I could use indoor rinks in the metropolitan area, but the numbers are almost unbelievable.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 2, 2010 9:32 PM MST up reply actions  

"Toronto Deserves The Next Relocated NHL Franchise"

I won’t lie, I originally only read the article because I misread this to mean that “Toronto Deserves Its Franchise To Be Relocated” and I wanted to see the case against a team in Toronto haha.

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 2, 2010 4:41 PM MST reply actions  

After tonight’s game, you might be able to make that case.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 2, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

No no… you are reading it wrong.

The city of Toronto is great at supporting 2 AHL franchises and they deserve and NHL one.

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by dawgbone98 on Dec 3, 2010 7:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Let's go Baltimore Skipjacks

A Skipjack is a small tuna, but that isn’t the point. The DC-Philly-NY-Boston Metropolis can support another team, and Baltimore or Hartford is exactly where it belongs. The Islanders are

Philly and DC are very large markets, in fact the entire area from DC to Boston is one big metropolis. The Islanders are misplaced, they should be moved closer to the population (Brooklyn or Staten Island or something). It takes almost 2 hours on the train and buss to get from Madison Square Garden to the Islanders. Hartford is perfectly situated in the middle of hockey country (Mass, Conn, RI) and would be welcomed by the Bruins. And the Islanders could move to an area which is seldom thought about, Baltimore. Baltimore is just 35 miles from DC but the population center is huge, enough to have two MLB teams and NFL teams, and once you realize that Philly is only a short two hours from the Meadowlands and Redskin’s stadium, you might be an understanding of the sports watching fans concentration in this metropolis.

The Islanders should move to Baltimore or Hartford, there are tons of under-served hockey fans in this area as well. If nothing else, NJ (the most densely populated state in the US has Cherry Hill, where more hockey players live than anywhere else in the US (Rangers, Devils, Flyers, and ex-Flyers, ex-Rangers and ex-Devils and even some Islanders live down there).

The demand for hockey in the DCA-IAD-BWI-PHL-JFK-LGA-BOS corridor tremendous and could use another team (or perhaps a better stadium location on the Island). NY surely can support two teams, Baltimore can support a team, and Hartford can support a team, and each market should get a team.

by NickFotiu4HOF on Dec 3, 2010 7:54 AM MST reply actions  

The Islanders are not in the best of spots, logistically, for most New Yorkers to even get to the stadium.

by NickFotiu4HOF on Dec 3, 2010 7:56 AM MST up reply actions  

It takes almost 2 hours on the train and buss to get from Madison Square Garden to the Islanders.

You can cut that in half if you take a cab from one of the nearby train stations (Garden City, Rockville Centre). The LIRR to those stations is only about 45 minutes, and those stations are only about 15 min from the coliseum.

Anyway, the Islanders aren’t a team that is reliant on Manhattanites to build a fan base. Between Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk, there’s enough of a population and enough money to support a team where they are. Problem is, no one wants to go to a crappy arena to watch a crappy team.

They desperately need a new arena though, that place is a hellhole,and until Wang abandons the Lighthouse Project and focuses just on getting an arena built, their attendance will be down. They also desperately need to spend money to get someone they can market. No offense to John Tavares and Mark Streit, who are fine hockey players, they need someone on the level of Lundqvist/Gaborik/Kovalchuk/Parise for the fan base to rally around.

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by George E. Ays on Dec 3, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Problem is, no one wants to go to a crappy arena to watch a crappy team.

Crappy arena almost doesn’t matter in that statement. It’s the crappy team part that keeps people away. When the team is better, and thus draws actual people, the building is a pretty fun one because it’s loud, intimate, and not sterile or cavernous like so many plush new buildings. The crowded concourses and limited amenities suck, but we’ve seen that even shiny new buildings that serve sushi get empty quick when the team doesn’t deliver (Chicago, Washington, St. Louis…).

They need a new venue for plenty of obvious reasons, but I believe the quality of the team and accessibility of the arena are bigger deterrents than the various other reasons people think fans want a new building.

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by Dominik on Dec 4, 2010 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Going to have to agree with George here…while a winning team would obviously help the isles, organizations survive losing seasons by having good corporate support which the islanders severely lack due not having an up to date arena. Teams make most of their money on luxury boxes and sponsorships. Nassau Coliseum just can’t compete with all the new venues in the NY area.

This link gets a little more into that side of the equation

http://www.thehockeysuit.com/2010/03/relocation-and-why-hamilton-doesnt-have.html

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by The Suit on Dec 14, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

It’d be interesting to see how the Capitals would be affected by a team in Baltimore. A lot of the Caps’ fanbase lives in Maryland. It really isn’t that far to Baltimore at all from DC, and the most affluent permanent residents in that area live on the Maryland side of the Potomac.

The Orioles claimed DC as part of their area and demanded compensation when the Nationals moved in. I can’t remember what the situation was like for the Redskins when the Browns moved to Baltimore. I could definitely see the Caps, who are generating good revenue for the first time in the team’s history the past 3 years, could have an issue with Baltimore.

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by Bruce Peter on Dec 3, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

This sort of thing comes up a lot. When people talk about relocating teams in the US, they often point to the big cities near other NHL markets and claim they’re underserved. This may be true, but it’s also possible that the markets doing well in those areas are doing so because they have the population to support a sport that’s relatively unpopular in the US. (Emphasizing relatively, because it’s still a decent draw in some areas, all things considered.) For example, I’ve heard there are a fair amount of Canucks fans in Seattle, and while Seattle has the population to support an NHL team, could they support it as well as the Lower Mainland does and, if so, how would that affect the Canucks? How would a team in Baltimore affect the Caps? How about another New England team? (Bring back the whale!) There’s certainly a lot of people in these areas, but when you take out all the people watch the NBA in the winter, the corporate dollars going to MLB and NFL teams, etc, how much would another franchise reduce the monetary base of the existing teams, and could those new/relocated teams expect enough money to see the teams through the lean, losing seasons? I’m not entirely convinced that Winnipeg, Quebec, or the GTA are viable long-term solutions to the league’s current troubles, but I’m starting to think contraction might be. If the Canadian dollar takes a dump then the 4 “other” Canadian teams will go on the death watch again too, and it might be time to admit that expanding the league so quickly before ensuring the expansions and relocations were going to be stable might have been a mistake. There were a lot of teams added and relocated between 1991-2001, and most of the really struggling teams are in that list.

by despisethesun on Dec 3, 2010 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

The Caps' catchment area history is interesting in and of itself.

When they played at the Capital Centre in Landover (near where the Redskins play now, not reachable by Metrorail at the time), most of their fans came from the eastern/Maryland side of the DC area. The 1997 move to MCI/Verizon Center downtown changed that; they lost some of their old Maryland base (especially southern Maryland) but picked up Virginians, which they arguably had to do because of 1990s demographic changes in Prince George’s County. Ted Leonsis has suggested that the move downtown was awfully close to a new-market relocation in the marketing strategy changes the Caps had to make.

All that said, though there may be some underserved hockey fans in Baltimore and southern Maryland at this point, I don’t think even they plus whatever carveoff they would take from the northeastern side of the Caps’ current catchment area would have the money to support an NHL team, and the NoVA money that could replace them for the Caps would go away again as soon as the bandwagon slows down. (I’d say the richest folks in the area are actually in NoVA, between Langley/Great Falls/McLean and Loudoun/Fauquier horse country.)

The best case for a Baltimore NHL team would be what baseball’s Washington Nationals look like right now — weak draw without a good visitor, praying for an eventual bandwagon to save them. The worst case would be Phoenix without the hope, and cutting enough off the Caps to turn them back into a revenue-sharing drag as well.

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by JoshCVT on Dec 8, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree, but the team should be near the downtown. Don’t stick them in Mississauga.

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