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As per Dan Tencer

This almost seals the Cogliano - Gagner - Stone line.

From commentor RossCreek below:

Jacques — Horcoff — Hemsky
O’Sullivan — Comrie — Stone
Penner — Brule — Cogliano
Moreau — Gagner — Stortini

This might make sense to some of the baseball fans around here:

"Spahn and Sain and pray for rain."

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The lines from practice according to OilersNation:
Jacques — Horcoff — Hemsky
O’Sullivan — Comrie — Stone
Penner — Brule — Cogliano
Moreau — Gagner — Stortini

Gagner will start on the 4th line as per Pat Quinn from Dustin Nielson’s twitter.

by RossCreek on Sep 29, 2009 12:44 PM MDT reply actions  

I can’t…

Trouble ahead.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Sep 29, 2009 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

The phrase “snowball’s chance in hell” springs unbidden to mind.

by Benjamin Massey on Sep 29, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is it too early to start a preview of the lottery-level prospects in the 2010 draft?

by Benjamin Massey on Sep 29, 2009 12:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Hemsky Injured

From Gregor’s twitter…
…Hemsky left practice early with a sore groin. Should be ready by Saturday but it is a concern!

by RossCreek on Sep 29, 2009 1:09 PM MDT reply actions  

Also, Horcoff is out a couple months with what Quinn called “a self-inflicted gunshot thing”.

by Benjamin Massey on Sep 29, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow. Thanks for that.

A posse ad esse.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and OilersNation.

by Jonathan Willis on Sep 30, 2009 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nilsson for Smithson? Do it!

O’Sullivan — Comrie — Stone

No way Stone stays in the Top 9
Too Slow

Brule?
See folks, anyone can make it;
AHL 3rd Liner to NHL 3rd liner
in 2 short weeks
[minus the summer]

by Mr DeBakey on Sep 29, 2009 1:44 PM MDT reply actions  

I’d do Nilsson for Smithson too.

by RossCreek on Sep 29, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Smithson or Ward. ACTUAL NHL 3rd and 4th liners. Not…Stone and Brule.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Sep 29, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who would have guessed at TC that we’d have new wingers on our 1st and “2nd” lines, and neither of them would be named Nilsson, Cogliano, or Gagner? Or Penner or Pisani. Or Schremp for that matter.

JFJ, Stone, Brule, Stortini … for sure we got at least one plugger per line. I don’t mind that in principle, but I’m not sure that JFJ and Stone have the chops to play first and “second” line. All in the name of balance I guess (a.k.a. a line-up full of holes).

by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 29, 2009 1:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Really don’t like the looks of that fourth line. It’s a mismatch and a mishmash. Gagner’s a possession guy, Stortini is a cycle guy, and Moreau is a do-it-yourselfer. In theory they use Gagner’s puckhandling skills to get it through the neutral zone and then go for the dump-and-thump, but that’s not Sam’s nature the way it was Brodziak’s. The line would have a much better chance of working if they swapped out Moreau for Penner.

by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 29, 2009 1:57 PM MDT reply actions  

The whole team is going to get run over.

Jacques – Horcoff – Hemsky only makes sense if you are going to use Penner with O’Sullivan to protect Comrie and make a line that can beat second minutes.

Stone and Comrie on a second minutes line is…there are words for it and they all start with ‘F’.

The new third minutes center didn’t face tough comp in the AHL and couldn’t score and he’s out there with your second best wing and some wheels that bleed chances.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Sep 29, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the biggest problem is Brule. If this team were in perfect health this plan wouldn’t look nearly as poor since it’s possible (though not likely) that they would replace Brule with Pouliot and Stone with Pisani. That doesn’t look so bad to me.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 29, 2009 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

The biggest problem is Brule is in the top 9, Stone and Comrie are in the top 6, Khabibulin is the goaltender and no one can kill penalties.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Sep 29, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I really don’t think it’s fair to discuss this team as having a top 6 or 9. What they have is a top forward pairing and then three “B” lines that will be fighting for ice time with one another. I think they’re going to roll lines. It’s not conventional (anymore) and probably won’t work against teams with two good lines but it will be fun to see how it develops throughout the year.

As for specifics, if Comrie and Stone aren’t playing well they’re the fourth line and get to sit. It’s only a problem if we have two lines getting bombed at once (which is a distinct possibility). I don’t like Brule because I don’t think he’s a competent NHLer but if we had Pouliot (or Brodziak or even Nilsson) skating in his place then the plan wouldn’t look as bad.

As for the PK, it’s a problem but hopefully Stone can hold the fort until help comes back in the form of Pisani, Pouliot or an unlikely trade. Khabibulin will probably be alright in goal this year as far as performance. It’s the times we see someone else in goal that I worry about.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 29, 2009 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

The issue is much more that Stortini is garbage, Moreau is garbage, and Gagner is young garbage.

Not that I’m pessimistic or anything.

by Benjamin Massey on Sep 29, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey, careful with the anti-Zorg comments! Pessimism is one thing, but that’s asking for trouble.

by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 29, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

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