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He really shoved it up the backsides of all his critics.

by Adam Dyck on Oct 24, 2010 12:05 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Why is there so much backside talk when it comes to Edmonton prospects?

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by Derek Zona on Oct 24, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

So much backside talk? I thought it was mostly poop talk (related to backsides, I suppose), although maybe that’s just Ben.

Go Marincin! Not shabby for a rookie d-man, period. Oilers d-man depth is looking better than expected.

by Stephen's Beaven on Oct 24, 2010 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

he is on fire…

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Oct 24, 2010 1:03 PM MDT reply actions  

And in comparison, Nash’s statline in the AHL so far is 8 0-0-0 -2.

by Double DD on Oct 24, 2010 4:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Stop

The Oilers aquired Nash by trading 2 picks to move up in the ’07 draft. He was eventually flipped for the second round pick that the Oilers used to select Marincin.

So the real tally here is #21 (Nash) + #30 + #36 in exchange for the #46 (Marancin). It doesn’t matter how good or bad the actual picks have turned out. Drafting players is a crap shoot. Managing assets is not.

by Matt.N on Oct 24, 2010 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

no in actuality it is 30+36 for Marincin.
However if any of the players drafted at those positions turn out to be better than Marincin, then we lose the trade

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Oct 24, 2010 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Stop what? Enjoying that the Oilers might have actually ended up better off despite this whole Nash debacle. And you can’t combine both trades in assessing them. The first trade clearly gave up too much to jump 9 spots. But the second trade so far seems to be just fine since it looks the Oilers didn’t underestimate Nash’s pro value as was speculated at the time.

by Double DD on Oct 24, 2010 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

if any of the players drafted at those positions turn out to be better than Marincin, then we lose the trade

I disagree with this line of thinking Sum. If the Oil trade Hemsky for a 6th rounder and the pick becomes Datsyuk, is it a good trade?

by Matt.N on Oct 24, 2010 7:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah you are right.
My second sentence was directed at double DD. he was only comparing Nash and Marincin,
I was pointing him to look at 30 and 36 as well.

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Oct 24, 2010 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Coyotes picked Nick Ross and Joel Gistedt at those two picks. Last season, Ross had 2 assists in 47 games in the AHL and Gistedt had a 4.05 GAA and 0.874 SVPCT in the ECHL. But that’s fairly meaningless unless we know who the Oilers would have selected at those picks.

by Double DD on Oct 24, 2010 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I saw Marincin live a couple weeks ago and he was terrific. 1-1-2, +4, and played an outstanding game.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2010 10:26 PM MDT reply actions  

I’m really confused by Prince George right now. Blades castoff D Sena Acoltese is pretty much matching Marincin’s numbers, and he had never shown much of anything previously.

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by Bruce Peter on Oct 25, 2010 12:46 PM MDT reply actions  

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