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Digging In...Teemu Hartikainen's Underliers

 

Those that have attended The Church of Kurri know that I've done a small amount of writing on Teemu Hartikainen. There has been mention that The Church of Kurri became the Cult of Hartikainen, but that's neither here nor there. Previous entries on the young Finn can be located here where we brought historical context to his 18-year-old season, here where we looked at what can be expected of his 19-year-old season, here where we looked at a Finnish scouting report and some fan comments and here where we we looked at Härski's Wasama Trophy win.

In the comments section of my last post, the ever-present SpOiler decided that he wasn't going to let me continue the fluff pieces and challenged me thusly:

Any idea how his linemates produced? Those 6 assists seem a bit troubling and indicate perhaps another weakness other than breaking inertia and creativity. Any PP time in those stats?

And so I began digging into the Liiga's translated season stats as well as Kuopio Kalpa's translated box scores and game recaps. All 58 of them. I found enough interesting information to make a fifth post on Härski, Rancid, The Kuopio Kid.

First, the basics: Hartikainen averaged 13:03 per night of total ice time, 8th among forwards for Kalpa.  He was 5th among forwards in total shots, and 2nd among forwards in shots / TOI behind Kapanen, averaging 3.96 shots / 20 mins.   Kapanen averaged 4.49/20 and the next closest forward was 3.44/20.  Härski led the team in shooting percentage at 12.9%, perhaps on the high end what could be expected, but consistent with the scouting reports and fan comments about his style of play.  We can classify him as a shooter, based on these numbers.

He scored 17 goals, 10 at even strength, 7 on the power play. Checking the 18-year-old comps chart, we see that his even strength goals alone measure up to Jussi Jokinen's entire season. Fnl18yo_medium

Who was he playing with while at even strength? Kuopio's first line was anchored by Owner/CEO/Winger Sami Kapanen, their leading scorer. Härski had 12 even strength points on the year, none involved Kapanen, who led the team in assists.  It's safe to surmise that Hartikainen never received first line time at even strength. Looking through box scores for his points, and reading some game recaps, it seems that Hartikainen was shuffled between the second and third lines. So while he wasn't playing with the best his club had to offer, it's doubtful that he was playing against the toughest competition.

The details of Härski's power play production show that he wasn't given cherry minutes - he earned them. Hartikainen scored 1 power play goal in the first 26 games for Kuopio.  In those 26 games, Kuopio scored 14 power play goals total.  With Hartikainen on the bench and/or second unit, the team averaged .54 power play goals per game.  His first point on the first power play unit comes against Pelicans Lahti in a 3-1 victory during game 27. Over the last 32 games while playing with the first unit, he scores 6 goals and picks up 5 assists. Kuopio scored 34 total power play goals in that 32 game span, Härski had a hand in 32% of them.  After his promotion to the primary unit, the team averaged 1.1 PPG per game.  The possibility of a coincidence is obvious with this sample size, but this also matches the scouting reports of his ability in front of the net. Digging deeper into his stats reveals a player that matches the limited reports we're able to access.

Where does he fall among the Oilers recent prospects?  Gabriel Desjardins work on NHL Equivalency allows us to compare Hartikainen with some other Oiler players and prospects in their 18-year-old seasons:

Sam Gagner [NHL] 13-36-49
Jordan Eberle [WHL] 14-16-30
Rob Schremp [OHL] 12-15-27
Patrick O'Sullivan [OHL] 13-11-24
Philippe Cornet [QMJHL] 8-13-21
Teemu Hartikainen [SML] 15-5-20
Marc Pouliot [QMJHL] 7-9-16
Andrew Cogliano [NCAA] 4-5-9

His goal totals stand out in this context as well.

The last piece that I found interesting was a comparison of % of total goals of the 18-year-old SM-Liiga seasons in the chart at the top of the page. Hartikainen scored 17 of 153 goals, or 11.11%. Using this method as a comp is an easy way to slice through differences in leagues and eras to see how players stack up.   A quick check of comparable seasons:

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Kapanen caught.

Edmonton has an 18-year-old playing with second and third-liners at even strength and producing historically well for a boy amongst men. He quickly became a productive power play option, and from the scouting reports, he's doing his work from the slot and crease. No matter how you dissect this season, it's extremely encouraging for a team and system bereft of productive forwards.

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Great post. Other than having a name that’s fun to say (Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen, Teemu Hartikainen…ahem. Sorry), I really don’t know a lick about him. His career could still go either way, I’m sure, but this is definately encouraging stuff.

by ykmisfit on Jul 8, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Name

I’m looking forward to what Gene Principe can do with his name.

by Derek Zona on Jul 8, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In recent times(read last 3 months) I had started following Chuch of Kurri. You had gotten me very excited about this prospect. As you had written in one of your last blogs there, nexxt season will be the one to see how well this kid develops. For some seasons Finnish hockey standards have fallen off. I find myself rooting for prospects from that country.

by SumOil on Jul 8, 2009 9:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope to see a day in the not-so-distant future where the Oilers ice a line of:

Hartikainen-Nash-Eberle

by Derek Zona on Jul 8, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 for the hope

MSP-Gagner-Hemsky
Hartikainen-nash-eberle

by SumOil on Jul 8, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jacques-Vande Velde-Cogliano :)

by Derek Zona on Jul 8, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assits harder to come by?

I wonder if assists are harder to come by in the top Finn league?

Anyway, coach, I’ve read all these posts and enjoyed them all.

by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Jul 8, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Assists

It sure seems that way, at least for rookies. It could be that he spent half of a season with third liners that didn’t have many goals at all. Or, the opposite view, he couldn’t make a pass to get a guy a goal :)

by Derek Zona on Jul 8, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

arent only the primary assists that are counted in the league?? or am i confusing it with some other league?

by SumOil on Jul 8, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget about assists

This kid scored more goals than any other 18-year-old on your list. That’s a real positive place to start.

by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 8, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goals

Indeed, Bruce. It really was a historical season for the kid. The Liiga hasn’t seen a rookie score like that since the chosen one himself.

Contributor to The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Jul 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second assists

Yes, second assists are counted. I’ve seen enough boxscores to know :)

Contributor to The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Jul 9, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Offensive Style

I think that would depend on the primary mode of offense. Not every team would be the same and I’m sure the Finnish league has their Minnesota Wilds and their Detroit Red Wings.

RT40 writes with Strange Deadfellows Oilerblog and is an avid hockey fan.

by raventalon40 on Jul 8, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read the post, and it was brilliant. But I couldn’t get over the old school nintendo gameshot at the beginning. Is that DigDug? I played the second title in my youth and that shot looks like very similar. It was for all accounts an amazing game.

by doritogrande on Jul 8, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DigDug

Indeed it is. It remains my favorite arcade game ever, and with the title of the post, I had to work it in.

by Derek Zona on Jul 8, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read the post, and it was brilliant.

Thanks, by the way.

by Derek Zona on Jul 8, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only disapointing thing is that his best comp from any of your lists is a guy who hasn’t really done much in the NHL, and is now with his 3rd NHL team in 4 years.

I mean, it’s nice to look at his name right up there with Jarri Kurri, but when you consider the fact that their stats were taken 30 years apart from each other, it’s hard to consider them comparable.

by ykmisfit on Jul 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But hey, even if he tops out as another Petteri Nokelainen, that’s pretty damn good for a 6th round pick.

by ykmisfit on Jul 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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