The Prodigal Son (and his dad) Return to Edmonton - Comrie is Back
In a not-so-stunning move, the Edmonton Oilers have signed Mike Comrie to a 1 year contract for $1.125 million.
Jonathan Willis took a look at Comrie by the numbers here, and it doesn't paint a pretty picture. He's certainly not the veteran tough minutes center that the Oilers need, and if he struggled in the East, he will get steamrolled in the West.
"Aside from his powerplay ability, Comrie can also put up points 5-on-5, although he hasn't for the past two years; I tend to think his even-strength results vary greatly depending on the calibre of player he's lined up against. He needs relatively sheltered minutes..."
Clearly, he's not the answer at center, so might he be playing somewhere else? Bob Stauffer is reporting that Comrie has been likely targeted to play left wing for the Oilers. Comrie is unable to play a tough minutes role, so he won't play with Fernando Pisani or Ales Hemsky. That leaves Sam Gagner's left wing, which means the candidates for Gagner's wing now include Dustin Penner, Comrie, Robert Nilsson, Andrew Cogliano, and Patrick O'Sullivan. There are four extremely small, non-physical forwards already on the team and circumstances dictate that they have to play the same minutes as Comrie. Toss in Marc Pouliot and Gilbert Brule and signing Mike Comrie is like buying a second or third Vespa. It's an uncomfortable non-luxury that makes no sense. The team has had size and grit issues for a few seasons, and adding Comrie only highlights that issue. Early reaction has been "this signifies a trade", but sending out a small forward only gets the team back to where they were last year - small and lacking toughness - but with a new Vespa, rather than the old one.
Comrie's even strength PTS/60 over the last two years would rank 11th among regular forwards on last year's Oilers, just barely in front of Liam Reddox. His power play PTS/60 over the last two years would rank 8th among regular forwards. His faceoffs skills are an enormous downgrade from those of Kyle Brodziak. He's not physical. He can't kill penalties. He's not a locker room leader. He wore out his Edmonton welcome long ago. On almost any level, this deal does not make sense.
Mike Comrie doesn't fit on the Edmonton Oilers.
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What kind of reception will he get from the fans?
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I have no idea. Consider that this is an arena that boos Shawn Horcoff…
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One thing about his last two years (which were thoroughly unimpressive): At least the end of 2007-08 and all of 08-09 you can couch with a hip injury and the resulting summer surgery and rehab. Post-surgery, last year he never looked “right” even by modest early 07-08 standards.
Which I guess either means you have a rehabbed Vespa who doesn’t fit … or a damaged Vespa who doesn’t fit. (Not sure if having Duff riding the Vespa makes it look any better.)
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Are you going to sit there and tell us that the Oilers can’t use a proven 20 – 30 goal scorer? How many did the Oilers have on their roster last year exactly?
Souray and Hemsky if memory serves me right. 1 lousy forward exceeded 20 goals. Our forwards couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat in the middle of the pacific last year.
Yes he’s small. So what. He wants to be an Oiler and he probably has a chip on his shoulder and has added motivation to prove people wrong.
I’m not expecting him to set the world on fire but he could actually lead the team in goals scored this season. After all this group didn’t exactly set the bar too high last year.
It’s not like he was brought in to be a checker so someone in the top 6 is going to lose their job if there is no subsequent trade to purge the extra bodies.
He fits…He probably fits better than some of the options that were already here.
Just for the record, Mike Comrie scored 10 goals last year.
Maybe he comes back and scores between 20-30. Maybe he doesn’t. Given his injury history, he’s not the sure thing people make him out to be.
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by Jonathan Willis on Sep 10, 2009 5:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Your argument against Comrie’s last two years is that he has a chip on his shoulder now?
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He’s a small forward with negligible defensive abilities who is capable of scoring—but very probably will not score—more than 20 goals. That puts him on a list that already includes Cogliano, O’Sullivan, Gagner, and arguably Nilsson (except that the first two are far more likely than Comrie to break 20). I don’t think the Oilers needed another one of those.
by sarcasticidealist on Sep 10, 2009 5:06 PM MDT reply actions
Exactly.
And Nilsson has a chance to be a better player in all areas of the ice.
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I hear lots about Horcoff being overworked, maybe this move is designed to have Comrie pick up the offensive load and let Horcoff be more of a checker. Or maybe Quinn and Renney (if they are saying anything on this signing) aren’t over-estimating the development our young centers like Mac T and Tambo did last year.
I don’t think he is the missing peice of the puzzle, but I do think he is a step forward.
Nilsson scored all of 9 goals last year.
Whether or not he has a CHANCE to be better than Comrie is debatable. Has Nilsson at any point in his career shown anything that would suggest he could become a 30 goal scorer?
I haven’t seen it. Sure he’s got some offensive flair…so does Comrie.
Look Comrie is only 28 years old. He hasn’t suffered any career threatening injuries. Coming off hip surgery last off-season probably hampered his play a little last year. What was Nilsson’s excuse???? Oh right he had none.
Comrie is far from washed up and he’s a better bet in my books to pot 20 than Nilsson any day of the week.
I like Nilsson. Don’t get me wrong I see the same potential you do. However, his potential is probably right around what Mike Comrie has already achieved.
Also, what’s the problem with letting MAP prove his worth? I’m sure the message for the organization is that the checking line center position is his to lose. Even if he falters I could see O’Sullivan being moved to that spot between Moreau and Pisani.
If anything signing Comrie allows Tambellini and co. to be really selective as to who plays in the top 6 and who gets shipped out. If he had signed Malhotra to a $2 million/year contract we’d all be whining about how overpaid our 3rd line is.
Oh and I completely agree with what SNNEnder just posted as well.
Well it all depends on Comrie’s health and how he’s used. His history is that he’s a classic bottom six killer. I dunno, I find it hard to hate at the price – it’s a small bet and it doesn’t take much to outperform that number. He does have a knack around the net and if he’s on a line with some guys that can do the work, he can pot some goals. Can the linemates make this a net positive though? Tough call.
With the exception of Malhotra, I don’t see another FA that is a slam dunk to have more impact than Comrie anyway.
by RiversQ on Sep 10, 2009 9:01 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Why?
But why do it though? This isn’t a player that makes the Oilers a playoff team. This isn’t a player that will change games. The team is sunk this year unless all of the IFS come in – why waste a spot on a redundancy?
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who's calling the shots?
After Tambellini came out and declared his lack of interest when the rumors first sprang up I can’t believe he’s a very happy guy right now. Let’s hope they can swing a deal.
Katz.
The man with the money calls the shots. Everyone else is along for the ride.
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One of a couple of questions Tambellini rather blatantly ducked during the scrum, the other being whether Katz was willing to bury a contract in the minors.
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People took me to task for my previous posts and comments that this was Ahab’s ship, but I think now it’s blatantly obvious.
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The thing is DZ is that he’s not more of what the Oilers don’t need. If he makes the team out of camp he will most likely be replacing someone in the top 6.
It also gives Quinn and co. the chance to maybe even try Horc or O’Sullivan as a third line center. I know Horc would be a grossly overpaid option as a 3rd line center but if let’s say Penner and Hemsky show great chemistry with Comrie why not take the offensive responsibility away from Horc and allow him to do what he does best… win faceoffs and play against the other team’s best.
It gives the Oilers options. That’s not a bad thing.
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why not take the offensive responsibility away from Horc and allow him to do what he does best… win faceoffs and play against the other team’s best.
Horcoff is light years ahead of Comrie offensively.
This signing is the equivalent of the Kotalik trade.
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