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Vic Ferrari Is...

Awesome.  I'm pretty sure some folks around the Oilogosphere might pick a different word that begins with "A", but I'm also quite certain that's the way Vic would want it.  In my book though, totally awesome. 

I've always been a big fan of hockey, whether it's been playing, watching, or learning about the game.  From the time I turned five years old I was playing the sport at an organized level, or at least as organized as you can be at the age of five.  As I recall, lying down in front of the net was always a pretty successful strategy in that first year, and most teams employed it at least some of the time, much to the chagrin of the coaches.  Over time, we all learned - all of us except maybe Dominik Hasek - that the coaches were right and flopping around on our bellies wasn't the best goaltending strategy available.  I learned many more lessons like that one through experience over the next several years - how to shoot, to pass, to receive a pass, to turn sharply, to backcheck, to take a faceoff, and on it goes - but I don't think I've ever learned more about the game itself in a three-year period than I have in the last three years, and the first man to thank is Vic.

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There are, of course, some personal reasons for my saying that.  I've had numerous monitor-to-monitor conversations with the guy, and they've always been both enlightening and entertaining.  He also encouraged me to start blogging again despite not knowing me from Adam even though I'd shut it down after about a month.  But personal reasons aside, Vic Ferrari has given the online community a ridiculous amount over the last several years.

He was the first to push the concept of "Corsi" ratings as a tool for evaluating players, using it as a proxy for zone time and encouraging others to do the same; he gave us the Zone Shift metrics, which helped to show even more of the context behind the boxcars; he persuaded many that "shot quality" was nearly mythical in the NHL today and trumpeted the the impact that luck has on the game.  And he explained the concepts in such a way that people like me who don't know much math could actually understand.  Smart guy.  If you haven't read through all of his stuff at Irreverent Oil Fans, you most definitely should.

But perhaps the most significant gift is Vic's selfless programming.  He created all of the Time On Ice tools, which have been instrumental in my changing knowledge of the game.  When Dennis King began counting scoring chances, Vic thought they'd have value, so he wrote a program to make the task about a million times easier.  Now, because it's not so labour-intensive, there are many more trackers online.  This, no doubt, thanks to Vic.  But that's not the only thing Time on Ice can do.  I can look at shift charts after every game, or a graph showing how much time each player spent on the ice against each opponent; I can look up how many faceoffs each player took in the offensive or defensive zone in a game, or in a season; I can look up the Corsi ratings for teams and players with the score tied, or close, or when the team is in the lead or trailing.  I can use the tools to do a With or Without You analysis (as Derek did earlier today with his Corsi WoWY on Nicklas Lidstrom).  I can do all of this on my own, learn for myself, and help to advance the discussion.  I can train myself to watch hockey more sensitively by writing down observations as I watch and then testing them against hard data.  And it's all freely available.  Jesus.

And for me, that's what watching hockey is about.  I want to better understand the game, and to learn while still being a fan.  I can't think of any tool that's helped me more than Time on Ice or any person who's helped more than Vic.  So Vic, if you're reading, consider this a well-earned and seldom-received, "Thanks".

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This is long overdue and Im frankly embarrassed I haven’t written something similar before now.

Thanks Scott. And Vic.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 5, 2010 11:34 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

On behalf of all math rejects, we’d be lost without his tools and salute Vic’s efforts.

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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 5, 2010 11:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Fucking A

by R O on Nov 5, 2010 11:41 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Amen.

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by J.P. on Nov 5, 2010 11:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Seconded! (or Sixth’ed, in this case.)

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by George E. Ays on Nov 5, 2010 12:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Seventh’d.

Vic’s great. Completely changed my outlook on the game.

by JLikens on Nov 5, 2010 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well deserved.

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by Matt Wagner on Nov 5, 2010 1:06 PM MDT reply actions  

At least he isn’t a “lawyer from Toronto”

by Matt.N on Nov 5, 2010 1:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Vic has unknowingly made me a smarter, more aware, and overall better fan of this sport I love. Thank you Vic. (P.S. Where are the charts that break up Corsi by score/period?)

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by John Fischer on Nov 5, 2010 3:25 PM MDT reply actions  

timeonice.com

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Nov 5, 2010 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I figured he’s hosting them. What’s the URL? Timeonice.com just kicks you right to shift charts.

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by John Fischer on Nov 5, 2010 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is this what you want?

For single game Corsi/Fenwick, use
http://timeonice.com/shots[season].php?gamenumber=[game ID]

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by red army line on Nov 6, 2010 1:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Vic for the tools, and thanks to everyone here at C&B and around SBN for putting them to work.

by ranford4life on Nov 5, 2010 3:31 PM MDT reply actions  

What Vic Ferrari is to you is C&B to me!

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Nov 5, 2010 4:07 PM MDT reply actions  

All this gushing about Vic is going to make him go soft….

He’s a dick.

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by dawgbone98 on Nov 5, 2010 6:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Scoring chances now consume my life. So, uh, thanks Vic?

On the other hand, the Panthers are a cash cow right now…

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by Derek Zona on Nov 5, 2010 10:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Eighth. His work his great.

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by red army line on Nov 6, 2010 1:58 AM MDT reply actions  

I don’t think there’s any argument that the discussion would be at a significantly different, and significantly inferior, place if it weren’t for the tools and the thinking that Vic’s contributed over the years.

A posse ad esse.

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by Jonathan Willis on Nov 6, 2010 1:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Sycophants!

Well his style is a little to polite for my taste, but for my money is straight up the best hockey thinker. Been knocking it out of the park for a decade.

This said, maybe his analysis has just been really lucky along with being too cordial.

So there’s a chance that on both fronts we see him regress to the mean.

by oilswell on Nov 7, 2010 12:03 AM MDT reply actions  

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