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Dany Heatley (Not Quite) Traded to Edmonton for Cogliano, Penner and Smid

This is Andrew Cogliano.  He slipped in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft because of issues about his size and the quality of the league he was playing in.  He has been the Lowe-era Oilers best draft-day find based on where he was selected and his NHL success to date.  He's played two NHL seasons and twice scored 18 goals, and he's a favorite of mine for a lot of different reasons.

According to Sportsnet, he's now an Ottawa Senator, along with the underrated but overpriced Dustin Penner and promising defenseman Ladislav Smid.  All three cost the Oilers a lot, not only in assets but also in development time in the majors.  All three were on the cusp of paying off.

I don't like this trade.  It's probably a win for the Oilers, who bring back a guy who is going to score 40 every year and could very well score 50 again, but I don't like it.  The Oilers get increasingly top-heavy in terms of dollars spent with this deal, and I sure hope that Shawn Horcoff didn't burn out all of his offensive instincts last year because he's going to need them again.

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A Pens fan friend said it best

“What a gross overpayment.”

by Derek Zona on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gross

Heatley – Horcoff – Hemsky
O’Sullivan – Gagner – Nilsson
Moreau – GUY – Pisani
Jacques – Pouliot – Stortini

Brule

Souray – Gilbert
Grebeshkov – Visnovsky
Staios – GUY
Peckham

GUY
Deslauriers

$53,750,000

Nilsson still in the top six and JDD still has to play 25 games.

by Derek Zona on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heatley – Horcoff – Hemsky
O’Sullivan – Gagner – Pouliot
Moreau – FA – Pisani
Jacques – Brule – Stortini

Potulny

Visnovsky – Souray
Grebeshkov – Gilbert
FA – Tjarnqvist

Strudwick

Anderson
Deslauriers

Better?

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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 30, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Total

Now I’ve got that at $53,250,000 ….

Better, but that’s still a one line team.

by Derek Zona on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This could work out ok.....

Dustin Penner- 4.25 mil 37 pts
Ladslav Smid – .725 mil 11 pts >>><<< Dany Heatley 72 pts – 7.5 mil
Cogs – .85 mil 38 pts

I think this is a decent trade for edmonton, certainly better for the Oil than the Sens. The Sens could get lucky with Cogliano, but he didn’t really have a spectacular season. The lack of decent play is a theme amongst all the players in this deal, with Heatley having a bit of a bum year, Penner being a bust since he went to Edmonton, and Smid…. well he still hasn’t had a goal. I also think Smid made many poor choices last year on the blue line. The highlight of the deal is unloading Penner, with the downside being giving up Cogliano, but the addition of Heatley should make the first line a force.

Hemesky is a quarterback, and Heatley is a Trigger man, Even if Horcoff plays with them They should dominate. The oilers now need to focus on unloading Horcoff and Nilsson and signing Kotalik and I think their playoff missing days are a thing of the past.

by Mattaboy on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Horcoff will need to play with them. He’s the only one who can find the defensive zone without the aid of a compass.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 30, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is true. He is decent defensively, and would likely get some of his cookie cutter power play goals. TSN is reporting that Heatley did not waive his no trade clause thus flattening the deal, but Sportsnet has the deal listed as done on the ticker…. wait and see.

by Mattaboy on Jun 30, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but he’s a third line offensively, and when you add that together I don’t see 3.6 million.

by Mattaboy on Jun 30, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate to revisit the tired old Horcoff debate, but third-liners don’t score 50 points (which Horc does, in bad years). They certainly aren’t near the point-per-game mark (which Horcoff is, in good years).

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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 30, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he needs to prove that it wasn’t a cinderella year for him ( The point per game year). If you watch his goals from this year back to back, They’re almost all the same shot. I’m not against set plays, but the difference between A guy like Horcs and what I want in a first liner is some versatility in scoring ability. Don’t get me wrong…. I do like his defensive play and his two way effort, I just don’t see a 3.6 million dollar player in him. Maybe he’ll earn it this year, who knows. If THIS deal goes through, which it should tomorrow sometime, Horcoff will likely have his best season yet.

by Mattaboy on Jun 30, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Horcoff’s had two point-per-game years.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One was with Smyth.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes.

I’m just talking about his time with Penner.

by Derek Zona on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose technically he did.

by Mattaboy on Jun 30, 2009 10:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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TOI/G:

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