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Ironic Pierre McGuire Quotes: "Miikka Kiprusoff is a hero with the glove!"


Thanks to NHL.com, we can all see the glory of Martin Havlat's game-winning goal, 12 seconds into overtime.  It's a goal that emphasizes yet again the one area where Calgary is substantially weaker than Chicago: in net.

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Now, sure, Kiprusoff being down on the game winning goal was probably at least somewhat connected to that crease-crashing Blackhawk forward, and obviously that's where Mike Keenan was going to point after the game:

"I believe it was Ladd who did not try to stop," Keenan said after the game. "That's goaltender interference."

Watching the replay, though, it doesn't seem nearly that clear cut to me, and even if Kiprusoff was knocked over what does seem clear is that he didn't have a strong game.  The first Chicago goal (Cam Barker) was not only from a distance but also from a tough angle; the kind of goal that no goalie wants to give up.  On the second goal, the primary responsibility doesn't fall to Kiprusoff, since with three Calgary players and one Martin Havlat sitting in front of the net there really wasn't any way that Havlat should have been able to get his own rebound.  Then again, Kipper overcommitted to the left hand side of the net while simultaneously kicking the rebound directly in front, so he really wasn't blameless there, either.  It simply wasn't a strong game for the Flames netminder, who has been getting talk of Vezina consideration but who really hasn't deserved it this season.  A quick comparison to the other goaltender in this series:


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2008 - Miikka Kiprusoff 76 4418 45 24 5 3 209 2.84 2155 1946 .903 4


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2008 - Nikolai Khabibulin 42 2467 25 8 7 1 96 2.33 1192 1096 .919 3

 

It seems to me that these two met once before in the playoffs... I remember that Kiprusoff had put quite a run together, but as I recall Khabibulin still skated away with the series win.  Except of course that it's different this year; both teams are in the first round and this time Kiprusoff would seem to be a liability, rather than a strength.

Calgary fans, I'm sure, will be quick to point out that Kiprusoff made a number of good saves (and he did) but even so a few of those saves were only required because of poor rebound control to begin with (with the save on Kyle Versteeg at 11:22 of the 3rd period being the best example).

With all of that being said, I really don't think that Mike Keenan has any choice but to watch and give his goaltender as much support as he can.  After all, it isn't like his backup is a realistic option:


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2008 - Curtis McElhinney 14 518 1 6 1 3 31 3.59 280 249 .889 0


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We need Calgary to win so we can get Brent Sutter.

by raventalon40 on Apr 17, 2009 12:23 AM MDT reply actions  

The Oilers will have a better chance at getting Brandon Sutter.

Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!

by John Fischer on Apr 17, 2009 7:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

From the faceoff, McPhee brings it in with Skrudland…he scores!

The Calgary Flames: giving up stupidly early OT goals since 1986. (Man, I wish Don Wittman’s call of that was still on YouTube.)

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by Doogie2K on Apr 17, 2009 8:08 AM MDT reply actions  

Although

Every so often they’re on the right side of the equation

It's only my opinion, but it's right.

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by Jonathan Willis on Apr 17, 2009 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can’t give up stupid early playoff OT goals without being in the playoffs :)

I kid, I kid.

by R O on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

New Site

Looks amazing Willis, love all the features – the ones I can figure out anyway.

Are you writing full time now and abandoning the Instrumentating gig? Regardless, thanks for constantly stifling my work productivity!

Also – thanks for coninuing to shine light onto the overrated mess that is Kipper.

by Poo Czar on Apr 17, 2009 9:25 AM MDT reply actions  

Nah, I’m just in school right now, so I find myself with a bunch of free time.

It's only my opinion, but it's right.

Writer for The Copper & Blue, OilersNation, and CanucksArmy.

by Jonathan Willis on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Calgary fans, I’m sure, will be quick to point out that Kiprusoff made a number of good saves (and he did) but even so a few of those saves were only required because of poor rebound control to begin with (with the save on Kyle Versteeg at 11:22 of the 3rd period being the best example).

Can’t agree more. That’s what I thought when McGuire did his hero thing – that shot shouldn’t even have happened. And this is coming from a Flames fan.

Watching the replay, though, it doesn’t seem nearly that clear cut to me

I think it leans more towards interference given how much space Ladd had to avoid Kipper. But the infuriating thing is that the media (CBC and TSN) didn’t even acknowledge that it wasn’t clear cut (i.e. that it was even possible that Ladd committed goalie interference) and instead chose to key in on the Cammalleri elbow, which was a stupid penalty to take but essentially a complete non-factor in determining the result of the game.

by R O on Apr 17, 2009 9:32 AM MDT reply actions  

I had the same feeling re: the OT goal. Sure, Ladd was the and there was some contact…but a standard butterfly stance stops that puck. I have no idea why Kipper instead flopped to the ground like that.

He’s been like this all year. Highlight reel stops punctuated by questionable goals.

by Kent Wilson on Apr 17, 2009 10:47 AM MDT reply actions  

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