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Edmonton - Columbus post-game: almost

More good news, bad news in this one, but at least the Oilers 10th loss in the last 12 came with a one-point bonus. Like yesterday the Oil had a 2-1 lead but could neither hold it nor muster another goal.

All the scoring was done on the powerplay in this one, with point men Sheldon Souray, Lubomir Visnovsky, Anton Stralman and Fedor Tyutin contributing two points apiece. The Oilers high-priced veteran blueliners were money tonight, as were fellow blueliners Tom Gilbert and Ladislav Smid. Souray in particular had a monster night, playing a game-high 26:56, contributing significantly to both special teams, and being hard-matched against Rick Nash who (somehow) was held off the scoresheet. After a six-week absence, Souray's calmness on the ice has been a sight for sore eyes; the game seems a lot more under control when he's out there.

The Blue Jackets iced a rugged line-up that included Tom "Don't Call Me Tim" Sestito, Jared Boll, and Michael Blunden. Oilers answered the bell early when Zack Stortini squared off with Blunden, followed seconds later by a tilt between Jason Strudwick and Sestito. Both Oilers  more than held their own, as did their teammates in the fairly physical affair that followed. FWIW, Oilers outhit the Jackets 26-22 led by Smid's 5 hits and Souray's 4, which included a great open-ice hit on Blunden (pictured).

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Up front the trio of Shawn Horcoff (26:56), Dustin Penner (23:47) and Ales Hemsky (23:00) were leaned on more heavily than ever in the absence of Sam Gagner, and they had some real jump, especially on the two successful powerplays and then in overtime.

On the negative side of the equation Ethan Moreau took yet another bad penalty deep in the offensive zone, this one on the penalty kill which put the Oilers two men short. As was the case yesterday, the opponents capitalized on thecaptain's mistake with a powerplay goal. In a close game, such blunders often translate directly to lost standings points, and a case can be made that this has happened twice in the last 36 hours.

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Are the Sestitos the lamest set of brothers in NHL history? It’s like if the Oilers signed Dean Arsene’s brother Claude out of an autobody shop on the Whitemud.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 16, 2009 9:54 PM MST reply actions  

I can’t believe that management hasn’t made a move yet. I love that the entire franchise, not just Kevin Lowe, thinks that the first 30 games are a testing ground.

And for everyone said that I was crazy when I said Moreau should be stripped of the ‘C’, well, I’m glad that he’s doing great things in the community and he’s not embarrassed. He should be embarrassed by his play, but he’s not.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Nov 16, 2009 9:56 PM MST reply actions  

I still don’t think there is any point to stripping Moreau of the captaincy unless he’s terrible in the room. What is it supposed to accomplish? Make a guy they’re probably trying to trade look even shittier? Publicly embarrass a person who’s spent over ten years with your organization? Create a new fun distraction for every player on the team to talk about? Look at all these great reasons to choose from!

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 17, 2009 4:06 AM MST up reply actions  

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or serious. And if you’re serious, I’m very sad. Mostly sad for you.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Nov 17, 2009 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

The first sentence is serious. I don’t think there’s any point to stripping him of the captaincy. Then I descend into the nefarious depths of sarcasm where that point probably gets completely lost. At any rate, no need to be sad for me. Ethan Moreau may not be a very good hockey player but as far as his other captainly duties are concerned he’s doing just fine (and it’s more than community service). How does stripping him of the captaincy mid-season help things in any way, especially of they’re trying to move him?

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 17, 2009 9:25 AM MST up reply actions  

He’s immovable.

Give the C to someone that can play the game and play intelligently.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

You don’t take the C off his chest, you take the Oil drop off of it. A change of captaincy will happen when Ethan moves on. While he’s here it’s not worth the distraction, and frankly I don’t feel the man deserves it. He may not be brightest crayon in the box, but he’s no Shame Corson either.

I do think he’s a tradeable commodity though. Presumably Eastern Conference, some place where they don’t see him play that often. :) He’s a big, hard-skating veteran with a physical edge. He’s got experience galore, having played in Game Seven of the SCF for goodness sake. He’s a renowned fitness freak. He’s a team captain. He won the King Freakin’ Clancy Memorial Trophy. What’s not to like?

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 17, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

I doubt very much that he’s immovable. If Calgary can move Jim Vandermeer surely we too can move middle-salaried junk, especially if we’re willing to take on salary for this year and throw in a middling pick. I could see Carolina shipping us, say, Scott Walker for Ethan Moreau and a 4th (or 3rd or 5th) just to save the $500,000 this year.

I agree with Bruce here that stripping the captain of the “C” is likely to be a distraction. What do you think it will positively accomplish? I actually can’t think of anything that it could actually do to help the team but I can think of a lot of ways it could hurt the team. If they were going to do it, it needed to be done when Quinn first arrived (which would have probably been a good idea), not twenty games into the season.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 17, 2009 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey, where’s Benjamin Massey’s posts been lately? During hard Oil times like this, nothing beats Massey’s sardonic sense of humor. Good thoughts overall especially with Souray back.

Massey: get back to work and write some articles!

by Hockey Noob on Nov 16, 2009 10:56 PM MST reply actions  

I’ve been on the job the last two games. Look for my unique brand of angst in some future edition of the Copper & Blue, coming sometime in the future!

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 16, 2009 11:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, how are we supposed to have a true bottom three starts ranking at the end of the season is Ben isn’t watching?

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Nov 17, 2009 7:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Just finished watching the game tonight and it was a pretty fun one to watch. Souray shaking his head at Stortini fighting was interesting. Debrusk interpreted it as Souray thinking the Columbus player was in over his head but I’m not so sure it wasn’t directed at Zorg. I didn’t much understand it to be honest.

Visnovsky made some great defensive plays this evening. It’s amazing how much better Smid looks playing with 71 than he does playing with anyone else. I’m convinced that the Oilers could run Visnovsky as a pump-and-dump factory for middling prospects over the next few years. Now, Smid might be better than that but the Oilers decide that, say, Cody Wild isn’t their cup of tea and they’re out of the playoff chase with a couple of months to go, call the kid up, play him with Visnovsky for two months and see what you can get for him at the draft.

I liked the line of Reddox-Brule-Potulny more than I was expecting, especially Reddox (too bad about that penalty in the third period). I did notice one shift where Arsene was out with them and it was two players away from a true Falcons unit. Scary stuff. Or at least, it would seem like it should be but they ended up doing just fine. The one thing that was really annoying was Brule’s shootout attempt. “Deke along the ice” against Mathieu Garon is a dumb choice. I was surprised it came as close as it did to going in the net.

Another guy that sucks at shootouts: Dustin Penner. I remember all of his shootout attempts being both unsuccessful and brutal. But he probably deserves a pass on too much criticism there (Quinn’s choice I’d assume) given his play in every aspect of the game before the skills contest.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 17, 2009 4:18 AM MST reply actions  

Just finished watching the game tonight and it was a pretty fun one to watch. Souray shaking his head at Stortini fighting was interesting. Debrusk interpreted it as Souray thinking the Columbus player was in over his head but I’m not so sure it wasn’t directed at Zorg. I didn’t much understand it to be honest.

I said in the GDT that he shouldn’t have fought because they were already down to 11 forwards – Stortini picking a fight meant they only had 10 for five minutes. I wonder if Souray felt the same way.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Nov 17, 2009 7:55 AM MST up reply actions  

It reminds me of this video of Rob Ray. I wish we could just ask them what they were thinking!

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 17, 2009 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Souray was shaking his head at...

Jared Boll, who Zorg switched sides with thecapitanethanmoreau before the draw to lineup beside. Presumably, Boll (known agitator) was doing/saying something and Zorg switched sides to line up beside him and fight him. As the puck drops, Zorg is looking at and skating after Boll, but Boll skates away. Blunden then steps in for Boll, and Zorg turns his attention to him.

When you watch Souray in the clip, he is looking at Boll and shaking his head, presumably saying something like “you’ve got a big mouth, but you don’t step up and back it up. For shame”. or somesuch.

by Kish on Nov 17, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

@ the 15 second mark, watch souray

by Kish on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I liked the line of Reddox-Brule-Potulny more than I was expecting, especially Reddox

Yeah, agreed. They are so much better than the fourth line at this point.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Nov 17, 2009 7:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Let’s hope they can continue to finish evens or better in serious injury plus/minus.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 17, 2009 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Reddox made one of the plays of the game last night. A real nice burst of speed from his own blueline, wound up breaking in alone and forcing a real good stop from Garon. He had a similar play in Denver, started with a turnover and Reddox turned it around real quick that time too and forced a fine stop from Anderson. I think there’s more than “just” a checker here, not a huge scorer likely but perhaps one with Pisani-type production. We need some of that in the bottom 6.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 17, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I said in the GDT that he shouldn’t have fought because they were already down to 11 forwards – Stortini picking a fight meant they only had 10 for five minutes.

I was going to comment on this in the GDT but it was already the second period by the time I read it. But since you make the point again here, let’s talk about it.

It’s very rare that I am in total disagreement with Derek, but this is one such instance. I agree with the concept if you’re down to 5 defencemen, but c’mon man, even with Stortini and Strudwick (a swing man who lined up at forward right after the first fight and immediately got into another) both in the box, 10 forwards is more than enough to handle five minutes. Even if there are no odd-man situations during that interval, it’s one rotation of 1-2-3-1-2-3-4. If Zorg is still in the box at the end of that time, you doubleshift Hemsky in his spot — something that people were screaming for Craig MacTavish to do last year. It’s no big deal. You have to similar after every fight. There’s more than enough teammates to pick up the guy’s icetime.

While I’m all in favour of Zack playing 82 games, I don’t mind if he misses the odd shift cuz he’s in the box. That’s a huge part of his job. As mentioned in the post-game article up top, last night I thought those two scraps set the tone early, that the Oilers had shown up ready to answer the bell. Hitchcock had dressed a few rowdies, but Stortini took care of Blunden, Strudwick looked after Sestito, and Boll took himself out, with a verbal assist from Souray. I was shocked that Boll wasn’t willing to go, he always struck me as a Stortini-type who would never refuse a challenge, but he let Michael Blunden fight his battle for him last night. And lose it.

When you watch Souray in the clip, he is looking at Boll and shaking his head, presumably saying something like "you’ve got a big mouth, but you don’t step up and back it up. For shame". or somesuch.

“For shame” or some alternate two syllable expression starting with F. I would bet my bottom dollar it was Boll that Souray was talking to. Shaking his head, saying “You don’t want to go with him, and you sure don’t want to go with me.” No way does Sheldon mind Stortini getting into one there, I just don’t see it. But he’s sure going to notice Boll.

Judging from the 2:45 Boll played last night — less than half of what he’s been getting — I would suggest that Ken Hitchcock was none too impressed either.

Writer for The Copper & Blue and primary shareholder of Zorg Industries

by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 AM MST reply actions  

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