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The Chicago Model? There's A Long Way Between Here And There.

After going through the Detroit Model and the Pittsburgh Model, Oiler management and fans have settled upon the Chicago Model as the right comparison for the current version of the Edmonton rebuild.  I've talked before about admiring the Nashville Model, which stresses efficiencies and superior management, but let's not put the cart before the horse.  Management is happy to point to Chicago as the guiding light for a rebuild, and happy to wait for it to come to them.  To paraphrase Steve Tambellini during an interview with the Columbus broadcast team, the season ticket holders did not want this fixed quickly; they want to wait for a rebuild.

Finish in the lottery a few times, get some big names, play them immediately, and voila!  Winning a Stanley Cup is simply a matter of being terrible for long enough. Draft them, and you will win.  There's a major flaw in this comparison though, and after the jump, we'll explore that flaw and this comparison.

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Kane and Toews broke into the league in 2007-2008, and it's that team fans are pointing towards as the first step towards a Cup.  Below is a comparison of the depth chart of that Blackhawks team with the current Oilers.

 

Chicago 07-08
Oilers 09-10
Patrick Sharp C Sam Gagner
Jonathan Toews C Shawn Horcoff
Robert Lang C Andrew Cogliano
Yanic Perreault C Colin Fraser
Tuomo Ruutu
L Dustin Penner
Rene Bourque L Taylor Hall
Craig Adams L Magnus Paajarvi
Ben Eager L Ryan Jones
Jason Williams
R Ales Hemsky
Patrick Kane R Jordan Eberle
Martin Lapointe R Gilbert Brule
Adam Burish R Zack Stortini
Duncan Keith D Ryan Whitney
Brent Seabrook D Kurtis Foster
Brent Sopel D Tom Gilbert
Cam Barker D Ladislav Smid
James Wisniewski D Theo Peckham
Dustin Byfuglien D Jim Vandermeer
Nikolai Khabibulin G Nikolai Khabibulin
Patrick Lalime G Devan Dubnyk

 

This Blackhawks team went 40-34-8 for 88 points.  Their overall goal differential was +4 and their even strength goal differential was also +4.  Chicago surrounded their young players like Kane and Toews with veterans up and down the lineup.  Lang, Perreault, Adams, Williams, Lapointe and the injured Martin Havlat all took on significant roles on that Hawks team.  Ruutu was later traded for the solid two-way forward, Andrew Ladd.  The defense was young but solid, and the goaltending was a problem, especially on the penalty kill.  Dale Tallon would overpay Cristobal Huet to try to fix this.  Even so, the 07-08 Blackhawks were significantly better than the Oilers are today.  There was a real team there, not a bus full of apprentices.

The Edmonton Oilers will not finish with 88 points this season.  The Oilers will not have a goal differential of +4 and won't be +4 at even strength, either.  If the measuring stick is that 07-08 Chicago team, the Oilers' stick is much shorter.

Two seasons later, the core of that Blackhawks team won the Stanley Cup. The cup-winning lineup is in a table below, alongside the Oilers projected lineup at that time.  I've attempted to match the projected Oilers to the Blackhawk that might be the best comparison, regardless of position.

Chicago 09-10
Oilers Projected '13
Jonathan Toews C Taylor Hall
Patrick Sharp C Sam Gagner
Dave Bolland C Shawn Horcoff
John Madden C
Dustin Byfuglien L
Troy Brouwer L
Kris Versteeg L Jordan Eberle
Colin Fraser L
Patrick Kane R Magnus Paajarvi
Marian Hossa R
Andrew Ladd R
Tomas Kopecky R
Duncan Keith D
Brent Seabrook D Tom Gilbert
Brent Sopel D
Brian Campbell D Ryan Whitney
Cam  Barker D
Niklas Hjalmarsson D Ladislav Smid
Cristobal Huet G Nikolai Khabibulin
Antti Niemi G Devan Dubnyk

 

Ales Hemsky and Dustin Penner, the two forwards who can play this game, aren't likely to re-sign.  So all the Oilers need to find between now and the 2013 playoffs are players approximating one of the best two-way forwards in the game in Hossa, a two-way killer in Ladd, a Norris Trophy-winning defenseman in Duncan Keith plus two more goal-scoring wingers like Brouwer and Byfuglien.  They've also got to add another top four defenseman.  That's all. 

Remember, if the three-year window on Hall, Paajarvi and Eberle's entry-level contracts closes without a Cup, winning becomes even more difficult when those three command second-contract money.  Managers with young core players leaving their ELCs must be ever more efficient and creative to put teams together.  Team-building isn't about consistently drafting in the lottery and selling mini-packs based on those picks.  If that were the case, the Thrashers would be the modern-day Canadiens.

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Your predictions assume Hemsky and Penner are gone for nothing and dont include the 2011 lottery pick which looks likely. Predicting what a lineup will look like in 3 years is tough to do – turnover is too high. 3 years ago one could have assumed Gagner would be making a ton – but he only makes about 2 million. If Hall, Eberle and MPS actually command 5+ million each then we have a good problem and one that Chicago just had.

Their investments in the farm and quality of scouting lead me to believe they should be able to add quality players from within. Back to 2006, many of those players from that run were acquired for spare parts and the rest came internally (from the last time we had an AHL team coincidentally). IMO the Chicago model is “suck to acquire stars”. Yes we don’t have Keith or Seabrock. But IMO the success of Oilers managements plan will depend on its ability to sign their core long term and fill the roster with quality NHL players. Their refusal to do so over the past year is something we can only hope is part of the suck strategy. Am I confident they can pull it off? One can only hope.

by puckdonkey on Oct 29, 2010 1:16 PM MDT reply actions  

I largely agree with Derek’s analysis here, but these are good points. If Hemsky and Penner aren’t re-signed (I hope that they stay, but don’t think it’s all that likely), the Oilers should be able to get something that will help them long-term for each one. The extra lottery pick is also a big help that the Blackhawks didn’t have. The big problem, to me, is that means the Oilers will have a lot of young talent but not much that’s established over the next few seasons. That means a significant waste of the surplus value that the three young players should provide. I think the Oilers would have been better off either trying to make this team as good as possible now, or holding Paajarvi and Hall back a season while they suck to add another young piece or two. Sucking and burning years off ELC’s seems like a very unhappy medium.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 29, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

PD – Scott took the words out of my keyboard. The Oilers are in Limbo right now.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 29, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

hey you can only take it 1 step at a time. as long as we see improvement as the year progresses and each year after

it is the best way, get a couple of guys each year in the draft. if it takes a year or 2 for them to break camp so what. once they are in the NHL and they start to click it works out.

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Oct 29, 2010 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

it is the best way, get a couple of guys each year in the draft. if it takes a year or 2 for them to break camp so what.

Because the Oilers only have control of the players for a finite amount of time.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 29, 2010 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting comps. Excepting maybe Penner and Hemsky, I think we’re on the raw end of it [caveat: haven’t checked the numbers]. It’s clear we don’t have the same depth. I would be thrilled if Paajarvi/Eberle grew into Kanes, but overall there are some real timing issues.

And even though NK shows up on both lists for the first chart (so looking like an even comp), I am skeptical that he’s the same player now. I’ve only caught the games on CBC, so haven’t seen enough of him, but it seems like there’s a stiffness that wasn’t there at the beginning of last year. Maybe that’s a year off, but herniated discs are a fairly serious injury. I’m not sure he can come to the same form.

If this is Tambo’s plan, I have a craps game tomorrow he might be interested in.

by eddy the lip on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM MDT reply actions  

A big key to the “Chicago Model” was finding the league’s most dominant defender in the 2nd round. At least EDM has the “overpaying goalie and 2nd pairing defensemen” aspect of the model down.

I’m not sure Edmonton will be following any model until that defense core shoes up and asides from Petry, there isn’t exactly a lot coming up that way.

by Corey Pronman on Oct 29, 2010 6:08 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, I know it’s management selling the fans on what they’re doing, but it’s disappointing that the fans are swallowing it.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 29, 2010 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

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