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Oilers v. Avalanche - Ecclesiastes 9:11-12

Colorado Avalanche at Edmonton Oilers, Nov 18, 2009 7:00 PM MST


This is what I have noticed about what transpires on the ice:
The game is not always given to the fast
and victory does not always present itself to the strong.
Wise management is not always rewarded
and strong underlying numbers do not guarantee a win.
Time and chance happen to them all.

No team knows when its hour has come.
Just as a fish gets caught in a cruel net,
Or a tree is felled after years of standing by an Avalanche,
so some fans grow accustomed to luck
and think it skill
When the luck turns
they are devastated by the mounting losses
.

 

 

Colorado Avalanche (13-5-3) @ Edmonton Oilers (8-10-3)

Rexall Place, 7:00 P.M. MDT
Television: TSN

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report: The Colorado Avalanche are coming off a win last night in Calgary, a bit of a bounce back game for them after the 8-2 drubbing that Vancouver gave them on Saturday night.  The Avalanche have started to cool off from their hot start going 5-4-1 over their last ten games.  I expect that their record will continue to get a bit worsen over the course of the season, though they may never completely bottom out on a long losing streak.  Although it's unreasonable to expect them to stay near the top of the Conference (thought the first 250 NHL games of the season the Avalanche were the worst team in the league in terms of outshooting when the game is tied) they should stay around the playoff bubble.  It will be interesting to see how the Avalanche management reacts at the trade deadline.  Before the season they were probably going to be moving out guys with expiring contracts but if they're in the playoff picture that plan may change.

The most impressive Avalanche forward continues to be Wojtek Wolski and the most impressive player is Craig Anderson (who was again the biggest reason for an Avalanche win last night yet again).  With this being the Avs second game in two nights, Anderson will likely need to shine again if the Avs are going to win.  Milan Hejduk is back in the lineup after being out the last time these two teams met.  Joe Sacco has recently started playing Hejduk with Matt Duchene in an effort to get Duchene out of a bit of a slump (he hasn't been scoring well, but he's also been badly outchanced over the last several games).  If you remember Sam Gagner's first season it's really quite similar stuff.

 

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (8-10-3):

Penner - Horcoff - Hemsky
Comrie -  Gagner - O'Sullivan
Reddox - Brule - Potulny

Moreau - Cogliano - Stortini

Smid - Visnovsky

Souray - Gilbert
Strudwick - Staios


Deslauriers

 

Colorado Avalanche (13-5-3)

Wolski - Stastny - Jones
Tucker - Duchene - Hejduk
McLeod - O'Reilly - Stewart
Svatos - Hensick - Koci

Hannan - Quincey
Cumiskey - Foote
Russell -Methot

Anderson

 

Behind the Numbers:

  • Ryan O'Reilly leads all rookies in even strength points with 15 and in +/- at +12.  He leads the Avalanche in pts/15 with 0.908/15 and in faceoff percentage with 49.0%.  He's also playing three minutes per game on the penalty kill.  Admittedly, I haven't seen a lot of games many of the other rookies in the NHL have played but right now I would pick O'Reilly for rookie of the year. 
  • With Ryan O'Reilly leading the Avalanche at 49.0% on faceoffs, the only player in the game who has won more draws than he's lost (minimum 50 draws) is not Shawn Horcoff.  It's Gilbert Brule.
  • So far this season Oiler goalies have a save percentage of .971 when Steve Staios is on the ice.  When Jason Strudwick Oiler goalies have a save percentage of .899. 
  • Ethan Moreau is now only 7 PIMs behind Marty McSorley for 13th on the Oilers all-time list.  He needs one minor penalty to take the lead in minor penalties on the season (he's currently tied with linemate Zack Stortini and defender Denis Grebeshkov).
  • Ales Hemsky needs only 2 more goals to reach 100 for his career.  The Oilers have only had 16 players reach that mark in an Oiler uniform.  10 C+B points to anyone who can name more of them than Bruce off the top of their head.
  • Ladislav Smid is currently sitting in a tie for 360th in +/- as an Oiler with -32 for his Oiler career.  He'll need to be bad for a lot more seasons to catch former Oiler captain Kelly Buchberger who's in last place (371st) with -99.

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O'Dontgetmestarted

Don’t hate the player but he’s not delivering bang for the buck. He’s the fourth biggest contract up front so should be expected to pace secondary scoring. The only pacing being done is by me, waiting, waiting, forever waiting for the guy to score. He is himself on pace for a 12-goal, minus-20 season.

O’Sullivan has now played 40 games in Edmonton, during which time he has put up a very underwhleming 5-13-18, -12 in copious ice time. For this desultory half season he’s made a million and a half dollars.

It’s past time to be turning it around. I’m generally a patient man when it comes to young players, but second contract is not that young anymore.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

# Ales Hemsky needs only 2 more goals to reach 100 for his career. The Oilers have only had 16 players reach that mark in an Oiler uniform. 10 C+B points to anyone who can name more of them than Bruce off the top of their head.

Kurri, Tikkanen, Gretzky, Messier, Anderson, Simpson, Weight, Smyth, Marchant, MacTavish, Klima, Horcoff, Moreau and I think Buchberger.

Coffey

Who in the hell am I missing? Arnott? Did he make it before the trade?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 3:31 PM MST reply actions  

Well done

Your order’s more than a little wonky, but you got all but one. Buchberger didn’t make it, but Dave Hunter did. Same hands, different era. :)

Hard to belive that Ales Hemsky, in his 7th NHL season, is still on the outside looking in on the obviously-not-that-elite 100-Goal Club. There’s playmakers even better than Ales on that list, but they were all great finishers as well.

Just sayin’. Need I add, sayin’ while genuflecting three times to the east and thanking Yahweh for Ales’s Value Contract.

But still sayin’: You want to be considered an elite offensive player? Just put the puck in the net, son.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 3:55 PM MST reply actions  

My order is wonky? Sir, I put the best two Oilers first.

So Bucky didn’t get in, but Arnott did?

There are some guys in my head that had to get close but no Ciger: Callighen, Grier, Bucky (now that I know), Lowe, Huddy, Krushelnyski…

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

No Ciger :)

Here you go: the 44 Oilers with 50+ goals.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Bucky, Grier, Lowe and Huddy are a lot further away than I thought.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow. Dave freaking Hunter. He would not have been in my next 10 guesses.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 6:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Comrie

Tencer says Comrie may be out tonight based on his bloodwork from yesterday.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 5:46 PM MST reply actions  

Annnnnnd Comrie is out.

Mono? What else comes back from bloodwork?

How is Pouliot’s pubis?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 6:14 PM MST reply actions  

That PP was looking really good. It’s one thing about the Oilers season that’s actually been significantly improved over last year in spite of some strange personnel choices (Stortini).

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:18 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, I was impressed there. People were moving.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m interested to see what happens with Souray in on a regular basis. Are they going to go back to feeding the point ad nauseam or are they going to add some work down low. I know that Wayne Fleming has apparently had success with that in the past.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Given Hemsky and Gagner and their passing talent, I’d love to see some work below the goal line.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Lines?

27-10-83
13-89-83
85-67-19
18-16-46

That’s what I’ve seen so far. I assume Strudwick is back on D rather than playing up front? Arsene is sitting?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:22 PM MST reply actions  

They definitely have 85-67-19 working together and I’ve only seen 13 out there with 89-83.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Penner

Nice penalty kill :) draw a penalty

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:23 PM MST reply actions  

Milan Hejduk with the Patty O’Sullivan special there.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:26 PM MST reply actions  

Just a ton of penalties called so far.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:28 PM MST reply actions  

It would be nice to draw even here. Couple of guys deserve one based on their play so far

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Instead it was their worst PP of the game. Ugh.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah – the first unit wouldn’t just dump it to the corner. That was frustrating.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess with Comrie out they’re just playing with 7D again. Chris Minard still hasn’t returned from his concussion yet so it must be pretty bad. After that there really isn’t much to call up that would be better than playing Strudwick at wing. Might be worth buying Linglet’s contract though.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:33 PM MST reply actions  

It’s insane to think that they started the year with 137 forwards and now they have 11.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be so bad if they weren’t so afraid to claim guys off of waivers. Especially guys on re-entry. How bad could it be?

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions  

They need to see what they have when they are healthy.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Ryan Wilson’s done well with the chances too (if you’re watching TSN). The Flames sent him to Colorado for Jordan Leopold at the deadline. That’s a move they might well regret.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:35 PM MST reply actions  

Point shots

You would know this better than most, but against Colorado, I don’t think point shots are going to work. They block so many shots.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:37 PM MST reply actions  

They do indeed block a lot of shots but that kind of thing happens when the puck is always in your zone :)

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:39 PM MST up reply actions  

HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION!

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Hooray for Budaj getting the start!

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:40 PM MST reply actions  

Chris Stewart is terrible. T.E.R.R.I.B.L.E. I’m convinced that he would be the worst forward on the Oilers tonight if he were playing.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Including Strudwick?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Quite sure that the answer to that would be yes. He’s a lot like Strudwick though. He does all that stuff that old school hockey folks love. You know, works hard, stands up for teammates, hits a lot. But he’s not very good at hockey.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions  

He would be at home in Edmonton.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions  

damn i hate school……i always miss a part of the game

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 7:41 PM MST reply actions  

Well, except for the first line, the Oilers stink.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 7:42 PM MST up reply actions  

story of our season

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

No Ryan O’Reilly in the ROY quiz!? Boo to TSN!

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 7:54 PM MST reply actions  

But he is Canadian and all of the guys they picked were playing for US teams (Tavares, Varlamov, Myers and JVR)… and only two Canadians.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t think that there is anything Quinn can do until he has some health. The current group of forwards is awful. And while Moreau deserves a scratch, he can’t because of community involvement or something.

I can’t believe I am wishing a speedy return for Comrie and Stone.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:03 PM MST reply actions  

I agree Moreau deserves a scratch and there’s nothing wrong with doing it as far as I’m concerned but they can’t scratch him now. They only have 11 healthy forwards.

Plus, Quinn seems to really like the 18-46 combo.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Lordy. Brule has a laser.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:04 PM MST reply actions  

Great hustle by Souray – some other vets should take note.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

All hail Petr Budaj and the nine-hole!

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:05 PM MST reply actions  

Don’t know what happened there. That was supposed to be J! D! D! J! D! D! J! D! D!

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Why in the hell was JDD so deep?!

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:06 PM MST reply actions  

Potulny

He’s really being wasted on that 18-46 line.

He’s going to get outchanced this game.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:07 PM MST reply actions  

The Avs announcers are calling Deslauriers

Day LA Ray

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:11 PM MST reply actions  

One of them is usually Peter McNab. You’d think he’d be pretty accustomed to pronouncing French names.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe this is just a different goalie and the Avs announcers have the inside track. Daylaray sucks.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions  

The Oilers aren’t trying that cross-seam pass on the PP that worked for them so well in that last game against the Avs. It’s possible that it’s just not there this game but the lack of movement through the box in the last two PP tries has been conspicuous by its absence.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:17 PM MST reply actions  

Unbelievable that Hemsky missed that one but what a fabulous pass that was from Lubo (and since I’m talking to Derek, yes, it was also a nice drive to the net by Penner).

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

The first line is on fire tonight, yet again, and there’s nothing else going on elsewhere.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:25 PM MST up reply actions  

wow we are getting wasted

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:25 PM MST reply actions  

You probably love Ryan Wilson now :) Nice hit on Moreau.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:26 PM MST reply actions  

That was a dirty fucking hit.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:27 PM MST up reply actions  

So is that a “yes I love him” or a “no he’s dirty”?

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Coverage

The coverage on goal 4 was atrocious.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:27 PM MST reply actions  

4 goals on 9 shots!!!!

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess they pulled Daylaray and put in Deslauriers for the 5v3 kill.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

haha…the latter is definitely better than the former

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Now he’s Adam Day LA Ray

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:31 PM MST reply actions  

Can they quadruple shift the 1st line?

Or clone them?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:32 PM MST reply actions  

They could do that.

Could we clone Smid? Nice work on the 5 on 3. He and Horc.

JDD looked shit on both goals in the 2nd, imo. Ferraro trying to blame Hemsky for that Jones goal, it was a frigging drifter. Jesus.

by Pat Mc on Nov 18, 2009 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah. JDD has not had a good game. In fact, before the 5v3, it would be charitable to call it a bad game.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:36 PM MST up reply actions  

You mean De La Ray?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually love when Smid gets pissy. He’s outstanding.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:37 PM MST up reply actions  

most improved oiler of this season

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s outstanding in two situations:

1. After the whistle in a bad mood.
2. With Lubo.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Great play by siuray

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:34 PM MST reply actions  

Souray’s Fwd PK was hilarious there. Trying to stay in position… staying in position… screw it I’ll punch the guy and take the puck.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:35 PM MST up reply actions  

You could see him make the decision too. That was the best part.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Visnovsky

Has a great slapper!!!

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:34 PM MST reply actions  

We should feed off this great 5 mins of PK

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:36 PM MST reply actions  

Put
Penner – Penner – Penner
Penner – Souray out there and see what happens

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

oooooooooooooooooooooh

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:39 PM MST reply actions  

The Big Lubowski gets good rebounds on his slappers.

Has Moreau been back since that hit?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:41 PM MST reply actions  

i dont think he is back yet

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope. The TSN guys said he went down the tunnel and hasn’t been back. Maybe Wilson broke his jaw? Then you won’t be able to complain about his play OR his way of speaking to the media. The headline on the PGT should be “Ryan Wilson fulfills Derek’s Dreams”

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s just going to re-prompt my rant. That was a dirty fucking hit.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Hahaha…no more bitching about the captain

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Cogliano! Well… he was on the ice.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:42 PM MST reply actions  

And at this point, that’s all we can hope for.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

lol…..brule gagner and cogliano eh

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

And after Scott makes a snarky remark about Smid he comes through the beautiful assist. ;)

You know what I wish? That I had a sandwich. And that Sam Gagner maybe didn’t celebrate every goal like its a game winner in the Stanley Cup.

by Pat Mc on Nov 18, 2009 8:46 PM MST reply actions  

Oh, oh, oh. Lubo was on the ice. It meets the criteria.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm pissed

Colorado with the head shot, we lose two players and they get a powerplay.

The instigator is the worst rule in hockey on those all-too-frequent occasions where the zebras totally miss the dirty hit that caused the response. Buddy left his feet and brought his elbow up. Pretty blatant. Stortini did the right thing there in my view, and pays for it for 17 minutes. FFS

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 8:48 PM MST reply actions  

Bruce… just because you don’t like the instigator rule it doesn’t mean it isn’t a rule. Zack earned all 17 of those PIMs.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Scott: It was a head shot. There’s a rule against blows to the head too. Except one rule was enforced, and one wasn’t. So I’m pissed. Explain to me why I shouldn’t be. I actually have a rooting interest in this game and my team just got hosed as well as concussed.

You gotta protect your teammates. I don’t mind the instigator in that case, but I fucking hate that there is no penalty for the blatant head shot that actually instigated the problem. Buddy jumped six inches off the ice and nailed Moreau right on the jaw. You don’t respond to that shit and you get pushed around. Zorg responded. The zebras are supposed to respond too, but had their heads up their holes.

How about 5, 5 and a game to buddy, and 2 5, and 10 for Stortini. I can handle that. It’s not their guy with the head injury.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Firstly, I don’t think there is a specific rule against hits to the head, although it could come under the intent to injure stuff.

I could see Wilson getting five and a game but at the same time it wasn’t the most blatant of elbows and Moreau was caught staring at the puck through the neutral zone. Should have been a penalty for sure but given how many penalties the refs have called this game they probably just missed the elbow. I didn’t notice the jump to be honest with you but I’ll pay attention to it when I see a replay.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 8:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and Ethan Moreau is not on the bench.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Doesn’t hatter – that was a shoulder aimed straight at the head – it was dirty.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions  

“Dirty” is quite different from “Missed call.” If it’s a shoulder to the head, well it’s not really a missed call. I did think his elbow came up but yeah, either way it was a dirty hit.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Both his feet were off the ice before he made contact. To me it’s a five-minute penalty.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 9:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, like I said, I didn’t see that, so I’ll look for it the next time I see the hit.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Didn’t see it either, my focus was on the fact that he was aiming for the head. It was obvious as he approached.

And I’m glad Stortini beat his ass.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

the thing is that instigator is not used consistenlty……some games it is used and then others it isnt

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 8:51 PM MST up reply actions  

So, I see that Jeff “Dominik Hasek is a Poor Man’s Him” Deslauriers has generously spotted the Avalanche a fourspot tonight. That’s a nice show of confidence in his forwards there. Let’s hope they repay his trust.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 8:55 PM MST reply actions  

Now it’s up to the team to respond and bury these mofos in the third. A little passion would go a very long way right about now.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 8:55 PM MST reply actions  

Don’t worry. If there’s one thing thecaptainethanmoreau can provide, it’s passion! In fact…

(scrolls up in thread)

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 8:55 PM MST up reply actions  

10 forwards

He has to move Strudwick up now, right?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:00 PM MST reply actions  

Imagine how much ice time Ryan O’Marra is going to get Saturday!

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Is it too early to pencil in O’Marpensky as our first line?

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

not a smart play by souray

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 9:02 PM MST reply actions  

He’s been quite good in his time since the call up. It’s not like he’s getting touch matchups, but he’s been good in the role.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Duchene

Hehehehe – Souray just collared Duchene.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:05 PM MST reply actions  

he was left alonse to skate in

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm Dustin Penner

And you need two guys to move me from the net.

Go for it.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:05 PM MST reply actions  

however i sometimes try to stickhandle through 3 guys…probably i shudnt

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, I officially have an Oilers boner again. I hadn’t had one in so long I thought I was going to have to see my doctor.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:07 PM MST reply actions  

Now, does that mean you have a Tattoo that you’d like to tell us about?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

If I could describe Penner’s attitude on his last shift, it would be “boredly dominant”.

“I’m going to destroy you eventually. No rush.”

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:13 PM MST reply actions  

It’s been his attitude all night

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

PATTY O’LANTERNS!

SNIPE!

$$$!

WORTH EVERY PENNY!

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:14 PM MST reply actions  

That celebration had a bit of “Finally!” in it. That was a nice forecheck shift by the whole line.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I noticed the same thing. There was relief and joy in that one.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Liam Reddox really is the poor man’s Fernando Pisani. I believe.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:16 PM MST reply actions  

Not yet, gun jumper, not yet.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Belief is not about reason. Belief is about belief.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Not yet not yet but he certainly adds something to this club. Even if he never rises above fourth line guy.

Case in point, a nice block.

by Pat Mc on Nov 18, 2009 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

You bet. I think he might be in the NHL to stay now.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Meh, we all know he’s just a MacT creation.

Agreed Scott, I think he adds a lot of what this club needs. Bye bye Robert. And others.

by Pat Mc on Nov 18, 2009 9:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t understand why Moreau can’t be this guy at this point.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Seeing the replay of the Wilson hit for the first time, Moreau looked… well, fine.

You don’t think that Quinn was looking for an excuse to have the Load hit the showers early?

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Also: too early to change Ethan Moreau’s nickname to “The Load”? How much better has this team played without him? A million percent?

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 18, 2009 9:17 PM MST reply actions  

Tom Gilbert with under 2:00 since the second Avs goal in the first period (though he was on for the tying goal in the third). Is he injured or benched do you figure? Benched would seem to make sense except that he got those three shifts but didn’t stay in the rotation.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions  

I can’t see Quinn being happy about him not breaking the cycle on the second goal.

He’s been on the power play, but I can’t remember him being out at evens.

I’ve seen Arsene a few times since then though.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep. And how bad are you when you’re benched in favour of both Arsene and Jason Strudwick.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

…Cogliano and Moreau bad?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I would say benched. Quinn talked about him extensively in his pregame presser, said he has played much better lately. But he might have leaned on Hejduk on the first goal too.

JDD’s saves might have be a little less big if he had stopped those two in the 2nd.

by Pat Mc on Nov 18, 2009 9:25 PM MST reply actions  

he shud have been better

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Quinn might gush about Reddox in the post-game presser.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:29 PM MST up reply actions  

The goalie

Is no longer De LA ray. What happened?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:29 PM MST reply actions  

yeah

This was a character test IMO. Bad stuff happening, bad goaltending, a dirty hit, a couple guys down … the team needed to respond emotionally, and they did.

Not JDD’s best game, but he he really bounced back when it was 4-2 and slammed the door from that 5-on-3 right through the end.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 18, 2009 9:33 PM MST up reply actions  

First Line

The first line was just amazing tonight.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:34 PM MST reply actions  

so was the brule and reddox line

by SumOil on Nov 18, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Considering they played the last half of the game with nine forwards, they needed to be.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 18, 2009 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

They’ve been pretty good lately, but tonight, I can’t remember a bad play from the entire line. Some pucks rolled off of sticks and such, but the line was on point the entire game.

That may have been Penner’s best all-zone game of the year, by the way.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Budaj

What sort of goalie gives up a goal to Lanterns?

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by Derek Zona on Nov 18, 2009 9:49 PM MST reply actions  

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