Too Many Bodies
The last few years Oilers fans have had some experience with the 50-contract limit. According to the CBA, any team in the NHL may have no more than fifty players signed to an NHL contract at any one time. This has been a problem for Kevin Lowe-run teams, which frequently flitted about at 48 or 49 players under contract.
The second line in the sand is the 23-man limit. An NHL team can't have more than 23 players on it's roster at any one time.
Both of these lines have caused some confusion this summer. Steve Tambellini has made comments about how bodies must go out if bodies are coming in. Many fans have agreed, citing one of the above two reasons. I really don't think that's a reasonable point of view to hold.
The 50-Man Limit
According to CapGeek.com (an increasingly indispensable resource for people like me) the Oilers have a combined total of 47 players either under contract or as RFA's whose rights are held by the Oilers. That list includes Josef Hrabal, who according to Guy Flaming has been bought out. It also includes Toni Rajala and Jordan Eberle - players who will not be counted against the 50-man limit if they are returned to junior.
In other words, come this winter the Oilers are probably looking at having 44 NHL contracts - including recently signed AHL'ers like Dean Arsene and Matt Nickerson. This limit clearly poses no problems - and if it did, these were problems created this summer.
The 23-Man Limit
This is a more plausible problem, although the Oilers have already sent away players (Ales Kotalik, Kyle Brodziak) without bringing in replacements. Let's look at the presumptive roster.
- Forwards (14): Gilbert Brule, Andrew Cogliano, Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky, Shawn Horcoff, Jean-Francois Jacques, Steve MacIntyre, Ethan Moreau, Robert Nilsson, Patrick O'Sullivan, Dustin Penner, Fernando Pisani, Marc Pouliot, Zack Stortini
- Defensemen (7): Tom Gilbert, Denis Grebeshkov, Ladislav Smid, Sheldon Souray, Steve Staios, Jason Strudwick, Lubomir Visnovsky
- Goaltenders (2): Nikolai Khabibulin, Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers
Also needing to clear waivers is Rob Schremp. It's probably worth noting that Quinn is against fighters with no other discernible talents.
Where I'm going with this is probably obvious. The only way that the Oilers can claim they have too many bodies to add a free agent or two is by arguing that Gilbert Brule, J-F Jacques, Steve MacIntyre, Robert Nilsson and Marc Pouliot are the stumbling blocks. In other words: there isn't any reason (other than salary concerns) for the Oilers to pass on a free agent unless he's an inferior player to every one of the four guys listed above.
It also seems clear to me that at least one spot (MacIntyre) and more probably two (Nilsson) are easy to open if the right player came along - say a third line forward like Manny Malhotra or Radek Bonk - or even a better than average fourth liner/penalty-killer like Andy Hilbert.
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Its funny I have always viewed the too many bodies comment as top 6 bodies. If you think about it Penner, Horcoff, Hemsky, Gagner, Cogliano, O’Sullivan and Nillson are all suited for top 6 play and with already 7 bodies and only 6 slots yes we have no room for anyone else.
Last year Cogs was bumped to the third line but I think his results would be much better in the top 6, so now do we bump 2 top 6 players to the 3rd or 4th line? That opens up too many potential issues in my eyes.
I can also see why they are hesitant to send Nillson to the minors. Lets say he clears waivers (which he probably would) and goes to Springfield and lights it up! A new attitude, a new desire and he is having his best year ever! No way he is going to clear waivers on the way back up so he no longer becomes an option for the Oilers no matter how good he plays or how badly they may need his help.
I can see them starting the year with Nillson on the team and half way through the year either trade or demote him (once the coaches know what they have).
So if you look at it in top 6 forwards, yes we have too many bodies.
So if you look at it in top 6 forwards, yes we have too many bodies.
So how does having too many top-six players stop the team from adding a third-line centre?
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Well if we pick up someone like Bonk for cheap that would give us a 3rd line of Bonk, Moreau and I would assume Cogs and if not Cogs then Pisani.
In my opinion Cogs on the 4th line is a waste of talent and a detriment to his development. Perhaps Pisani on that line with PK time as well but once again is this the best use of a resource?
Not to mention this move would mean pushing one of the other players down to the minors and Im not certain if we have any 2way forwards we could move.
I agree that a good proven 3rd liner would help the team, I can also see why the Oilers wont get one unless they can move a contract. Unfortunately I think they are only willing to move a top 6 for a 1st line LW.
by West Coast Oil on Aug 6, 2009 11:51 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yah I agree with you Jonathan on the contracts.
And personally I’ve asked this question in my head: who would I rather see on this team next year, Robert Nilsson (who’s skillset is duplicated by a few other Oilers at a cheaper price) or Manny Malhotra who fills in a need.
I hate to single players out, but if there’s an obvious need, I’d like to see Tambellini do something about it rather than make excuses that really don’t hold water. Try to trade Nilsson, if that doesn’t work, send him to the AHL through waivers.. if he gets scooped up, mission accomplished.
“The only way that the Oilers can claim they have too many bodies to add a free agent or two is by arguing that Gilbert Brule, J-F Jacques, Steve MacIntyre, Robert Nilsson and Marc Pouliot are the stumbling blocks. In other words: there isn’t any reason (other than salary concerns) for the Oilers to pass on a free agent unless he’s an inferior player to every one of the four guys listed above.”
I think Brule and Jacques have a lot to offer Pat Quinn.
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Sure, and so do Nilsson and Pouliot. Assuming that all four are too valuable to move, does Steve MacIntyre contribute more than Manny Malhotra? Or more than Radek Bonk?
I think not.
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by Jonathan Willis on Aug 7, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions
It’s probably worth noting that Quinn is against fighters with no other discernible talents.
Steve MacIntyre, you’re on notice.
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