Ryan Smyth, and Why We Were Right to Lose Him
February 27, 2007. 1,044 days ago. The day Ryan Smyth was traded to the New York Islanders in exchange for Robert Nilsson, Ryan O'Marra, and the first-round pick that became Alex Plante. The day the world ended. 1,044 days ago.
It's amazing the bitterness that some fans still attach to Ryan Smyth's departure. Bitterness directed not at Smyth but at then-ashen-faced-supremo Kevin Lowe, architect of the worst trade since Doug Weight (another one Lowe put together). The Oilers fandom has developed an orthodoxy surrounding the Smyth trade: that Lowe had decided in the summer of 2006 that he wasn't going to resign Smyth, that he had to budge only a small distance to keep Smyth an Oiler at the last gasp, and that when he traded Smyth to New York the little buck-toothed boy from Banff was utterly heart-broken at something he never could have expected. And that, since he's been gone, we've never been able to replace him.
Nonsense.
Maybe the Oilers should have kept Smyth. Maybe it would have been a good move both on and off the ice (although that's questionable). But it certainly wasn't Kevin Lowe coldheartedly deciding to axe the team's most popular star since Messier in the summer of 2006 and never looking back. There were very good reasons not to resign Smyth that summer and very good reasons not to give him his contract in 2007 when the trade was looming. Truth be told, at worst the trade has not hurt the Oilers very much and at best it's improved their long-term prospects significantly.
There are many reasons the Oilers are an awful hockey team right now and Kevin Lowe has to wear many of them, but Ryan Smyth is not one.
It is appropriate to begin at the beginning, with the infamous extension Smyth wasn't offered after our run to the Stanley Cup finals in 2006. More than a few Oilers got their paydays that summer, most notably pending unrestricted free agent Fernando Pisani, who channelled Glenn Anderson all spring and banked a three-year deal woth $2.5 million per season for his trouble. Ryan Smyth was the team's icon, a decent playoff performer (fifth in team points behind Chris Pronger, Shawn Horcoff, Ales Hemsky, and Pisani), and of course that beloved be-mulleted son-of-a-gun who'd wandered the desert with the rest of the team only to nearly taste his just reward in one improbable spring. Although Pisani's contract was up (as were the other big money men like Steve Staios) and Smyth's wasn't, it seemed like a no-brainer to give Smyth a raise on the post-24%-rollback $3.5 million Smyth had earned in 2005-06.
On the contrary, Lowe allowed Smyth to play out 2006-07 without an extension, not even talking about a new deal until the eleventh hour. These negotiations failed, of course, as did Smyth's playoff run as a rental with the Islanders, whereupon he signed with the Colorado Avalanche with an average annual salary of $6.25 million per season paying him until 2011-12.
We haven't stopped hearing about it since. Lowe has not gotten a shadow of the benefit of the doubt; condemned in all circles for the Pisani, Staios and, once upon a time, the Dwayne Roloson extensions but condemned for not extending the most expensive one of all. All three of those players were veterans who had experienced career years and whose contracts were up, and they were compensated out-of-line to their actual ability. Better to let Pisani walk, it is said, than spend $2.5 million on a third liner. But when Ryan Smyth is the subject of discussion, all the talk of career years suddenly vanishes.
Unlike Pisani, Smyth had a contract for 2006-07 so Lowe could afford to wait. Moreover, he had every reason to do so, as Smyth's 2005-06 season was entirely out of line with his career performance. With the Stanley Cup run, every Oiler core player was commanding a premium, as Pisani, Staios, and Roloson proved in Edmonton while Jaroslav Spacek and Mike Peca proved it elsewhere. Smyth had a number of individual factors inflating his value as well. Normally prone to nagging injuries, Smyth had played all eighty-two games in 2003-04, skipped the lockout, and then played a career-high ninety-nine games in 2005-06. He turned thirty-one the month he was traded, hardly his physical prime. He played an infamously high-impact style despite his size. No way, one might think, can he keep up that pace (and he hasn't).
It wasn't just durability. Smyth's 66 points in 75 regular-season games was good for 0.88 points per game in 2005-06. In 2003-04 he had been a mere 0.72. In a season of over seventy games, his previous career high came half a decade earlier when Doug Weight had found his inner Adam Oates and helped Smyth to an 0.85 PPG season. Through the 2005-06 season, Smyth had posted a career 0.69 points per game. He had shot 15.7% in 2005-06, compared to a previous career high of 14.7% when he was twenty years old, a 13.6% campaign in 2002-03, and a career average of 11.6%. He also struck more than usual on the Chris Pronger-augmented power play, scoring nineteen goals with the man advantage compared to eight in 2003-04 (although his career high came way back in 1996-97, when he somehow buried twenty goals a man up).
Ryan Smyth had a far better season than his underlying numbers allowed us to expect, and his unusually strong teammates had doubtless dragged him up (he was the fourth-best scorer on the 2005-06 Oilers in the regular season, and the three players above him were all returning). Career highs on the power play and in shooting percentage made him look better than he really was. His stock had never been higher, but the Oilers were certain to get worse in 2006-07 with the departures of Spacek, Pronger, Peca, and Sergei Samsonov, and the return to historical form of a few others. Signing Ryan Smyth in the summer of 2006 would have been buying at the very top of the market, the very practice Lowe's other extensions were condemned for. The Oilers deteriorated, for the most part, exactly like you'd expect them to. Ales Hemsky went from a 0.95 points per game to 0.83, Shawn Horcoff plummeted from 0.92 to 0.64, and Jarret Stoll fell from 0.83 to 0.76 in a concussion-tormented season.
Smyth was the only exception to the otherwise-ironclad rule. Was that Kevin Lowe's sin? Failing to realize that an improbable career year would be followed up by an even more improbable career year that Smyth had never even hinted at approaching in over a decade of NHL hockey? His points-per-game as an Oiler in 2006-07 was an even 1.00. He shot 19.3%, and you shouldn't need me to tell you those were both career highs. He was the best Oiler that year by miles on a team that didn't have much to cheer about. If Lowe made a mistake, it was not trading Smyth when he was lighting it up the most and getting a Keith Tkachuk-level return, instead settling for a question mark in Robert Nilsson, an interrobang in Ryan O'Marra, and an unknown in a first-round pick.
But playing the percentages and betting that Smyth would return to his usual form on a bad team? How could Kevin Lowe be blamed for that? If Smyth had posted, say, thirty-three points before the deadline in 2006-07 and signed for the $3.5 million-ish per season he'd have earned with that, he'd look like a genius and have a solid top six winger and face of the franchise locked up at a reasonable price. Instead he lost his gamble and declined the chance to lock up a solid top six winger for elite money.
Ryan Smyth, after all, had always done well by the Oilers financially. In 2006-07, he was tied for the eighty-eighth highest-paid player in the NHL, on a level with veterans like Teemu Selanne, Keith Tkachuk, Doug Weight, Shane Doan, Chris Drury, and Maxim Afinogenov despite never having had unrestricted free agency. In 1998 as a restricted free agent Smyth had actually held out from training camp, eventually nearly tripling his salary of the previous year. His next contract was yet another nigh-threefold increase, and raises of 40%, 20%, and 14% followed even as his play stagnated.
Smyth was only too happy to talk about the "hometown discount" he wasn't going to take, but he had never taken one in the first place. His contract had always been in line with players of his age and performance. 2007 was his first crack at unrestricted free agency and he had exploited it to the fullest. Smyth certainly never cheated the Oilers and he always played his heart out, but the Oilers were hardly exploiting a naive little mountain boy for ten years.
The last objection to the Oilers trading of Smyth is what the team has become since he left. A crummy team before the deadline in 2006-07 nearly became a lottery team after, and a fluke run at a playoff spot in 2007-08 was followed by the misery of 2008-09 and the nadir we are enduring today, where loser points against the Phoenix Coyotes are cause for celebration. Robert Nilsson actually outscored Ryan Smyth in the first year after the trade but since then Smyth has been pulling away, while O'Marra has suffered injury and been a disappointment and Plante is too young to have made his mark. But the Oilers actually replaced Ryan Smyth quite effectively and for, when you think about it, a reasonable price.
His replacement, granted, cost the Oilers a first-, second-, and third-round pick, but in context that's not so bad. The Oilers got a first-rounder from the Islanders in the Smyth trade. Robert Nilsson, at the time, was certainly worth a second-rounder, and Ryan O'Marra was at least worth a third, so we can call that, at minimum, even. Smyth's cap hit is $6.5 million per year, his replacement's is $4.25 million. Smyth's two seasons with the Avalanche featured points-per-games of 0.67 and 0.77 against his replacement's 0.57 and 0.47, but the Avalanche were a better team, the replacement was healthier, and is a better all-round player besides (Smyth was the seventh-leading scorer on the 2007-08 Avalanche, his Oiler counterpart was fourth). While Smyth has experienced a renaissance playing with some excellent young players in Los Angeles, the Oiler has managed the same pace playing with Gilbert Brule and Sam Gagner. Also, his replacement is bigger, stronger, and five and a half years younger.
If you haven't figured out who yet, you haven't been reading us long enough.
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I have always been a supporter of Ryan Smyth trade. Too bad the return did not pan out the way we would have liked
by SumOil on Jan 6, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well-written, well-defended, thought out…
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by Derek Zona on Jan 6, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
“it begins again…”
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but in all seriousness, this is some nice work. I miss the mullet and hope he somehow retires here, but it was the right thing to do at the time. Be that as it may, I still feel that we might be cursed as a result of that trade.
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by shepso on Jan 6, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love this kind of post
At the time (and now, actually), I thought the trade was defensible for both parties, in part for the valuations you listed. It ended up “even” by one definition for the Oilers, and while the same type of evaluation can’t be figured for the Islanders buying an expiring asset, it’s hard to price what they did buy: a potential playoff run and an negotiating rights to a UFA.
For the cost of a 1st and some assets the Isles new staff didn’t believe in (they decided O’Marra wasn’t it, and there were familiar reasons why they were ready to part with Nilsson), they took a shot at a free agent they’d have no chance of wooing if they couldn’t give him the “Come visit Utah” tourism bureau experience first.
He’d never admit it, but I’ve always held a pet theory that part of Snow’s motivation was to prove he could play with the big boys. It was his first year as GM, everyone scoffed at his ascent right after Wang’s “committee” sent Neil Smith packing after 40 days, and this was a way to show long-tortured fans that the club was serious about making a play.
The trade that still kills me is Grebeshkov.
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by Dominik on Jan 7, 2010 12:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Considering how the Isles did in the playoffs, this trade was really close to being completely brilliant for them. As it was, they didn’t do too bad – trading futures for the present isn’t usually a bad idea in hockey.
On the other hand, looking at the Isles now, you’re telling me Bobby Nilsson wouldn’t look good somewhere in that lineup?
by Benjamin Massey on Jan 7, 2010 7:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m telling you that the environment around him meant Nilsson wouldn’t even be at the modest stage he’s at now if he’d stayed on the Island. Don’t know if he needed the shock of a trade or just the patience that most prospects need, but the Isles decided he wasn’t part of the future. As with O’Marra, once that was the case, I didn’t mind them taking a moonshot with them.
There was some baggage left over from the regime that drafted those guys, so I think the current staff didn’t like what they inherited. They’re hoarding the prospects they’ve hand-picked since then (which I guess most regimes do).
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by Dominik on Jan 7, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I certainly take the more “traditional” Ryan Smyth view. I’ll say up front that I enjoy watching Ryan Smyth play hockey and now cheer for the Smyths in the playoffs since his teams usually make it and the Oilers… not so much.
Nonetheless, I think there are plenty of reasons to consider the Ryan Smyth situation botched from the perspective of management. Firstly, and most importantly, they waited too damn long to make a decision. If the plan is to trade Smyth, that’s fine, but my understanding is that this trade was thrown together at the last minute and that there wasn’t enough time to extract maximum value. The second reason, related to the first is the lack of a consistent plan. If you’re going to trade Smyth that’s fine but why wouldn’t you also trade Petr Sykora for futures as well? That definitely irked me.
On the other hand spending the money on bottom roster players instead of top roster players first is crazy. I’m sure Smyth was happy for Moreau and Staios when they signed their big extensions but it didn’t do wonders for the Oilers negotiating position. We’ll leave Pisani alone since he was UFA during the summer of 2006, but if they intended to sign him Smyth should absolutely have been signed before Moreau and Staios (unless these two were willing to take great deals for the Oilers). If Ethan Moreau – who was sitting out the season with a separated shoulder – is worth 2.0M to play LW for the next four years, how much is Smyth worth? It’s going to be a high number.
On to Smyth as a player. I will grant right off the hop that Smyth was and remains an injury risk. It’s definitely true. But you use this to write things like this:
“In 2003-04 he had been a mere 0.72. In a season of over seventy games, his previous career high came half a decade earlier when Doug Weight had found his inner Adam Oates and helped Smyth to an 0.85 PPG season.”
Or in other words, after 2003-04 the previous time Smyth played 70+ games in a season he managed .85 point per game. Here are his PPG and games played in the regular season from 2000-01 to 2005-06:
2000-01 – 82 GP, 0.85 PPG
2001-02 – 61 GP, 0.82 PPG
2002-03 – 66 GP, 0.92 PPG
2003-04 – 82 GP, 0.72 PPG
2005-06 – 75 GP, 0.88 PPG
Interesting that you seem to look at 2003-04 as his established level of ability when it’s his worst performing season by a fair margin of the last five before his contract year in 2006-07. To be honest, that PPG number in 2005-06 looks pretty well within the range of expectations. Maybe he would have wanted a “Cup” premium but I don’t think the Oilers would have been paying a premium for unsustainable performance if he’d been extended in the summer of 2006.
Now let’s take a look at salaries. This is what Ryan Smyth did statistically in terms of point scoring, and then his salary as a percentage of the league average, beginning in 1996-97:
1996-97 – 82 GP 39-22-61, 49.9%
1997-98 – 65 GP 20-13-33, 27.0%
1998-99 – 71 GP 13-18-31, 69.8%
1999-00 – 82 GP 28-26-54, 49.8%
2000-01 – 82 GP 31-39-70, 125.4%
2001-02 – 61 GP 15-35-50, 153.7%
2002-03 – 66 GP 27-34-61, 169.0%
2003-04 – 82 GP 23-36-59, 188.5%
2005-06 – 75 GP 36-30-66, 239.7%
2006-07 – 53 GP 31-22-53, 204.8%
Now, that looks like a pretty darn good deal for the Oilers to me. The hold-out year that you mentioned above he had scored 39 and then 20 goals at the age of 20 and 21 in the NHL and he needed to hold out to get 60% of league average over two seasons. Now, maybe this was just the nature of restricted free agency, but that doesn’t look at all like he was gouging the team to me. In fact considering he needed to hold out to get that contract… 2005-06 and 2006-07 were the two seasons where he was able to gain some ground relative to the market since the big spending teams weren’t able to spend as much (the average salary went down significantly after the lockout). If by “hometown discount” Ryan Smyth means that he earned less playing in Edmonton than he could have elsewhere over the first portion of his career I think he has a very strong case.
On to the replacement! I have said it before but I will reiterate again my opinion on the Penner offer sheet. It was a risk. For many general managers it would have been an acceptable risk but given the state of the Oilers at that time it was a foolish risk. The Oilers are very lucky they didn’t end up passing Anaheim a lottery pick that season. I don’t think it’s at all fair to equate New York’s first rounder in the 2007 draft with Edmonton’s in the 2008 draft. It was known that the 2007 draft was considered weak and the pick was almost certain to be in the 10-20 range. In 2008, the draft was considered strong and the Oilers’ pick could easily have ended up in the top ten. If the Oilers had signed Smyth to a medium-term contract (say three years) then I think the Penner deal makes more sense because there’s a lot less risk and you’re explicitly telling Penner that he’s being groomed to fill a first line role as the years go on. Plus, you’re putting yourself in a good position in case Smyth gets injured. How they actually did it? Very, very risky.
And lastly… oy vey a long comment… the optics of the whole thing were just terrible. You trade the most popular Oiler since Messier on the day you’re retiring Messier’s jersey. Hilariously awful. I think it was Tyler who summed that day up nicely: celebrate the past, point the fans to the future and screw the present.
by Scott Reynolds on Jan 7, 2010 9:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I used “points per game over a certain number of games played” to gauge his overall effectiveness. A good points-per-game number when you’re missing sixteen to twenty-one games a year isn’t nearly as relevant.
Since Smyth has never scored 39 goals again in his life and was a restricted free agent (a young restricted free agent, at that), those salaries were pretty close to on the money. You notice all the offer sheets he didn’t get? Apparently the league didn’t think his compensation was way off, or at least not off enough to be worth the relatively minor draft pick price.
by Benjamin Massey on Jan 7, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize it’s imporant to play in the games but I think your piece makes it sound like his performance in 2005-06 was very unlikely which I don’t really think it was. Both the PPG and GP numbers are in the range of what he’d done in the past. If you take the average of both numbers over the last four seasons you’d expect him to play 73 games and score 0.83 PPG in 2005-06. He didn’t exactly blow those numbers away.
I’m pretty sure that, pre-lockout, the compensation for RFA’s was much larger than it is now though I’m not sure exactly what it would have cost to sign Smyth for a league average salary for a couple of seasons. I know the Oilers got 2 first round picks from the Blues signing Shayne Corson in 1995 for 5 years at about 7M. So the compensation was certainly larger. But the thing I like least about the “well why didn’t he get an offer sheet” argument is that NHL teams haven’t used offer sheets very often. Plenty of guys probably should be signed to offer sheets but aren’t. Why else do you have Colby Armstrong signing for 2.4M and Tyler Kennedy for .725M during the summer. These guys should be able to beat those numbers in the RFA market (especially Kennedy). The fact that these guys didn’t get an offer sheet doesn’t change the fact that they’re likely underpaid based on their performance.
by Scott Reynolds on Jan 7, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Lowe made a mistake, it was not trading Smyth when he was lighting it up the most and getting a Keith Tkachuk-level return, instead settling for a question mark in Robert Nilsson, an interrobang in Ryan O’Marra, and an unknown in a first-round pick.
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Det. Hardass: Where’s the girl?
Sleazebag: I don’t know nothin’.
Det. Hardass gets out his gun.
Det. Hardass: You sure about that?
Sleazebag: Hey now hold on a second, man. I didn’t—
Det. Hardass: WHERE IS SHE?!
Det. Hardass fires the gun two inches from Sleazebag’s ear.
Sleazebag: Alright! Alright! We’ve got her in an abandoned warehouse on 32nd and McMillan! Just don’t kill me! It wasn’t my idea!
Det. Hardass: You better hope she’s still alright, for your sake.
Det. Hardass gestures threateningly with his gun then holsters. Sleazebag whimpers. Scene.
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by Doogie2K on Jan 7, 2010 9:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
But playing the percentages and betting that Smyth would return to his usual form on a bad team? How could Kevin Lowe be blamed for that?
What I find interesting is the parallels between the Ryan Smyth situation and the Shawn Horcoff situation. Both were career Oilers with roots in western Canada. Both were not the most supremely talented players but were renowned for playing their asses off. Both were veterans who keyed the ’06 Cup run. Both were looking for the career contract after years of delivering excellent value for money on (arguably) home town discounts.
Lowe offered Smyth long term at $5.4 MM and famously came up $100 K light. Two years later he offered Horcoff long-term at $5.5 MM and a deal was struck.
What surprises me most is how some of the same people who excoriate Lowe for not offering Smyth a little more or for not offering him a deal early enough in his UFA season, also excoriate Lowe for doing the opposite with Horcoff. It seemed to me that after the Smyth fiasco and the resultant negative fallout in the press, the public and the standings, Lowe wasn’t going to leave that to chance again with the next best chance for a lifetime Oiler.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 7, 2010 3:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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