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Oilers v. Blackhawks - Mark 8:14-21

Chicago Blackhawks at Edmonton Oilers, Jan 26, 2010 7:30 PM MST


Quinn's players had completely forgotten how to win games.  They carried with them the memory of only one win in their last eighteen games.  "You must be careful," Quinn warned them.  "You must watch diligently the errors of Strudwick and the offensive zone penalties of Moreau." 

The players got together to discuss what Quinn had said and they were all saying, "Quinn is upset because we're losing and those two are leading the Race for the Golden Rooster; maybe he wants us to Stone them." ("Stoning" had become a locker room tradition where Ryan Stone was sent to play practical jokes on underperforming players).

Quinn became aware of this discussion and so he asked them, "Why are you talking about Stoning and that ridiculous Golden Rooster award?  How is it that you still don't understand even the most obvious hockey cliches?  Are you hearts really as hard as ston.... rocks?  Even though you have eyes, it's like you're blind!  You guys have ears, but you can't hear!  When the season was young and we had five wins, how many more wins than necessary for the playoffs did I say we would have?"

"Twelve," they all replied, "but that seems very unlikely at this poin..."

"AND!" he interrupted, "Later in the season, when we were struggling and had nine wins, how many more wins than necessary for the playoffs did I say we would have?"

"Seven" they replied, "but once again that seems very unlik..."

"Do you not still not understand?  I play Strudwick in the last minute, I don't match lines, I play Khabibulin with no rest until he breaks and do you still not understand?  What is a win my friends?  What are we trying to achieve?"

 

Chicago Blackhawks (35-13-4) @ Edmonton Oilers (16-28-6)

Rexall Place, 7:30 P.M. MST
Television: TSN

More analysis after the jump...

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Visiting Team Scouting Report: The Chicago Blackhawks are good by any measure.  The salary cap could make it difficult to keep this team together but the Collective Bargaining Agreement needs to be renegotiated after next season so, if I were the Blackhawks, I'd try to keep as much of the team in tact as I could for just one more year after this one.  With six contracts running through the 2013-2014 season (Kane, Toews, Bolland, Hossa, Campbell and Keith) the club is extremely well-positioned for a "wage rollback" which is clearly a possibility.  They would also benefit from the players getting a raise in negotiations (in terms of percentage of revenue) since it would drive the cap up.  It's very likely that after next season there will be cap relief, one way or another.  This team could be good for a very long time.

And about that.  They're fantastic.  The Blackhawks lead the league in shot differential, clocking in at +9.6 shots per game.  Both of their special teams are ranked in the top ten in the league and their goal differential on special teams as a whole is +19.  They play in the much tougher Western Conference yet have a better goal differential and points percentage than any team in the East.  Although they trail the Sharks in the standings they're a much better team than San Jose at EV and have superior depth at every position (like Andrew Ladd!) and lead that season series two victories to one (including one 7-2 blowout).  They are absolutely the favourites to win the Stanley Cup.  And I hope the fans enjoy every minute of it.  Any team that endured over forty years of Bill Wirtz (and booed his memorial!) deserves it.  

 

Expected Starting Lineups:

Chicago Blackhawks (35-13-4):

Brouwer - Toews - Kane
Ladd - Sharp - Hossa
Versteeg - Madden - Byfuglien
Eager - Fraser - Kopecky

Keith - Seabrook
Hjalmarsson - Campbell
Sopel - Barker

Huet

 

Edmonton Oilers (16-28-6):

Penner - Gagner - Cogliano
Moreau - Horcoff - Pisani
O'Sullivan - Potulny -
Nilsson
Jacques - Pouliot - Stortini

Souray - Gilbert

Grebeshkov - Visnovsky
Strudwick -
Chorney

Deslauriers

 

 

Behind The Numbers:

  • The "Ryan Smyth Deathmarch" Oilers: 2-16-1.  The current "AHL Goaltending" Oilers: 1-15-2.  We made it!  We made it!  We. Are! The!! Worst!!!!  Hmmmm.  If I remember correctly OT losses and SO losses now count for "winless" streaks but not for "losing" streaks.  And that's pretty lame because if they didn't we'd be trying to tie the franchise record of 11 straight losses tonight.  I guess we'll have to settle on chasing the winless streak record: The "Shame Corson" Oilers: 14-game winless streak  The current "AHL Goaltending" Oilers: 10-game winless streak. Next five games: Hawks, Blues, Flames, Canes, Flyers.  I believe!
  • Ladislav Smid will be playing in his 250th career game this evening.  After tonight he'll need only 702 more games and 221 more points to match the career of Tommy Albelin.
  • With a couple of points last time out Sam Gagner has moved into the top fifty scorers all time with the Edmonton Oilers.  He's currently in a three-way tie for 49th spot with Raffi Torres and Martin Gelinas and only one point behind Marty Reasoner.
  • Cristobal Huet is a good goaltender.  From 2005-06 to 2007-08 he put up save percentage seasons of .929, .916 and .920.  This year he's been significantly outplayed by backup Antti Niemi (.925 to .905) and he hasn't much to write him about last season either.  The moral of this story is to never - e-e-e-e-e-ver - spend really big money on a goalie unless you are absolutely certain that he's among the top two or three goalies in the league.
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I think the only way we see another rollback is if we see the NHL give in more on free agency. From 27 or 7 years service to 25 or 5.

It’s not a battle the players will give up lightly this time. Unlike the last lockout when the PA came out with it as a counter to a salary cap (which the NHL turned it into a negotiating starting point), they won’t make the same offer this time.

by dawgbone98 on Jan 26, 2010 2:36 PM MST reply actions  

If I remember correctly, didn’t the deathmarch Oilers beat that 11-gamer? Or did that also include an OTL?

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by Doogie2K on Jan 26, 2010 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

You are correct Doogie. They had a 12-game losing streak disqualified by an OTL. So I guess we need two more losses (any kind!) to tie the longest losing streak.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Questions for Gary Bettman

Q: When is a loss not a Loss?

GB: When it’s a tie.

Q: I thought there were no more ties.

GB: There’s a Winner every game.

Q: A Winner without a Loser? Logic error! Logic error!

GB: “Logic”? WTF is this “logic”?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 26, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

The moral of this story is to never – e-e-e-e-e-ver – spend really big money on a goalie unless you are absolutely certain that he’s among the top two or three goalies in the league.

Yep.

Yep, that’s about it.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jan 26, 2010 3:43 PM MST reply actions  

From 2005-06 to 2007-08 he put up save percentage seasons of .929, .916 and .920. This year he’s been significantly outplayed by backup Antti Niemi (.925 to .905) and he hasn’t much to write him about last season either. The moral of this story is to never – e-e-e-e-e-ver – spend really big money on a goalie unless you are absolutely certain that he’s among the top two or three goalies in the league.

I’m not sure I’m buying this argument, which is on the verge of being accepted as conventional wisdom around the ‘sphere. There is a range of performance at ALL positions, not just between the pipes. Lots o’ guys making big dough who don’t live up to the cap hit on an annual basis.

Case in point:

Season : P/G
-—————-
2005-06: 1.21
2006-07: 1.17
-—————-
2007-08: 0.91
2008-09: 0.86
2009-10: 0.75

… with the line drawn at exactly that point where the player signed an 8-year, $52 MM contract and changed clubs. Obviously he was signed to be among the top point producers in the league, and obviously that hasn’t happened, even before accounting for injuries. (I’m just sticking to percentages with emphasis on a single statsitic since that’s how people seem to judge goalies.)

Arguably, this player’s team would have been better served to sink a little more of its player budget into goaltending which has been a black hole of suck on this club since forever.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 26, 2010 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what you’re getting at Bruce. I’m arguing that it was a bad idea to sign Huet based on his track record despite some pretty good save percentage seasons previous to his time in Chicago. Are you trying to argue that Huet is actually better than the Sv% numbers in Chicago suggest?

With the team situations, I don’t think Huet has that out since he’s been clearly outperformed in both of his Chicago seasons by both Sv% and GAA so I’m not sure where you’re going with that point.

And say what you will about Daniel Briere (and there’s plenty to say, that was a really stupid contract for Philadelphia; not sure why you’re bringing him up here unless it’s to say teams can spend foolishly at every position which is obviously true), there’s not much chance of him getting outplayed by a guy with a $900,000 price tag. That phenomenon is pretty well unique to goaltending.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Claude Giroux is pretty close to Briere’s numbers for $822 K.

Anyway, this is a discussion for another day. I need to think about it and do some research before I make any more of a fool of myself. But until I do that I’m not buying the groupthink that there’s anything special about the G position w.r.t. being a salary sinkhole.

I will agree it’s a lot tougher to hide a bad contract there.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 26, 2010 11:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Ladislav Smid will be playing in his 250th career game this evening.

… or would be, if he was playing. The Chorney recall is a sure sign Ladi’s not ready.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 26, 2010 4:17 PM MST reply actions  

You are, of course, correct my good man. I remembered to get it right for the lineup and then plum forgot when I noticed he was sitting on 249 GP.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 4:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Btw, I’m going to this game tonight, sitting with Woodguy down behind the Oilers’ net for two periods which seems like a real good spot to stake out. Should be interesting to see the Hawks, and simply to observe two clubs on such different planes. (The Hawks’ plane is soaring like an eagle, whereas ours has stalled and spun out.)

If Chicago wins outright tonight they will have Double the Oilers’ 38 points.

I’ll have a game review / autopsy up sometime overnight.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 26, 2010 4:40 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t agree with him all the time (or very often at all, for that matter) but I do like the fact that Brownlee is a career ink-stained wretch taking a chance on the blogosphere.

That said, as far as JDD is concerned…. suh-WING and a miss.

by edm_euler on Jan 26, 2010 8:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Pouliot

Dandy shift and pass by Pouliot there.

C’mon kid – win yourself a job.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 7:45 PM MST reply actions  

question...

why do you guys have the camera’s facing the pen. boxes instead of facing the benches like the rest of the league?

fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!

by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jan 26, 2010 8:11 PM MST reply actions  

The cameras are in the right place, the benches are on the wrong side.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 8:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I seem to remember one announcer saying Rexall was the last building in the League with the benches on the wrong side of the ice. Is that right? I know for a lot of years the benches in the old buildings faced each other, but it was changed, presumably so each team would have the same long and short changes.

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by Doogie2K on Jan 27, 2010 6:16 AM MST up reply actions  

ok...

and why is that?. i’m just confused and it looks weird to me

fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!

by soupy's spin-o-rama on Jan 26, 2010 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

This game is just horrible!

by HF4L on Jan 26, 2010 8:55 PM MST reply actions  

Better late than never! Just getting to the game now and it seems that the Oilers are performing as expected. Any "high"lights so far?

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:31 PM MST reply actions  

No. Pouliot has been nice though.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 9:32 PM MST up reply actions  

They don’t look so bad so far. A goal from Potulny and now a penalty drawn by the dregs line :)

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:33 PM MST reply actions  

Visnovsky was all over the DZ on that shift. The rest of the four-man unit seemed to adjust pretty well but I don’t imagine that’s how they have it drawn up.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:36 PM MST reply actions  

Have they been hard-matching Horc’s line against Kane so far? Are they doing any matching on D?

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:40 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah – Horcoff is against Kane with Souray and Gilbert, thought the d pairing is not matched as hard as it could have been.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

How are they doing? They’ve apparently got a goal but Kane’s line has two. Has it been pretty close or are they getting hammered?

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

They are badly outmatched. Badly.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s not 27-10-83 out there.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotcha. I’ll assume a big part of the -14 shot clock is coming with those guys on the ice.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:57 PM MST up reply actions  

O’Sullivan has done some nice things in the OZ in the last few minutes. I noticed he got a point on Potulny’s goal as well. I’m guessing he’s having a pretty good game.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:46 PM MST reply actions  

Eh – he was lazy as hell in the first period.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yikes. I know he negated the icing but those “races to the puck” are pretty scary. I think I’d like to see them institute no-touch icing.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:54 PM MST reply actions  

Fun save by Huet there.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:55 PM MST reply actions  

Alright! Only three more losses for a new team record for winlessness! That’s going to be a big game against the Hurricanes… history on the line!

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 9:58 PM MST reply actions  

I watched Quinn’s post-game on the Oilers website and the man looked like he was going to eat his own face out of frustration.

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 26, 2010 10:26 PM MST reply actions  

He should eat Tambellini’s face. With fava beans and a nice chianti.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 26, 2010 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Having an old friend for dinner?

Back now from the game, and whoever said “badly outmatched” pretty much nailed it.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 26, 2010 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

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