Nicklas Lidstrom Would Probably Beat Rocky Marciano

DETROIT MI - OCTOBER 03: Nicklas Lidstrom #5 of the Detroit Red Wings skates with the puck in a preseason game against the Pittsburgh Penguins on October 3 2010 at the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit Michigan. The Penguins defeated the Red Wings 5-2. (Photo by Claus Andersen/Getty Images)

Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano the minute he was 76 years old. Joe Louis is always lying about his age. He lie about his age all the time. One time Frank Sinatra came in here and sat in this chair. I said Frank 'you hang out with Joe Louis, just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis.' You know what Frank told me, he said "Hey, Joe Louis is 137 years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!

--Clarence the Barber, "Coming To America"

Nicklas Lidstrom might be slowing down, but that only means he's fallen to all-star levels from superhuman levels.  In 2009, he led the team in power play minutes, was second in penalty kill minutes, and third in even strength minutes.  It all added up to Lidstrom leading the team in minutes played at age 39.

Lidstrom's traditional numbers, 9G 40A, were good for third on the team and if Mike Babcock had decided on Jimmy Howard over Chris Osgood in goal from the beginning of 2009, Lidstrom likely would've been a Norris Trophy finalist.

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This is going to sound a bit like the movie "Rookie Of The Year", Lidstrom is one of only 25 players to have a 70 point season after the age of 36 and the only defenseman to do so.  He's one of 30 players to have a 55+ point season after the age of 37 and one of 25 players to have a 45+ point season after the age of 38.  If Lidstrom is able to post a 50 point season at the age of 40, he'll join Ray Bourque, John Bucyk, Alex Delvecchio, Gordie Howe, Mark Messier in a rather exclusive club.

Lidstrom isn't just living off of the power play either.  Listed below is Lidstrom's Corsi over each of the last three seasons.  This data can be found at behindthenet.ca thanks to Gabe Desjardins.


2007 2008 2009
Age 37 38 39
Corsi 19.9 18.1 15.52

 

And lest we think Lidstrom is sponging off of the rest of the team's work in the Corsi department, I've done a Corsi WOWY comparison of the 2009-2010 Red Wings.  This data can be found at the outstanding timeonice.com by Vic Ferrari.

Teammate w/ Lidstrom w/o Lidstrom
Abdelkader 0.538 0.514
Cleary 0.572 0.541
Datsyuk 0.587 0.559
Eaves 0.517 0.512
Maltby 0.528 0.471
Miller 0.558 0.496
Leino 0.552 0.556
Stuart 0.515 0.516
Rafalski 0.575 0.53
Williams 0.579 0.547
Draper 0.558 0.502
Zetterberg 0.571 0.552
Helm 0.55 0.505
Bertuzzi 0.541 0.517
Filppula 0.556 0.512
Ericsson 0.603 0.517
Kronwall 0.549 0.549
Franzen 0.601 0.588
Holmstrom 0.629 0.549

 

All but two Red Wing regulars from last season were worse without Lidstrom on the ice, including two of the best two-way players in the league in Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg.

The Wings have been near the top of all of the management efficiency metrics we've looked at thus far and the primary reason might be the ageless Swede patrolling the blueline.  Lidstrom is still driving on-ice results on the penalty kill, the power play, and at even strength and he's still pushing and pulling teammates along with him.  When normal players hit forty, they the develop into specialists - hovering on the side-boards on the power play or winning faceoffs and hurrying off of the ice, or hanging on to the bottom pairing for one more season.  Lidstrom turned 40 and remained among the top 5% of the league at his position.

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