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It Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time

It's been rather amazing to watch the Dustin Penner bandwagon these past few years.  When Kevin Lowe first offered Penner a contract as a restricted free agent, it was after a spring and summer of disappointment.  The Oilers had missed out on most of the big names in free agency, signing Sheldon Souray but failing to land the impact forward they coveted.  Ryan Smyth had been traded the previous summer, and Michael Nylander had backed out of an agreement with the Oilers to sign with Washington for less money.  Kevin Lowe was in desperation mode, first offering a contract to Tomas Vanek (which was matched) and then to Plan B, Dustin Penner.

Most Oilers fans loved the Penner offer sheet.  He was compared in the local papers to John Leclair, and many felt that the power forward they coveted had finally arrived when Brian Burke declined to match the generous five-year offer.  A poll on HFBoards offers a snap shot of the fan base's opinion the day the offer sheet was announced.  The question was simple: do you want Brian Burke to match Lowe's offer.  Here were the results:

  • Yes: 32.18%
  • No: 51.49%
  • Indifferent: 16.34%

More than half of the fans in that poll thought the offer sheet was a good idea, despite the disastrous season preceeding it, the length of the contract, Penner's own spotty track record, and the three draft picks that were surrendered in the process.

My own distaste for the offer sheet stemmed more from where the Oilers were at the time than Penner's value as a player.  2006-07 had been a disaster, Ryan Smyth was gone, and the blueline was still largely in shambles.  I wanted to see a complete rebuild of the team, rather than patchwork via free agency.  I did, however, believe that Penner would be fair value on the contract dollars, something which hasn't happened to date.

It's an illuminating case though of how a fanbase can turn; only two years ago, more than half approved of the offer sheet and hoped to see Penner as an Oiler.  Now, few would call it anything but a mistake.  It's something to keep in mind about the conventional wisdom of Oilers fans as a whole: moves that please the majority of the fanbase may turn out disastrously in the long-term.  And that, ultimately, is why the Oilers' shouldn't bother with moves to appease their fans; because in the end, if they win the fans will love them and if they lose they won't.

Witness the complaints this season and this summer: fans complain about an indifferent team, the "sorriest group of players" they've ever seen, a lack of grit, a lack of drive, and all the like.  But none of us is as dumb as all of us; the rhetoric is overblown, and that finish really wasn't as bad as it appeared - 21st in the NHL with a young team and some very addressable holes.  I think, and I certainly hope, that Steve Tambellini examines this organization with an objective view, and resists making big, long-term changes that ultimately will cause more chaos.

 

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Your title and discussion reminds me of what’s going on in Flamesland right now re: Jokinen. A lot of second guessing and hindsight with qualifying statements “90% of people thought it was the right move at the time” on Calgary messageboards.

Put me in the other 10%. Most bad moves are bad moves right when they’re made. It’s the perception that doesn’t match reality.

by Kent Wilson on Apr 19, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shiny baubles...

Often don’t turn out the way people think they should. On the bright side, Flames fans should have some new respect for Daymond Langkow.

Wait, I’m an Oilers’ fan. On the bright side, you guys have no cap space and a ton of money spent on a shiny bauble! Just like… oh… us.

It's only my opinion, but it's right.

Writer for The Copper & Blue, OilersNation, and CanucksArmy.

by Jonathan Willis on Apr 19, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Scott

I’m surprised that you think the deal is so bad more than anything. I didn’t really like it at the time but the pick ended up being less of a disaster than I expected and Penner has performed pretty well on the first line and power play. The 4.25M seems like a lot but it’s quite a bit less than what other similar young players were getting and I’d much rather pay for a player’s mid/late twenties than his early/mid thirties. The whole first line (assuming that Penner/Horcoff/Hemsky was the plan) checks in at 15.85M which is actually pretty inexpensive. If they can outscore tough opposition and contribute on the PP, then the move doesn’t look bad at all. I’ve actually warmed up to the move over time.

by Scott Reynolds on Apr 19, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Deal Isn't So Bad...

…except that the Oilers already have a ton of marginal value contracts. I’d like Penner a lot more from a cap perspective if he were earning about 3MM a year.

Mostly though, my issues aren’t with the contract so much; I figured 2007-08 should be a rebuild year – crash and burn and cash in on a lottery pick. Instead, Lowe blew the picks in a vain attempt to reach the playoffs that ultimately fell short.

It's only my opinion, but it's right.

Writer for The Copper & Blue, OilersNation, and CanucksArmy.

by Jonathan Willis on Apr 19, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He still has time to prove that he’s worth the money. He may yet grow into his salary cap shoes.

by Fleet Fox on Apr 19, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Change for the sake of change

This would be the worst possible time for the org. to move Penner, cuz his value will never be lower. His numbers fell off a little this year, largely due to reduced ice time on the powerplay (just 5 PPG after 13 last year). At even strength his game improved significantly; despite bouncing around from the 1st through the 4th lines and spending time at all three forward positions, Dustin’s +/- soared from -12 to +7 in 2008-09, tied with Horcoff for best among Oiler forwards. That was hardly a fluke as Penner’s underlying numbers (shots, Corsi, etc.) were best on the club. I hope the org. will be patient enough to give him a fresh opportunity with a new coach. Dustin could really help himself by showing up to camp with something to prove, cuz MacT was certainly correct that he’s capable of much more.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Apr 20, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree.

It's only my opinion, but it's right.

Writer for The Copper & Blue, OilersNation, and CanucksArmy.

by Jonathan Willis on Apr 20, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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TOI/G:

Horcoff (19:31)

Gilbert (21:50)

ESTOI/G:

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Grebeshkov (17:16)

Points:

Penner (48)

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Assists:

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Penner (.122)

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Penner (169)

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Penner(.675)

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Penner (5.017)

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