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There's a strange sort of lethargy that can come with a game like this. I live on the left coast and don't get Sportsnet West, so I was listening to this dog on 630 CHED with Bob Stauffer and whoever the other guy is. Say what you want about Bob Stauffer, and most of it was complimentary, but he never had Rod Phillips's ability to make a limp Patrick O'Sullivan wrister from the blue line sound like a Herculean scoring opportunity. A 0-0 draw with Minnesota, in Rod's hands, sounds like game seven of the Stanley Cup finals. Indeed, I almost regret not having listened to game seven of the Stanley Cup finals on CHED.

So the Oilers went down 3-0. "Yaaaaawn," I said (I didn't actually yawn; this fact is important). "Well, that four-game streak against crappy teams from the Sun Belt and Detroit, somehow, was nice. But we're back into traditional Oilers mode." It was good times! Jeff Deslauriers was whacking pucks into his own net, Gilbert Brule was doing things, Sam Gagner was back into the drop passes to nobody, Jason Strudwick being in the lineup (there's really nothing more to say about it; Strudwick's mere presence is an ill omen, like opening the back seat of your car and finding a carefully slaughtered goat)

And it was in that same slumbering spirit that I heard Gilbert Brule score (okay, I made a mocking comment at Derek in the game day thread, but that was about it). And Brule scored another one and I yawned and the Oilers tied it and the Oilers started winning and they got insurance and eventually I was sitting in my office chair looking forward with my mouth agape. Wait a minute: did we really win that game? I quickly went back to TSN to make sure I wasn't just on an extended acid trip like Denis Grebeshkov in double overtime. No, it was 5-3 Oilers. "Huh," I said. "How about that?"

Still not sure what to make of that.

Allegedly, the Oilers are one point back of a playoff spot. Well, the Oilers aren't going to make the playoffs, we all know that. We're catching them at their highest ebb. A couple more wins and we'll go from that awkward spot between hope and confidence, where you're beginning to wonder if you can actually make it and terrified that you can't.

For now, though, forget it. Let's celebrate.

Star-divide

Gilbert Brule! Gilbert Brule! Two goals, an assist! I know that some people (well, Derek, and probably Bruce, and maybe Scott, and Jonathan, and...) will say that he essentially attached a toe line to the utterly dominant Dustin Penner and rode behind like a gigantic sled dog, but screw that. Ask Patrick O'Sullivan how easy banking those gift-wrapped chances can be. A very nice snipe for the second goal, a bit of grit and stick-to-it-ness for his first. Two perfectly good goals. Did he struggle in the first forty minutes? Of course, but he made amends.

Dustin Penner I don't need to describe any further. Does anybody here know a hockey reporter from Edmonton in the 1980s? How did Jim Matheson spend a decade saying "yeah, Gretzky was great tonight" every single game? This is the problem with blogging. I have nobody to tell me these things.

Sam Gagner was a participant. I actually thought (remember, radio) that he was the worst part of the first line: too many crappy passes, not enough to make up for it. He's not a Reverse Three Star, but he could be.

On the other hand, we have a guy who was victimized by another person's stupid decisions: Sheldon Souray. Tossed from the game. Was this Bull Durham? Did Sheldon call him a cocksucker? Did he say the words "sloppy seconds"? Did Souray say something about Ty Conklin's wife, leading to a brawl on the ice and a fight in the penalty box that Stauffer somehow neglected to mention in his play-by-play? An ejection for dissent is, bluntly, the act of a man who's insecure. Give him an unsportsmanlike penalty, sure. Don't toss him for a first penalized offense.

I'm certainly not back on the bandwagon. I wouldn't even say I was really excited. Happy, sure, in a short-term "woo! I heard something pretty awesome!" sense. But I know that the Oilers play again on Tuesday against Ryan Smyth and the Los Angeles Kopitars and I know that they will not win. All our decent players except Penner are hurt, our best defenseman will apparently be suspended if he swears in public, and we never had that many decent players to begin with. If a team makes the playoffs with a pu-pu platter like this, it'll be the first.

But I spent most of my university years enjoying short-term pleasure without heed for the consequences, and I see no need to give that up now.

The Copper & Blue Reverse Three Stars:

18th Star: F Ethan Moreau, who was being chased for this "honour" by about a dozen other guys. Ethan! Ol' buddy! You made some nice plays, particularly in the third period where most of the Oilers were making some pretty good play. What distinguished you was not the depths of your misery but the height of your success, because that height was not too high. Your teammates were, for the most part, elevating their game, and you... kinda got better. Made a nice play in your own zone to spring Andrew Cogliano on a nice chance. Didn't take any crappy penalties while still getting your nose dirty.

Your first forty minutes were bad. Your last twenty weren't, really, but most of the rest were better than you. Actually, a forward did have a worse third period than either of your first two, but more on him later. After all, you were only eighteenth star.

19th Star: F Patrick O'Sullivan. Oh, Patrick. Patrick Patrick Patrick. You make me a sad human being, buddy. You're nicknamed after a Kim Mitchell song, and usually that'll make me like you. You're a sniper and you aren't afraid of anything and you have really weird, cool facial hair, but really, you're killing me. Every time you do pretty much anything I shout "WORTH EVERY PENNY!" just to stick it to Bruce. But whenever you screw up Bruce can remain silent to stick it to me, and he hasn't had to say a lot lately.

Lot of giveaways. Lot of easily-handled muffin shots. Not one moment of brightness, not one instant on the radio that made me say "LANTERNS!" in that exultant tone, even if it was ringing one off the post or making a nice defensive play or getting in the face of somebody who was bigger than him. He stunk. There was an awful lot of separation between him and Moreau. He was a brutal player and, that's right, he's not twentieth star.

20th Star: G Jeff Deslauriers. Allowed three goals, could easily have allowed more. Punched one into his own net. Didn't emerge with much credit on the other two. Was saved more by a bucketful of crappy shots and an improbable collapse by St. Louis's transition game. So, when's our starter going to be back? Not for a while? And he's Nikolai Khabibulin back anyway? Dammit.

Season-to-Date Standings:

26 points: Jason Strudwick

20 points: Ethan Moreau

11 points: Mike Comrie, Nikolai Khabibulin

9 points: Jeff Deslauriers, Steve Staios

8 points: Denis Grebeshkov, Patrick O'Sullivan

7 points: Jean-Francois Jacques

6 points: Sam Gagner

4 points: Ales Hemsky, Theo Peckham

3 points: Shawn Horcoff, Patrick O'Sullivan, Ryan Stone

1 point: Andrew Cogliano, Tom Gilbert, Ryan Potulny

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As I said when they were down 3-0, needs more Penner.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 PM MST reply actions  

One man show tonight. Well, Penner and the Liliputians.

9 CF, 16 CA without Penner out there

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by Derek Zona on Dec 11, 2009 9:54 PM MST reply actions  

Penner the MAN!!
Also I dont agree with JDD as the 20th star, He had a bad game but he wasnt the worst player on ice. Also in the 3rd he made 2 or 3 really good saves!

by SumOil on Dec 11, 2009 10:00 PM MST reply actions  

Nilsson’s pass to Horcoff was top-notch

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by Derek Zona on Dec 11, 2009 10:08 PM MST reply actions  

Beauty return pass. That was a nice flash of offensive imagination. That’s a point in all 5 games since he’s been back, and he’s cut that horrific -12 in half in just that time. Oil are 5-0-0 since Nilsson and Stone returned to the lineup. Hard to imagine it’s all them, but they sure as hell haven’t been hurting the cause.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 11, 2009 10:53 PM MST up reply actions  

No Grits, No Glory

I thought Nilsson stunk
How do you say “muscled off the puck” in Swedish?
I think Kenta Jr is in the wrong conference.

I see Dennis had him at +2/-7

I agree, nice pass tho’
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by Mr DeBakey on Dec 12, 2009 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I spent most of my university years enjoying short-term pleasure without heed for the consequences, and I see no need to give that up now.

That’s the spirit! That’s why I can’t buy in to all these morose Eeyore types with their loser talk about let’s just tank the season and pick some 18-year-old kid and then wait another 3 or 4 or 5 years for that guy to lead us out of the wilderness. Screw that, I’m too old for that shit, I just want to enjoy tonight. Kinda like university except for different reasons. Actually I’ve always been like that.

But whenever you screw up Bruce can remain silent to stick it to me, and he hasn’t had to say a lot lately.

* crickets *

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 11, 2009 10:37 PM MST reply actions  

what are you quoting?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 11, 2009 11:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t ask me what I did. It’s like quotes within a quote. The two things in the little boxes are the actual quotes.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 12:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I spent most of my university years enjoying short-term pleasure without heed for the consequences, and I see no need to give that up now.

That’s the spirit! That’s why I can’t buy in to all these morose Eeyore types with their loser talk about let’s just tank the season and pick some 18-year-old kid and then wait another 3 or 4 or 5 years for that guy to lead us out of the wilderness. Screw that, I’m too old for that shit, I just want to enjoy tonight. Kinda like university except for different reasons. Actually I’ve always been like that.

But whenever you screw up Bruce can remain silent to stick it to me, and he hasn’t had to say a lot lately.

* crickets *

[Better?]

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s a harsh 20th star. JDD looked bad on the first goal and not so great on the third, and maybe the second wasn’t all that wonderful either, but … oh, forget it.

I agree entirely on 18 and 19 — or should I say #18 and #19, it’s like it’s preordained or something :). Maybe they should change Strudwick’s number to 20.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 11, 2009 10:51 PM MST reply actions  

I can’t believe O’Sullivan only has 3 points on the season. Maybe he really is worth every penny.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 11, 2009 11:02 PM MST up reply actions  

He earned it. The first and third was enough.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 11, 2009 11:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey, the kid has a 5-game winning streak. He took a nasty knock tonight and got up off the matt to slam the door. Don’t you know it’s all about Big saves?

Deslauriers’ stats during the streak: 5-0-0, 1.94, .938. He’s given up 1 goal in the third period, none in OT, and won two shootouts. I don’t know what your expectations were, but mine are being wildly exceeded at the moment.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 12:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I am with Bruce on this one. JDD had a below average outing with some good flashes,
He took a nasty blow but was Dlutch in the 3rd period. May be he could be in the bottom 5-6 players on the ice, but he was hardly the 20th star

by SumOil on Dec 12, 2009 7:34 AM MST up reply actions  

You know the old saw about the goalie needing to be the best penalty killer? Well last night, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say JDD was our best powerplayer. Stopped the one clearcut breakaway, and the play where he got dinged was a good chance too. Dennis had our PP at +2/-3 on the night, which pretty much sums up how bad things were with the man advantage.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Epic fail on the reverse three stars, Ben. You had me laughing with the goat line, but how does Steve Staios not make the cut? Minus-10 by Corsi, minus-8 by scoring chances: Steve Staios put in a Monster performance and you failed to recognize it ;)

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by Jonathan Willis on Dec 11, 2009 11:58 PM MST reply actions  

Strudwick +1/-9 on scoring chances, and he completely missed Backes on that wraparound. He just had to drive his shoulder into him and there’s no play at all there.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 12:27 AM MST up reply actions  

5 more Bettman Points awarded tonight out of 8 games. In the last 48 hours the following Western Conference teams have been involved in 3-point games: NAS, CBJ, PHX, L.A, MIN, CAL, ANA, DET, DAL, S.J, COL. So the Oilers with their regulation win gained 1 or 0 points on all those teams, and gained 2 only on STL, the team they beat directly. In a 3-point-must system the Oil would have (deservedly) made up ground on the lot.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 12:44 AM MST reply actions  

The Oilers are three games below .500, the Canucks three games above. They have played the same number of games. Thanks to the Bettman point, the Oilers are still only two points back despite a six-game swing.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 12, 2009 1:17 AM MST up reply actions  

That's one interpretation

OT/SO Wins also benefit from the B.P., you can’t just count loser points. Records in regulation are:

VAN 15-14-2 (+1)
EDM 11-13-8 (-2)

Oilers are 4-4 in SO, Canucks 2-0, so we’ve gained 4 points over traditional ties, they’ve gained 2. Result: Tied in the standings, Canucks with one game in hand.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 12, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

See, I think you can just count loser points, operating on the assumption that every game should be a two-point game.

If you think every game should be a three-point game (which I do, but which I didn’t want to get into for the purpose of that comparison), that changes things too. But just counting every tie after sixty minutes as a tie is a rather arbitrary bound considering how long we’ve had overtime.

by Benjamin Massey on Dec 12, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I have to agree about JDD not really being the worst player on the ice. That would’ve been a toss-up between POS and poor, overmatched Strudwick. However, all things being equal, JDD has started what, like 10 games in a row? 11 maybe? Given the incredibly screwy development curve the kid has had, when was the last time he started that many games consecutively? A rough night when his sv% is still .900 is not really that rough. I don’t love the kid, I am totally not buying into any theories of his brilliance, but goat of the game he was not. Numbers and stats people (Scott, JW) if either of you could maybe see if you can find out the last time he’s played this much, that would be an interesting stat to look at. I would wager it’s been since his time in the Q. Given that Dubnyk played 33 games behind JDD’s 57 that first year in Springfield, odds are he didn’t have to play a stretch quite like this at any point in his pro career. Adding that he only played 40 for the baby pens the year before, I say good on him for the way he’s played in this situation!
However, his positioning still sucks…

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by Stephen Sheps on Dec 12, 2009 10:15 AM MST reply actions  

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