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Oilers v. Stars - Isaiah 14:18-23

Edmonton Oilers at Dallas Stars, Dec 5, 2009 12:00 PM MST


All the great players of other teams are exalted,
lifted to the rafters and honoured by fans.
But you exile your hero to Russia
like a loathsome cap hit.
Wandering the outskirts of hockey relevance,
he is forgotten.
You have neglected his proper exaltation
and have trampled his memory under your feet.


You will not be named among the truly great teams,
because you have not honoured your past
and you treat your heroes with disrespect.


May your team never see success again!
We will prepare slaughter for those who now wear the Star
because of the guilt of those who came before them.
Let them never rise to prominence in the league
or cover the Stanley Cup with their names.


"I will rise up against them," says Yahweh, the leader of the angel armies, "and will take away from the Stars their name and their city just as I did with the North Stars before them.  Soon, no remnant of the North Stars will remain.  And that will be a sign: these Stars will have not last forever," says Yahweh.  "I will turn their rights over to a new owner who will sweep them out of Dallas by my decree.  I will sweep with them out of Dallas with the broom of destruction."  Yahweh, the leader of the angel armies, has spoken. 

 

 

Edmonton Oilers (11-13-4) @ Dallas Stars (13-8-7)

American Airlines Center, 12:00 P.M. MDT
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report:  Before the season I didn't think the Stars were much of a club and made that pretty clear the first time they played the Oilers.  I'm still not particularly impressed with the Stars so far this year but their record in regulation (10-8-10) is certainly a lot better than that of the Oilers (You-Don't-Wanttoknow).  So what were some areas I didn't like and how are they outperforming my expectations?  Well, I noted the defense as a weakness and still believe that the Stars don't have much depth.  Fortunately for them, they've only had to play seven different defenders to this point in the season.  Although their bottom pairing guys haven't been that strong the top pair of Robidas and Grossman have been very good.  They've taken on the toughs and the defensive zone starts and have managed to come out on top in terms of goal differential and only have a slight negative in the Corsi column.  Good health and stand-out performances at the top of the roster have really helped the defence pull through.  The same can be said of the Stars forwards where only fourteen forwards have played more than two games.  And their good health persists today with no significant injuries on the roster.  They've also had tremendous performances from three different lines which makes them quite difficult to defend for teams that don't have the requisite depth.  Brad Richards in particular has been able to carry a line through some pretty tough sledding.  He may not be worth his contract over the long haul but so far this season he's more than covered the bet.  In goal, Marty Turco has generally been very good so far this year.  I'm still not convinced the Stars will end up being a playoff team but it looks like they're going to be in the mix which is ahead of where I had them at the start of the year.

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (11-13-4):

Penner - Gagner - Brule
Jacques - Horcoff - O'Sullivan
Moreau - Cogliano - Potulny

Stone - Stortini (What?) - Nilsson

Smid - Visnovsky

Staios - Souray
Strudwick - Gilbert


Deslauriers

 

Dallas Stars (13-8-7)

Eriksson - Richards - Ott
Neal - Modano - Lehtinen
Morrow -  Riberio - Benn
SwJesus - Wandell - Petersen

Grossman - Robidas
Daley - Skrastins
Niskanen - Fistric

Turco

 

Behind the Numbers:

  • The Stars do not have any forwards with more than two games played who have taken more draws in the defensive zone than the offensive zone.
  • Brad Richards is tied for first in the NHL with 16 points on the power play.  Dustin Penner leads the Oilers with 11 points.
  • James Neal leads the Stars with a shooting percentage of 18.2% which is better than any Oiler dressing for tonight's game.  The closest is Ryan Potulny's 17.5%.  
  • The Edmonton Oilers only have six skaters with a shooting percentage higher than 0% but lower than 10%.  They're all in the lineup tonight.  A gold star calf... nevermind, you'll get nothing, but try to name all six without checking.

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I believe I speak for every left-coaster who was up a liiiiiiiiiiiittle too late last night when I say “what the hell kind of time for a hockey game is this?”

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 10:34 AM MST reply actions  

Horcoff, O’Sullivan, Jacques, Souray, Gilbert, Nilsson

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 12:07 PM MST reply actions  

At first, I had no idea what you were talking about. Four out of six is pretty good. Care to try again?

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

 Not Horcoff, and I don’t think Nilsson. Gilbert and Souray for sure, Sully for sure, likely JFJ, which would be the 4 Derek got right. Surely Dink Dumshit Moreau, maybe Cogs?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

You have all six good sir.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Huh, mostly I keep track of goals and have a vague idea of shots rates. I did notice the other day Lubo and Grebs in double digits which is unusual for a D.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

•The Stars do not have any forwards with more than two games played who have taken more draws in the defensive zone than the offensive zone.

Turco.

I’ll bet JDD causes at least 5 more faceoffs by freezing the puck than Turco does. Marty’s the most proactive goalie in the league in terms of keeping play alive in my observation. Of course, that doesn’t show up in his Sv% so it’s not a useful skill. :p

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:17 PM MST reply actions  

Great point Bruce, it doesn’t matter at all. Seriously though, the Oilers are setting up for their second OZ draw right now. The Stars have had six. And Turco has been a factor.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ve been watching for the lines and so far this is what they’ve done before the penalty:

5-71 with 10
77-44 with 89
24-43 with 13
5-71 with 13
5-71 with 46
77-44 with 10
24-43 with 89
5-71 with 13
5-71 with 46

Just rolling them out.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:21 PM MST reply actions  

The Oilers seem about as up for this game as I am.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 12:22 PM MST reply actions  

Nice backcheck by Nilsson deep in his own end, took the hit, safely moved the puck, then took Stortini’s breakout pass and got things going the right direction.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:27 PM MST reply actions  

So, do we know when Khabibulin is returning from his back thing yet? Like, has anyone said anything?

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 12:30 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t think anything has been said. He mentioned possibly getting an MRI if things didn’t improve but I haven’t heard whether or not they actually got one done.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

2 weeks + no improvement = uh oh

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Who knew that our middle-aged goalie with a history of injuries and slacking off in non-contract years could suffer an injury?

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, that contract is looking Real bad. Especially with the over-35 clause hanging over it like sword of Damocles.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Bruce, that contract was looked real bad the moment it was signed.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Patrick O’Sullivan and Jean-Francois Jacques on a 2-on-1, or as I like to call it “I’m surprised they hit the net.”

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 12:33 PM MST reply actions  

It was even a pretty good save by Turco.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Escellent save. I thought O’Sullivan was going too slow and telegraphed the play, but he made an excellent pass, and JFJ didn’t miss.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

The Moreau-Cogliano-Potulny line has looked pretty good to me again tonight. If they can keep it up it’ll be a huge help.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:35 PM MST reply actions  

Well that was bad. 24-43 again. Staios sold out to block the shot so wasn’t around to help with the rebound. That said, he forced a high shot, so there shouldn’t have been a rebound.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:37 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t understand how you come out of a commercial break with 24-43 on the ice.

That’s just bad coaching.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

And apparently we agree.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

24-43 is our shut down pairing. As in, we might as well shut down the season.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

You know that they are going to get outplayed for the rest of the season – it’s unacceptable that they’ve got 137 years of coaching experience on the bench and they are getting outcoached. And it’s not as if these are advanced tactics – they’re getting blown out of the water on something as simple as a defensive pairing after a 1 minute television time out.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I was surprised that they went with 24-43 for the OZ draw after the commercial break. I thought there was a good chance 71-5 would stay out.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Good hustle by Nilsson trying to negate that icing.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:41 PM MST reply actions  

Gagner just utterly lost his man there. Now, big skill mismatch between him and Richards, but…

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 12:42 PM MST reply actions  

That one’s on Potulny in my books. Completely slacked his way to the bench on the line chance, Dallas broke out 3-on-2 because Potulny took both himslef and his replacement out of the play, Gagner was late coming on against the 3-on-2, and in the net it goes.

Guys who don’t hustle to the bench at the end of the shift earn a -5 in my books. In reality, 5 other guys get stuck with a minus.

Inexcusably unprofessional, I don’t give a FF how tired you think you are, take a couple of damn strides.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:44 PM MST reply actions  

18 shots against in the first period alone. Good old staios and Struds on the ice when with the top line when the pain starts. Another late period goal against.

It’s looking pretty ugly. The Oilers played the last ten minutes in their zone if not for the brief reprieve of the power play.

If I see the top unit feed Souray for a shot at a shin pad again on the power play one more time…

by Hockey Noob on Dec 5, 2009 12:47 PM MST reply actions  

The other thing that happened on that goal was O’Sullivan was on the point at the end of the powerplay, and Richards blew around him like the powderpuff he is.There were 4 forwards on the ice when the puck went in. That can’t happen.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:47 PM MST reply actions  

Yep. I think that one is more on the coaching staff than anything. If you’re going to use O’Sullivan on the PP you can’t have him get stuck out there when the PP ends. It’s just plain foolish.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Why use him on the point at all? Quinn initially said something about using him there for his shot, in which case he needs a new prescription for his glasses.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Smid is more accurate

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, they shouldn’t be but if they insist on doing so they really need to make sure he’s protected.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

So after the Dallas PP, this is how the lines went:

5-71 with 10
24-43 with 89
77-44 with 13
77-44 with 46
5-71 with 46
5-71 with 10
24-43 with 89
77-44 with 13
77-5 with 46 – incomplete change on D
71-5 with 46
71-5 with 10
24-43 with 89 – Dallas goal
77-44 with 13
77-5 with 46 – incomplete change on D
71-5 with 46

And then the Oilers had a PP followed by:

Mishmash – Dallas goal
24-43 with 89
77-44 with 46

That last shift was the only time they broke cadence… to put out the 4th line with Stortini at C for a DZ draw with 10 seconds left. Good grief.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 12:49 PM MST reply actions  

That last shift was the only time they broke cadence

Why pay Renney the money? Just Tencer back there and let him “manage the d”

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s one thing to be outskilled and outmanned, but HUA is unacceptable.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 12:49 PM MST reply actions  

Gagner with an even Corsi that period, all other Oilers in the minus. Only Star in the minus was (hehe) Woywitka.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:01 PM MST reply actions  

JDD would freeze the puck more often if he could hold or even control a rebound. Dude fights the puck every game.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:03 PM MST reply actions  

Goal!

Excellent fourth line work there, nice skill by Nilsson to get the puck back to the point while Stone and Zorg converged on the front of the net.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:05 PM MST reply actions  

Ryan Stone’s looking good, even the goal aside.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions  

You are being awfully generous there.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Number of Stanley Cups Ty Conklin single-handedly lost: 1
Number of Stanley Cups Jeff Deslauriers single-handedly lost: 0

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Pffft. You’re definitely being too hard on Conklin.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

JDD needs to work on that play. Maybe it would work better if he simply turned around and fired it straight into his own net rather than trying to feed the other guys. FFS

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions  

Heh. Reaugh says the Stars need Souray too.

Done and done.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions  

Three guys took a hit to move the puck around the boards to O’Sullivan who goes into the corner like he has no intention of touching the puck. Ott winds up winning possession from a vastly inferior position. Scoring chance results.

I wish the guy would show a smidge of commitment once in awhile, but I’m just not seeing it.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Great check by Brule on Gilbert,. FFS!!!

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:12 PM MST reply actions  

That was a nice backcheck. Wrong end, nice play.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

That was the most frustrating play of the period by far.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Nilsson needed to get the puck deep and change on that backpass to Stone. That last shift was way too long by the 4th line.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:16 PM MST reply actions  

By 2/3 of the 4th line, yes it was. Way too long.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Bobby Nilsson’s back into “wheeeeee” mode rather than the semi-dominant silky smooth forward we so long for. Couple nasty giveaways already.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 1:17 PM MST reply actions  

If Jeff Woywitka had scored on us, I… I don’t know what I would have done.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 1:20 PM MST reply actions  

So here are the lines so far this period until the Dallas penalty:

5-71 with 10
77-44 with 89
24-43 with 13
24-43 with 46
5-71 with 46 – Edmonton Goal
77-44 with 10
24-43 with 89
5-71 with 89
5-71 with 13
77-44 with 46 – Dallas Penalty

More rolling!

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:21 PM MST reply actions  

Outmanned, outplayed, outcoached.

Unless they can resurrect Hasek, it’s a lottery team.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Three guys took a hit to move the puck around the boards to O’Sullivan who goes into the corner like he has no intention of touching the puck. Ott winds up winning possession from a vastly inferior position. Scoring chance results.

I wish the guy would show a smidge of commitment once in awhile, but I’m just not seeing it.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:25 PM MST reply actions  

I noticed that too. He put his arm out as if he was going to hold him off with an arm.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Hayley Wickenheiser would have made the play. All of her teammates would have too.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

And now from the penalty on:

77-71 with 89 – incomplete change on D
5-71 with 89
24-43 with 46
77-44 with 46
77-44 with 13
5-71 with 10
24-43 with 89
77-43 with 46 – incomplete change on D
77-44 with 46
77-44 with 13
71-5 with 10

They bumped the lines around after the penalty in terms of order but they still just keep rolling them out.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:25 PM MST reply actions  

Damn i did not know that we were playing a morning game

by SumOil on Dec 5, 2009 1:31 PM MST reply actions  

I hate them.
We generally lose.

by SumOil on Dec 5, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s true for every game we play, though.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Say Be, do you want to take post game? I’m going out.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

“Ben”

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I Be pissed off at this crappy hockey team.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Grossman actually got the puck, didn’t he?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Turco knocked it off Penner’s stick and then the D cleared the puck (though if it had gone harder off his shins he wouldn’t have been quite so happy).

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

And here’s the rest of the time at EV for the lines:

5-71 with 10
24-43 with 89 – Edmonton Penalty

24-43 with 10-89-19
5-71 with 10-89-19
5-71 with 89
44-77 with 13
44-77 with 10

They skipped the 4th line after 89 once the penalty was over but that was the only change. The D haven’t been off cadence once yet all game. The order sometimes changes after penalties but it’s always group 1 – group 2 – group 3. It will be interesting to see if it continues in the third.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:39 PM MST reply actions  

Why would it?

I don’t understand this. Can anyone explain the reasoning here?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Cycling the defencemen worked OK until they got 19 in the mix. That was a coaching error — arguanbly two kinds of coaching error — and right now is the difference in the game.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Keep everybody fresh? That’s the best I can think of.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

With minute-long television breaks, it shouldn’t be a concern.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

It shouldn’t but I’d bet it’s the rationale. And I’m more referring to keeping everyone on the bench fresh rather than keeping fresh legs on the ice.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure why they skipped the “4th” line, they scored on their first shift, drew a penalty on their second, and survived 24-43 on their third.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

It may have been that they were next up after 10 or it may have been the rather lengthy shift they took before the PP, though I’d think if they were going to sit them for that Nilsson wouldn’t have been out on the PP.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Another penalty drawn by the 4th line.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 1:56 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe they should get a shot ON the powerplay.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Cogliano has looked better on the wing tonight as well. That’s probably an important difference between the current 18-16-13 and the previous 18-13-46 and possibly one reason they’ve been better.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:01 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, funny that. Maybe they should have put 46 in the middle of that line too. Did you catch the pregame interview where Zack said he’d played centre a little in junior and then his entire first year of pro? I hadn’t been aware of that.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

18 has been uninspired today. It’s really tough to watch.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Him and eighteen other guys.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, my feed cut out. I assume this is when we score on a beautiful play between Moreau, Strudwick, and Jacques.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:05 PM MST reply actions  

Great shift for 13-16-18, at least up until Moreau got the puck in a passing situation with time to think about it. Two flubbed passes later, the puck was out of the zone.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:06 PM MST reply actions  

If they stick with the cadence we should be seeing 24-43 with 10 after the break. We’ll see.

Up to now we’ve had:

5-71 with 10
44-77 with 89
24-43 with 13
5-71 with 46 – Dallas penalty

Mishmash
24-43 with 18-13-46
77-44 with 89

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:09 PM MST reply actions  

We did see

Good call

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

5-71 with 10
24-43 with 13
77-44 with 46
5-71 with 89

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:09 PM MST reply actions  

Shots now 30-29 Dallas. Oilers could use a break, they likely “deserve” a point on balance.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:15 PM MST reply actions  

SMID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Curse you Stephane Robidas! Now he needs to start the steak over again!

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope, but I had a feeling that a tying goal might be in the cards. I think they deserved it, outplaying Dallas in each of the last 2 periods and pulling back a goal in each one.

I’m real happy for Smid, that’s a mountain lion off his shoulders. And a 1.5 pointer to boot. :)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m real happy for Smid, that’s a mountain lion off his shoulders. And a 1.5 pointer to boot. :)

I mean for predicting the Smid goal in our email exchange a few days ago

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

It was just a matter of time. Although I did notice recently the over/under line on Smid’s next goal being set for December 21, 2012.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Since the last break they’ve started moving some things around but the prediction did come true:

24-43 with 10
77-44 with 13
5-71 with 89
24-43 with 10-19-12
77-44 with 13
77-44 with 89
24-5 with 89

They seem to have lost 22, 32 and 46 as well as 43.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:16 PM MST reply actions  

Nilsson

is up and Jacques is down.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:21 PM MST reply actions  

For some reason I think that 12-10-32 would be better than 22-10-19

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought 32-46-12 was our best line today, not sure why any of them were sitting down the stretch to be honest. 13-16-18 was next best. I know, 4-3-2-1, but whatever.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ve been playing a lot of NHL 10 lately, so I’m shouting at Sam Gagner to set Brule up for the one-timer every time they go down the ice.

On the other hand… well, what they’re doing isn’t working.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:24 PM MST reply actions  

You know, if you’d told me before the game that we’d get a Bettman Point, I’d… well, we’ve established that.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions  

Shots currently 34-34, and I think they earned their BP.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

O’Sullivan on that left shift just stood in the zone. I wonder if he’s hurt?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:28 PM MST reply actions  

What position is Visnovsky playing? He was the high man in his own zone for about 30 seconds there. Nice backcheck by O’Sullivan who wound up down low paired with Horcoff for some reason. What a mess.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

Watch it again – Visnovsky chased his man high because O’Sullivan was just standing around. O’Sullivan never realized that Visnovsky went high and watched the play around him.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

OK, I will. POS did make a good emergency stick check, but he’s having a tough day. Play died with him 4 or 5 times just in the third.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Gagner and Penner

Curious that Bucky would go with Gagner and Penner rather than Brule and Penner in 4-on-4

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:30 PM MST reply actions  

Brule has had a tough game to my eye.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, but neither Brule nor Penner has breakaway speed.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Penner has breakaway strength. He’s had two breakaways in overtime this year just by overpowering the defender and blowing right through him.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Patrick O’Sullivan cannot take a pass.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions  

Boo to disparaging Conklin. We would be so much better off with Ty on his team.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I mean the a Conklinonacid of his late stint in Edmonton.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

So from the last commercial until the end of regulation we had:

24-5 with 89
77-44 with 10-19-12
5-71 with 13 – Goal
5-71 with 89
24-43 with 89
77-44 with New 10
43-71 with 13
44-77 with 89
44-77 with New 10

I don’t really understand what happened with the D, but they gave 5 a shift when behind by 1 and then once it was tied they sat 5 for 43 on one shift. They also cut down to three lines.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:34 PM MST reply actions  

And here’s OT

44-77-10-19
5-71-10-19
24-43-27-89
44-77-13-16
5-71-67-12
5-71-10-19
44-77-27-89
24-43-13-16

They got off their D cadence a bit but ended with 24-43 so it didn’t help them at all and they ran four pairs twice at F to close it out.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:36 PM MST reply actions  

I think this would make an interesting post.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah… but the fact that the Oilers just roll them over the boards isn’t exactly news.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s interesting that you tracked it and it’s a discussion point about the coaching.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Patty O’Lanterns! Worth every penny, Bruce.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:38 PM MST reply actions  

He really is good at the shoot-out.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Another guy really good at shoot-outs is Marty Turco. Nice save there.

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

First three good, next three bad. Frustratingly close.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions  

That was just a stupid good save by Turco.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions  

Screw you, Ribeiro

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions  

You know, a lot of web feeds have chats attached to them. Reading them can sometimes be interesting. Like when Shawn Horcoff came up as the next shooter, and the ‘wtf?!??’s came up from the Oiler fans even as Sportsnet kindly mentioned that Horcoff is 5/9 on the shootout so far this season.

Well, now he’s 6/10.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 5, 2009 2:45 PM MST reply actions  

Horcoff is 5/9 on the shootout so far this season.

Well, now he’s 6/10.

Career nos.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

First star: Ladi Smid: 21:51, 1-1-2, +2, 2 shots, 2 blocked shots, 9 ! hits

Over and out, I’m on the run.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 2:46 PM MST reply actions  

Two wins in a row! Hope lives!

by Scott Reynolds on Dec 5, 2009 2:46 PM MST reply actions  

Hope lives for Nilsson too. He’s looked really strong for two games in a row.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 5, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m very pleased to see Nilsson rise to the occasion on his return. I still hadn’t/haven’t given up hope on the kid. I was reading the other day somebody saying now that Hemsky is out we should be dumping Nilsson for nothing and my reply was that with Hemsky out this is the exact time we should be using the guy. If he’s no good he’ll help the tank job and if he’s good he’ll increase his trade value and if he’s real good maybe he’s worth keeping. So far** he’s been real good.

(** Yeah, I know)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 5, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions  

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