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Guys The Oilers Should At Least Call: Andy Hilbert



Andy Hilbert

#11 / Left Wing / New York Islanders

5-11

194

Feb 06, 1981

37th overall, 2000


GPGAP+/-PIMSOGPCTQualCompQualTeamCorsi/60
2008 - 09 67 11 16 27 -3 22 167 6.6 2nd 7th -5.6




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Andy Hilbert has spent most of his career as a perpetual prospect, with the label "possible top-six forward" firmly affixed.  It made sense; he scored very well in college and in the AHL, but somewhere along the way Hilbert made a transformation.  Scoring stars who spend a lot of time in the minors seem to make one of two decisions:

  1. Spend a lot of their career in Europe
  2. Develop in other areas

Hilbert did the latter, turning into a defensively responsible, bottom-six guy.  He got  job with Chicago, and got picked up by Pittsburgh when the Blackhawks tried to send him back to the minors.  He found himself on Sidney Crosby's wing and scored 18 points in 19 games.

That was the situation in July of 2006, when Hilbert was signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Islanders.  Despite that flash of offensive ability in Pittsburgh, his goal and point totals in New York have been underwhelming:

  • 2006-07: 81GP - 8G - 20A - 28PTS
  • 2007-08: 70GP - 8G - 8A - 16PTS
  • 2008-09: 67GP - 11G - 16A - 27PTS

Yet, there is one thing that stands out about Hilbert: his plus/minus.  Here are his numbers for those three seasons, and in brackets next to them the Islanders' total plus/minus as a team:

  • 2006-07: +10 (+5)
  • 2007-08: +2 (-51)
  • 2008-09: -3 (-76)
  • Totals: +9 (-122)

That's significant.  Andy Hilbert has consistently put up decent +/- numbers over three seasons with one of the NHL's worst franchises.  It isn't easy to do that.  It becomes more difficult given that Hilbert:

  • routinely played against top opponents
  • routinely played with poor linemates
  • took far more defensive zone than offensive zone draws

Last season, Hilbert earned 700,000 $.  He isn't likely to get much of a raise on that this year; in fact, he may be in tight to get a regular NHL job at all.  If the price is right, Hilbert could be at worst a very effective fourth-liner, and at best a possible replacement for Ethan Moreau on the third line.  He'll be useful on the penalty-kill and he'll certainly do more to help the Oilers win hockey games than most of the young fringe guys looking for a lineup spot.

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You mean future Detroit Red Wing – Andy Hilbert?

by Mr DeBakey on Jul 20, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow I did not even know that the guy was a UFA. After reading, I sorta looked him up. I am surprised that Isles did not sign him considering they dont really have good bottom 6. Guy certainly flew under the radar( I couldnt find him on the sportsnet site, damn he is good at hiding).

by SumOil on Jul 20, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Oilers have too many forwards under contract. One doesn’t solve that problem by signing more. The cap is also probably going down next year.

When Cleary went to Detroit, he went to Detroit’s training camp on a tryout basis.

If a third line guy wants to come to the Oilers training camp on a tryout basis, or sign a cheap one-year contract in September, fine.

by godot10 on Jul 21, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not a cheap one or two-year contract now? We aren’t talking big money here.

And I’d gladly put a guy like Steve MacIntyre on waivers to make room for a useful NHL’er.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too many forwards

The Oilers have sent away three forwards without bringin any in. That helps clear the glut.

Besides, the real problem is that the Oilers have too many forwards under contract who haven’t proven capable of playing the roles they’re being slotted for. Hilbert would represent a step in the right direction in that department.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is a contract that might be worth a million at the max going to hurt our cap situation next year? Next year pouliot’s contract will be over. we cant just sit pat at 47 or so contracts. A GM should always look to improve the team. Whether it means shedding contract or taking it. At present Andy Hibert seems better than 2/3 rd of our bottom 6 guys

by SumOil on Jul 21, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit

Apparently the Red Wings are interested…

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by Jonathan Willis on Aug 4, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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Oilers Stats Leaders

Stat

Forwards

Defense

TOI/G:

Horcoff (19:31)

Gilbert (21:50)

ESTOI/G:

Horcoff (14:40)

Grebeshkov (17:16)

Points:

Penner (48)

Visnovsky (32)

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Penner (24)

Visnovsky (10)

Assists:

Penner (24)

Visnovsky (22)

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Penner (.122)

Smid (.090)

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Penner (169)

Visnovsky (78)

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Penner(.675)

Visnovsky (.460)

SCF/15:

Penner (5.017)

Visnovsky (4.517)

SCA/15:

Stortini (3.954)

Gilbert (4.260)

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