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Columbus Blue Jackets Injuries

Questionable

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Samuel Pahlsson elbow 11/14/2009
Derek Dorsett hand 11/14/2009
Mike Commodore other-excused 11/14/2009

Out (IR / Out / Suspended / Physically unvailable)

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Raffi Torres jaw 11/11/2009
Andrew Murray shoulder 10/20/2009
Fredrik Modin knee 09/29/2009



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Letting which of these gentlemen walk was the bigger mistake?
Curtis Glencross
63 votes
Jan Hejda
26 votes
Scott Howson
39 votes

128 votes | Poll has closed

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Scott Howson, the well-qualified, young, and handsome general manager who understands the value of a salary cap dollar and has an eye for affortable talent that may have slipped under the radar of the other twenty-nine teams. Somebody who didn’t stick with an organization too long and showed both drive and ability to get both himself and his teams into the most successful position possible.

Or, in summary, Bizarro Steve Tambellini.

by Benjamin Massey on Nov 16, 2009 10:20 AM MST reply actions  

The Glencross vs. Hejda vote is disturbing.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 16, 2009 10:55 AM MST reply actions  

I voted for Glencross

… simply on the basis that the hole he left on LW still hasn’t been filled. Oilers have had some pretty good defencemen come in since they pulled the plug on Hejda. Of course it was a mistake, I really liked what I saw of Hejda as an Oiler, and in retrospect he would be a better, cheaper option than Staios or even Gilbert or Grebs for that matter. But our top 6 as currently constructed is pretty solid … or would be, if they were ever all healthy. Seems to me Hejda has himself had some health issues though. Unfortunately, he suffered a major injury (dislocated shoulder?) in his one year here, and was one of the many blueliners in the pressbox as the Oilers came apart down the stretch in ’06-07. It was a double blow: Oilers missed him on the ice, and Hejda lost an opportunity to prove himself as a keeper. He was really coming on, making a real solid pair with Gator, and was starting to look like part of the solution before he became part of the problem.

GlenX on the other hand was nothing but healthy while he was here and played a major role as the Oilers went on that terrific stretch drive in ‘07-08. Oilers fourth line went from meh or worse to a real force, frequently dominating their counterparts both physically and in terms of puck possession/zone time. He was a natural LW of which we’ve had far too few around here: Penner and Moreau remain, but Cole, Pisani and pretty much all the smurfs prefer the right side (or the middle). In the time since GlenX left we’ve seen the likes of Pouliot, Strudwick, Smid, Peckham and MacIntyre* playing out of position on 4LW, as that gap has never been properly filled. Our fourth line has gone from a strength back to meh, while our third and second lines continue to beg for a solid LW.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we’ve had this discussion before but the Glencross miss seems entirely excusable to me. I can see why a team would shy away from a guy that hadn’t cracked 1 PPG in the AHL and had very limited NHL experience. It’s a risky bet to make on a three-year deal at over 1M, though as things have turned out it was a good gamble. But he really could have been Scott Fraser in New York. The contract Hejda signed, on the other hand, had very little risk. I actually don’t understand why you wouldn’t give him a 1 year 1M deal based on his performance the year before. They’ve filled the Hejda hole better than the Glencross hole but in terms of which one was the bigger mistake in judgment I think it needs to be Hejda hands down.

But I voted for Howson. Godot’s point below about it being the classy thing to do is true. It’s just frustrating to see Howson walk and then Lowe get replaced in Edmonton the following season with, IMO, an inferior manager.

by Scott Reynolds on Nov 16, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I hate being that guy, but, yes, everything that Scott just said.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 16, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Allowing Howson to take a promotion in Columbus to GM demonstrates class from the Oilers. It is how an organization should be run.

And remember, Howson was around when they were giving those “bad” contracts to Staios, Moreau, and Pisani.

by godot10 on Nov 16, 2009 12:32 PM MST reply actions  

Where’s “all of the above?”

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by Doogie2K on Nov 16, 2009 5:58 PM MST reply actions  

That’s way too easy. Life is about hard choices, doog.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 16, 2009 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, and immediately after saying that, I voted Hejda. I saw him good that September, and MacTavish still wouldn’t play him until it was down to Hejda, Gator, and Sebastien Bisaillon.

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by Doogie2K on Nov 16, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I really am shocked by this bizarre Glencross thing.

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by Derek Zona on Nov 16, 2009 9:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I get the frustration, especially since he’s close by and we get to hear about him a lot more. But of the three, letting him go was the easiest to defend: Mario-esque shooting percentages don’t hold unless a player is, well, Mario-esque. Hejda was a good defenceman who wasn’t played at a time we needed him, and wasn’t resigned at a time when he was nobody and worth next to nothing. Howson has taken Doug McLean’s mess and created an honest-to-God playoff team; imagine what he’d have done with Kevin Lowe’s mess.

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by Doogie2K on Nov 17, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

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