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Oilers v. Predators - Proverbs 19:1-3

Nashville Predators at Edmonton Oilers, Dec 17, 2009 7:30 PM MST


It's better to be poor with understanding than it is to be rich but foolish.

Zeal that ignores knowledge leads to disappointment; celebrate too much today and you will mourn tomorrow.

A man's own folly ruins his team, yet his heart rages against luck, injuries and God.

 

 

Nashville Predators (20-11-3) @ Edmonton Oilers (15-14-4)

Rexall Place, 7:30 P.M. MDT
Television: PPV

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report: The Nashville Predators have massively exceeded my expectations this year.  They have generally managed to outshoot (and outscore) their opponents so far this season.  Although their goal differential isn't impressive (95-95 including shoot-out markers) their 11-8 record in games decided by more than one goal suggests that they're a quality club (the Oilers, by comparison, have an 8-10 record in games decided by two or more).  A big part of this is their ability to stay out of the penalty box.  They're currently fourth in the NHL with only 121 minor penalties which is 25 better than the median of 146, or, almost one fewer minor penalty per game.  That can make a big difference.  The Predators are led offensively by their top line but have started to get more scoring from some of their depth players as well.  Five of the guys on their bottom two lines weren't "everyday" players last season (doesn't that sound familiar) and yet they've so far managed to put to combine into a nice team.  I don't really know how to evaluate coaching but if someone asked me who I thought was the best coach in the NHL I would probably pick Barry Trotz.

 

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (15-14-4):

Penner - Gagner - Brule
Nilsson -  Horcoff - Stone
Moreau - Potulny - Cogliano

Jacques - Stortini - O'Sullivan

Gilbert - Souray

Smid - Visnovsky
Grebeshkov - Staios


Deslauriers

 

Nahville Predators (20-11-3)

Erat - Arnott - Sullivan
Smithson - Legwand - Ward
Hornqvist - Goc - Dumont
Spaling - Jones - Belak

Weber - Suter
Hamhuis - Klein
Bouillon- Sulzer

Rinne

 

Behind the Numbers:

 

  • The Predators are 12-0-0 when they have the lead after two periods.  The Oilers are 8-0-1.  The Predators are 15-2-1 when they score first.  The Oilers are 10-3-2.  We're probably not going to be seeing a comeback tonight.
  • The Edmonton Oilers are the only team in the NHL that does not yet have a shorthanded goal which makes their 27th ranked penalty kill look even worse.
  • If the Oilers lose tonight they will be tied for 15th in the Conference in terms of points percentage.  If they were in the East, a loss would leave them in a tie for the final playoff spot.  Unbelievable.
  • Had Jason Arnott scored all of his 848 career regular season points as an Oiler, he'd be fifth on the all-time list behind only Gretzky, Kurri, Messier and Anderson.  He'd sure be a useful player on this team.
  • Steve Sullivan leads the Predators in scoring with 23 points which ties him for 75th in the NHL... hmmm...  The Predators have a total of 229 points on 91 goals scored (2.52 per goal) while the Oilers have 260 total points on 96 goals scored (2.71 per goal).  If I were a small-market team that didn't have much money to spend and I knew that offense was expensive might I suggest to my official scorer that he should be a bit less generous on doling out second assists?  Is this something the teams have control over?  I'm not sure but if they do, and this is intentional, it's genius
  • The Calgary Flames have lost two games in a row.  Now doesn't that just make you feel good... well... until you look at the standings.

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dam PPV game……

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 3:15 PM MST reply actions  

atdhe.net

Try this site if you don’t have another way of watching the game. Seems to be a pretty reliable source of streams for even PPV games (sometimes the quality’s a little iffy though).

by Blackbyrd on Dec 17, 2009 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks dude
but you dont always get them there though. i generally check out myp2p.eu

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

No problem

I’ll check out that site too. Atdhe’s got the game on their schedule tonight…doesn’t always mean it’ll be on, but it’s usually a pretty good sign too.

by Blackbyrd on Dec 17, 2009 7:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m watching on hockeystreams.com. PPV in a way, but a lot cheaper

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I like you , am extremely surprised too see Nashville doing well. I had pegged them to be a bottom team and contend for the lottery. But they have stuck together as a team and are playign well above expectations

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 3:16 PM MST reply actions  

In Scott’s defense, nhl.com puts your losing streak at 2……..

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

flames webiste does put it at 3….odd. nhl.com is generally reliable

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Penner and Brule are like peas and carrots.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 7:50 PM MST reply actions  

Good for you?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s a Forrest Gump reference.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Patrick O’Sullivan with the only official Oiler hit.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 7:54 PM MST reply actions  

Stortini touches up for icing …

… another career first, I reckon

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 7:55 PM MST reply actions  

Brutal clear by Nilsson, then another lost rebound for JDD. Guy has a helluva time getting ahold of the damn puck.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 7:58 PM MST reply actions  

I think he has a general problem with puck awareness. He never seems to have a sense for where the puck is.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a pretty serious problem for a @#$%^&* goalie.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t pretend to know much about goaltending other than they are crazy and weird. I’d love to see a real breakdown of JDD.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

As long as we don’t see a real breakdown by JDD

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I`ve thought this before

But it seems to go further than that: JDD doesn’t seem to understand angles. And I’m not talking about “cutting down the angle,” but more angles of reflection. Like when a shot goes wide of the net and hits the end boards hard, JDD seems to have no idea at all of where the pucks going to go afterwards. He just doesn`t seem to understand that the puck`s gonna reflect off the boards in a simple, predictable manner (well, most of the time, seams can occasionally mess that up) based on the angle at which it struck the boards. It`s baffling to me, cause it seems like, well, universal human intuition, but he just doesn`t seem to have any idea.

Am I crazy…JDD just seems to need a sit down with a high school math teacher.

by Blackbyrd on Dec 17, 2009 8:14 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s fine – I think you’re right. He’s always out of sorts trying to find the puck and seems to struggled very hard with it.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Nashville Goal

Lubo got beaten pretty badly there.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:07 PM MST reply actions  

Contrary to popular opinion, Lubo has some real warts in his game.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 8:11 PM MST up reply actions  

2nd Goal

JDD was all out of sorts again.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:13 PM MST reply actions  

Quinn

Is going to have a nervous breakdown.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:15 PM MST reply actions  

At least three times now, an Oiler has tried a soft flip to the corner rather than getting the puck deep. Moreau, Souray and Visnovsky.

That has to make Quinn go absolutely insane.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Perhaps he needs an herbal cigarette rather than his herbal supplements…

What a wacky period. I knew the Preds wouldn’t fold, but answering back with 3 goals is mind-boggling.

More fun than a stick to the face!
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by Dirk Hoag on Dec 17, 2009 8:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t know if it was an answer as much as a series of awful blunders by the Oilers.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:25 PM MST up reply actions  

True, but it takes hustle by any team to help create and/or take advantage of the other team’s blunders.

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by Dirk Hoag on Dec 17, 2009 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

O’Sullivan, Stortini and Jacques a -2 on the period.

Ugh.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:27 PM MST reply actions  

The plus machine that is Zack Stortini had met the minus machine that is Patrick O’Sullivan, and the results speak for themselves. If Horcoff can’t carry POS and JFJ, it’s a stretch to expect Zorg to.

That said, all the goals were more on the defence and goalies than anything the forwards were doing.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I think if Pouliot can get back in the next week he’s got a couple of weeks of breathing room to work with based on Lanterns performance.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s down to -15 on the season and seemingly getting worse as we go.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

how true…POWRPLAY!!!!!

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Those haven’t been good lately.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

we xcored one 2day didnt we

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 8:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Make that -16

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a -3 in 8 minutes.

Staios and Grebs are no great shakes tonight either.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

My god, that’s Tomas Vokoun’s music!

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 17, 2009 9:12 PM MST reply actions  

No way! Spinal injections will keep the wall strong!

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Any chance that this game will make Quinn and Renney think about matching lines and pairings?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:23 PM MST reply actions  

Just watched the period again – on the first power play Brule wins a footrace to the wall for a puck to keep the power play going inside the zone – great hustle. Too bad they couldn’t score to reward him for the work.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:24 PM MST reply actions  

Cogliano is working hard enough right now that he deserves time away from Ethan Moreau.

Cogliano – Pouliot – Potulny?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:30 PM MST reply actions  

Friggin Staios

TWICE in that sequence he had a chance to get the puck going but because he can’t pass he reversed it. That kept the puck in and then he took a penalty.

Jeez holy.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:32 PM MST reply actions  

Staios and Grebs have been a nightmare to this point.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

To my eye, Nilsson and Horc have been bad at ES.

Aside from “The Big Line” Cogliano has been the best forward.

Deslauriers is a mess, O’Sullivan is a mess, Visnovsky has been sloppy, the 24-37 pairing has been a mess.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

We generally play bad on PPV.

by SumOil on Dec 17, 2009 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Good eye. Corsi: Horcoff -15, Nilsson -13. 2 worst on the club, by a lot.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Their power play showing was overshadowing the fact that they were pinned down. O’Sullivan was pinned down too, but he wasn’t on much so it didn’t show.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

ARGH! Down by two with a minute to go and it’s…

STAIOS AND GREBS.

STOP ROLLING THE DAMNED PAIRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Derek Zona on Dec 17, 2009 9:59 PM MST reply actions  

Have we reached the bitter end yet?

Bruce, you’re hitting a game soon, right? Want to hit Renney about the head and shoulders for us?

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 17, 2009 11:47 PM MST up reply actions  

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