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Oilers v. Avalanche - Luke 18:9-14

Edmonton Oilers at Colorado Avalanche, Nov 8, 2009 5:00 PM PST


Then Jesus came across some who were confident in their team, a team that looked down on everyone else from the top of the standings and so he told them this parable:

"Two men walk into a bar, one a fan of the Avalanche, the other a fan of the Oilers.  The fan of the Avalanche stood up and prayed about himself loudly saying, 'God I thank you that our team is not like other teams - like the Oilers, Thrashers or Panthers - and that I myself am not wallowing in misery like this pathetic Oiler fan.  We win at least twice a week and every day I give thanks for our new goaltender.'  But the fan of the Oilers watched the game with his face in his hands; he could barely watch.  He slammed his head to the bar and whispered over and over, 'God have mercy on me, an Oiler fan.'  I tell you today that it is this man and the one filled with hubris who went home justified before God.  For everyone who exalts himself before God will be humbled and he who humbles himself before God will be exalted."

 

Edmonton Oilers (7-8-1) @ Colorado Avalanche (12-3-2)

Pepsi Center, 6:00 P.M. MDT
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report: So are they for real?  No.  Jonathan Willis continues to prophesy doom for the Avalanche this year and I'm inclined to agree with him.  The Avalanche have been consistently outshot and (I know because I'm counting) outchanced all season.  Jonathan compared their early season run to one put up by the Ottawa Senators a couple of years ago.  I'll compare it to a team that has a lot in common with this group: the 2008-09 Florida Panthers.  That club had a run from January 3rd to February 13th where they went 12-3-3 which, if the Avs lose in overtime tonight (and I'd be fine with that result!) would match their opening to the season exactly.  If we take out the shoot-out goals the Panthers goal differential over that time was +20 compared to the Avs at +15.  Both teams employed Craig Anderson and both teams had a shot differential worse than -4.5.  And the Panthers missed the playoffs, finishing 9th in the Conference with a solid 93 points.  And that's about where I expect the Avalanche to end up.

As for what to expect from them, the Avalanche are very good on the penalty kill.  Over the last seven games they've allowed two power play goals and scored two shorthanded for a pretty darn good goal differential of 0.  The power play, on the other hand, has been very poor for the Avalanche over the last seven games scoring only one goal and generating very little in the way of scoring chances.  Wojtek Wolski has been the best player on the squad so far this year and Oiler fans may remember his wonderful goal in Edmonton a few weeks back (they certainly don't remember any Oiler goals from that game).  Milan Hejduk and Paul Stastny have both played much better recently than they did at the start of the year while Matt Duchene has started to struggle (remember Sam Gagner).  The Avs shut-down pair of Hannan and Quincey have done a very good job so far this year while soft-minutes specialist John-Michael Liles has been so bad that I think the Oilers are the team that's getting screwed with Liles out of the Avs lineup with injury.

 

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (7-8-1):

Penner - Gagner - O'Sullivan
Comrie - Brule - Nilsson
Reddox - Cogliano - Pisani

Moreau - Potulny - Stortini

Grebeshkov - Gilbert

Chorney - Visnovsky
Strudwick - Staios


Khabibulin

 

Colorado Avalanche (12-3-2)

Jones - Stastny - Hejduk
McLeod - Duchene - Svatos
Wolski - O'Reilly - Stewart
Koci - Dupuis - Hendricks

Hannan - Quincey
Foote - Cumiskey
Clark - Wilson

Anderson

 

 

Behind the Numbers:

  • John-Michael Liles currently has a scoring chance percentage of 30.0%.  The next worst Avalanche player is at 38.8%.  John-Michael Liles has a cap hit of 4.2M for the next three years.  I don't think there's a worse overpay on the Oilers.  And that's saying something.
  • The Avalanche are currently ranked second overall in penalty killing efficiency at 86.1% behind only the New York Rangers (86.6%).  I guess Tom Renney left that part of his genius behind.
  • The Oilers and Avalanche are ranked 29th and 30th respectively in team faceoff percentage. Believe it or not the Oilers, at 47.2%, have a substantial lead.  The Avs are at 44.4%.
  • Here's the complete list of players suiting up for this game (both teams) with a Corsi of even or better: Dustin Penner, Lubomir Visnovsky, Liam Reddox, Ryan Potulny.  The Avs Corsi leader is Kyle Cumiskey at -0.970/15. 
  • Craig Anderson's PK save percentage so far this season is .927 on 124 shots.  Last season, only five goalies who faced 100 PK shots posted a PK save percentage over .900 (the leader was Niklas Backstrom at .918).  Craig Anderson was one of them (.910 on 200 shots).  The year before that he put up .850 on 107 shots.  That's quite the range. 

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great stuff

Awesome, Scott, my God that’s good.

Unfortunately I belive the Oilers’ fan will continue to be humbled, at least until the flu and injuries have worked their way out.

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 9:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Aye. This organization has a lot of past self-exaltation to atone for. I mean, how long was Glen Sather “the best GM in the league if only he had money.”

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I concur. That was fantastic stuff.

# Here’s the complete list of players suiting up for this game (both teams) with a Corsi of even or better: Dustin Penner, Lubomir Visnovsky, Liam Reddox, Ryan Potulny. The Avs Corsi leader is Kyle Cumiskey at -0.970/15.

Oh Reddox and Potulny. Cool. Heyyyyyyy wait a minute!

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess Tom Renney left that part of his genius behind.

You mean the part where he leaves Hank Lunqvist in net?

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by Doogie2K on Nov 8, 2009 9:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

soft-minutes specialist John-Michael Liles has been so bad that I think the Oilers are the team that’s getting screwed with Liles out of the Avs lineup with injury.

hahahahahahha

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I want to see Liles out there for sure. I went to the Colorado at Edmonton game last week (a 3-0 Avs win) and I missed him that night too.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since you have followed the avs closely, you might be able to answer this:
Why is Wolski on 3rd line when he is producing at quite a high rate, or his production is the result of playing on the 3rd line?

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 11:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

He’s moved up and down the lineup. He’s played quite often with Stastny and Hejduk and he may yet end up there tonight. They sometimes move Wolski down the lineup to get more balance probably. It gives him a chance to take on some lessers and he usually doesn’t disappoint.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If the line combos are correct, it’s interesting to see the relative positions of Ethan Moreau and Liam Reddox on the LW depth chart. Thecaptain is pretty locked in on Pat Quinn’s fourth line.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

doenst deserve to be any higher

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The guy’s a crummy hockey player, but crummier than Liam Reddox?

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 8, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

These are the lines they practiced with yesterday, so I’d imagine that’s what they’ll go with today. I think Quinn actually likes the Moreau-Stortini pairing which is why they’re staying together. I remember earlier in the year him saying Cogliano and Gagner played better when they were put with 18 and 46 (at different times obviously).

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Penner, O’Sullivan, and Gagner! The POG line! As in they’ll briefly get lots of attention but soon be completely extinct.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 8, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i thnk sully will have a good game tonight

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's certainly due

Last 8 GP, 0-2-2, -8

Similar “production” as Nilsson for an extra $1 MM

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Scoring Chances

As per Dennis’ chances data:

The Oilers have five players at even or better in chances:
Visnovsky, Souray, Penner, Gagner, Comrie

Peckham is surrendering 10.703 Chances Against / 15

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am terrified

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

2 fo wins in a row

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Avs are the worst FO team in the league. Only O’Reilly is decent.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Way to go Zorg. Crash the crease, beak off Koci, then talk nice to the ref.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

shots a plenty

but right at the goalie

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lucky break

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We’ll need as many of those as we can get. Hopefully Reddox is okay.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Goal Scorer?

Did Debrusk just call Comrie a goal scorer?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I believe he did.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Loosely defined, I guess

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at the rest of the roster. Beggars can’t be choosers.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Moral relativity, I love it.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Strudwick is a very ornery mood this evening. I like it.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

5 on 3???? wtf

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

never mind

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was a really good kill – Penner and Pisani were more aggressive than I’ve seen the Oilers on the PK recently.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yeah…pisani has looked good so far

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are the changes stunted or do we have:

Grebeshkov – Staios
Chorney – Gilbert
Strudwick – Visnovsky

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think things got confused with Strudwick’s penalty.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody should teach Ethan Moreau how to block a shot before he retires. That was pathetic.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hope chorney cmes back

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he’s not as bad as Strudwick and Staios in limited action, so, get better.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gilbert

Gilbert has to be better on the man in front than he was there. He didn’t try to push or tie him up at all.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He rarely does. He almost always plays the puck on those scrambles. I agree that they need to teach him to take a man but so far it’s been a consistent part of his game. He plays the puck defending a lot of other plays as well.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That spinaround pass by O’Sullivan was a real, uh, POS.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no more blind passes please

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s like little Sammie from last year

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why why why is Lanterns still on the point?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Another one.

He has to lead the league in shots blocked.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He uses the spin-around blind pass/shot quite a lot. Remember that “amazing vision” on Penner’s goal in the CBJ game :)

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The “blind squirrel” pass?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His vision is nice going forwards :)

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. So much for my, “they have a good PK” in the preview. They really do though. Also, Anderson’s PK Sv% is taking a bit of a correction this evening.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who says hits aren't important?

Stortini ran the D and the guy dumped it over the glass —> PP -→ Goal

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least they didn’t, you know, put him on the ice for that whole middle part.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Potulny did a good job on the screen

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hehe.

Is the old man running the power play?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he had a godly PK sv%. I think averages are catching up to him now

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Previews

Aw, don’t feel bad, big guy – your previews are the best.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gilbert scores!!!

All the more reason why there should be him instead of POS

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

strongly agree

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

our coach doesnt learn…..

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sum – you should coach the power play.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol!!! My buddy and I have a blueprint of our version of the powerplay!!!

We made is last season and spent 3 hours doing so….

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember, the greatest used to operate from behind the net

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow….who can frget tht

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“Last Chance” Nilsson looking good tonight

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

3/3

I hope Hemsky is taking notes

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

was the POS who passed?

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i liked gagner’s work in the 1st poerplay….he seemed more aware

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PP goal again

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Give credit where due, POS made another “blind squirrel” pass to Penner, and Dustin dunked it. But then O’Sullivan lined up on the point in the last 10 seconds of the period and got burned for a 2-on-1 which could have been devastating. Great defensive plays by Vis and Penner saved his bacon that time. Penner was flying on the back check … gotta like that.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the flying fridge

as david staples will say

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s like putting the Staples Signal on.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m tracking scoring chances for this one since it’s an Avs game and I have it at 9-6 Avs after one period, 8-3 Avs at EV. Let’s hope they don’t give this one away.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

3 PP scoring chances, 3 goals? Nice

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sustainable as long as the boys have the fight in em

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Prior to this game:

47 GF

Penner 23 GFON

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

amicus brief ftw

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PK

Reddox and Pisani on the PK. Interesting.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

PK

Cogliano – Moreau
Penner – O’Sullivan
Reddox – Pisani

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

all three have been fine

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Eberle

another multi point night for him…2 goals tonigh so far

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well that should be a penalty on 24

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Obvious one too, but that’s a makeup call for the other night.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brule

Buddy looks completely lost out there.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

aaaaaaah

about time they scored

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice hit by 24

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I wasn’t a bit surprised to see Quincey give him a shot as the play went up ice.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a loss waiting to happen. The beatdown at evens is too much to overcome.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know, the Avs won a few games like this. The irony would be grand.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah…lol..

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

O'Sullivan

If O’Sullivan TRIED to shoot at the opponent’s legs, he couldn’t hit them this much.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That is one ugly plunk to Scott Hannan. Still no Chorney either.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i hope they arent out for long

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chorney

unless someone else is wearing 41, he’s back

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I saw him shortly after I posted that comment (I saw a 4?) but then the puck came back down ice and it was 71 and 37 out there. Thanks for the heads up Derek.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s taken two pretty decent hits since being back too.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Comrie….bonehead

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’ve quite liked Liam Reddox on the PK so far. He seems to be a little more aggressive on the forecheck than most.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He’s not been as out of place as some other Oilers.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like Cogliano

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FYI, my scoring chances are way off what Sportsnet has.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I, for one, am shocked!

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you have our support

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We’ll see what Dennis has.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they had 9-7. At that point I had 18-9

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

highlight of the season fr 43

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he should retire right now

‘boys it ain’t getting better than this’ (doffs helmet)

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Am I crazy for wanting Penner – Gagner – Potulny?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think so. We’re getting slaughtered at EV regardless so it might be worth switching things up.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Part II

Prior to this game:

37 ESGA

Penner: 6 GAON

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

When Smid comes back who comes out? I guess it will be Chorney but should it be?

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 6:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not according to the numbers. Should be Strudwick

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would think so too but Renney has a boner for 43. For 41 too considering the amount of icetime he feeds him.

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I doubt Renney pulls 43 but I’ll worry about having too many healthy D when it actually happens. I’m still not overly enthused about 41 so if 5 is ready and they take out one of 43 or 41 I’m a happy camper. Once 44 is good to go you pull the other one. Done deal.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

SC DIFF/15:

43: -2.168
41: -1.768

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How much ice did 43 see partnered with 71? How much did 41 see?

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think 41 only had 1 game with Lubo.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i hope its strudwick…………Chorney has outplayed him so far

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there you go

All you need to win is desperation.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you also need commitment.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If desperation was all it took to win I’d be A#1, King of the Hill, etc etc.

I think it takes a little bit of moxy, some sexy and a little stick to it iveness. Ness.

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

See? That’s why I can’t turn it around.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your problem is that you are not desperate enough. Desperation is still very important but its not the only thing.

But its very important.

And you, pal, are not desperate enough. You’re just going through the motions, if I can be frank with you. I know desperation and I just don’t see it from you. Sorry.

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this quoted from a “Dear John” letter you wrote to a girl in your youth?

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, its not you, its me

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a friend that actually smells of desperation – it’s not working out for him.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah that’s usually the truth

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So, he just lacks the sexy? I mean he has the stick to it iveness. Ness.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re 100% desperate I think its moxy you’re lacking more than anything. I’m trying to remember … yeah I think its moxy.

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Scoring chances in the second: 10-3 Avs, 7-1 EV, 3-1 PP.
Scoring chances overall: 20-9 Avs, 16-4 EV, 4-1 PP, 0-3 SH.

That’s pretty ugly.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lord Holy.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Home/Away

Quinn LOVES the Home/Away breakdown in stats.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kevin, I mean.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please?

Pretty please for the second time?

Can I please get Penner – Gagner – Potulny?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Potulny tears it up and then they can’t keep him up because he hasn’t cleared waivers yet. Then he gets claimed on re-entry. Book it.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i sure hope not

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maginot

Maginot line being maginot line right there.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah…too many times he has gone down too soon

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness to him, he’s been pretty good tonight overall. But yeah, that play was awful.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He has one of those awful plays every game. His brain just goes Sproink and we’re off!

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As long as you promise it’ll only be one tonight.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

interesting

the worst player on both teams are their respective captains

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

any bets??

5th pp goal coming up

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You are much too hopeful my friend

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha…that was just a joke

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The only two players I feel comfortable with having the puck are Penner and Visnovsky.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hey now, Potulny and Reddox came into the game with an even Corsi too.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was a true laugh out loud.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is one poorly timed too-many-men penalty.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Reddox with the scramble. Nice.

And Quinn “All of them on the road!”

Like if matters you…Kevin.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

finally

even strength goal

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Now all bulin has to do is be khluch

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

khlutch*

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t say that!!!!!!

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

by my eye the 85/13/34 line has been ok, even before the goal but I missed the first half

yes? no?

by Pat Mc on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The whole team was terrible for the first two periods. The third was BY FAR the best they’ve played tonight.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pisani

That was a sweet play.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wow....

Penner – Gagner – Potulny close the game.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

prophetic derek

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

third period chances : 8-3 Oilers; 4-3 Oilers EV; 4-0 Oilers PP; 0-0 SH
overall: 17-23; 8-19 EV; 8-0 PP; 1-4 SH

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

8-19 is better than I thought at EV

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by Derek Zona on Nov 8, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Oilers actually played a very strong third. I was expecting it to be holding on for dear life but they were much more controlled in the third. Harder on the puck too.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its funny both the winners today had the same story.
below average for 2 periods but an extrmely strong 3rd

by SumOil on Nov 8, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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