Rob Daum On Cody Wild
In what can only be described as a direct response to this entry on Cody Wild, Guy Flaming and Dean Millard of The Pipeline Show asked Springfield Falcons coach Rob Daum about the comparison between Taylor Chorney and Cody Wild. In this case, the question was posed that they were so similar statistically, not that Cody Wild had an edge, as has been the case. I'm glad that the guys at TPS asked the question and I'm not surprised that Daum was so honest and forthcoming in his answer and his take on Wild.
Daum did a little bit of hand-waving on the statistical comparison and moved onto Wild's game:
I think the thing with Cody is that, and when you compare him to Taylor, Taylor is a much better skater than Cody is. I think they have the same defensive deficiencies from a positional standpoint and the ability to defend. I think Taylor has made strides in those areas that Cody hasn't quite been able to master at this point.
Like every young defender, Wild needs to improve positionally.
Daum continued:
And consistency in his play. Cody has the ability to make a brilliant play and then in the next shift defines [sic] any type of hockey logic. That inconsistency is really a detriment to Cody's game right now. The other thing I would say is that he has to play with a little more of an edge to his game.
The comparison is odd. I don't think it's possible to play with less of an edge than Taylor Chorney, but the coach seems to say that there is separation between the two in that area. The coach says he has to be consistent and play with an edge. He's a good coach, so we can take him at his word. Wild needs to improve in these areas. My learned colleague Jonathan Willis points out that Daum only coached twenty-nine games last season, and in those twenty-nine games, Chorney's numbers showed improvement while Wild's numbers slipped. The coach himself may be limited by sample size.
So Wild needs to improve his skating, improve his positioning, play consistently and play with an edge. So how does he explain Chorney's half-again worse performance against the same competition compared to Wild?
Was last season bad luck for Chorney and good luck for Wild? And in the small sample that we've seen this year -- that same bad luck is at work?
Thanks to Jennifer Bock for the photo of the Falcons in action.
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Sample size
Is a valid concern, but that’s not th only thing I was thinking about.
We tend to treat seasons as discrete blocks, and I’m not sure that’s wise. It could be just fluctuation, but I wonder if Chorney didn’t improve rapidly over the course of the season? If he did, it could very well be that by the end of 08-09 he was head and shoulders above Wild.
Again, we don’t know. Hypothetically, it could be too that Chorney had miserable EV SV%, and we wouldn’t know.
It’s unfortunate, but there’s a lot of grey area.
by Jonathan Willis on Nov 13, 2009 7:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I know that Lowetide did a “Daum’s Falcons” post that listed how all of the players performed under Rob Daum. It’s a handy thing to have. Here’s Chorney and Wild at EV:
Chorney 22GP: 1-2-3, -9
Wild 28GP: 1-3-4, -13
At least in that sample – assuming they’re being used in roughly equal situations – there’s no advantage for Wild at all. They look pretty much like equals. If Chorney comes off better visually (with things like skating, positional play, intensity) I have no problem believing that Chorney would seem the better player.
by Scott Reynolds on Nov 13, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting link. Thanks.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 13, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s unfortunate, but there’s a lot of grey area.
Thank goodness. I wouldn’t have anything to write about if there was no grey area.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 13, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KP Says
Last spring, probably on that same show, KP said that Chorney has way more hockey sense than Wild.
So, they seem to be agrreein’
by Mr DeBakey on Nov 13, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Then it makes sense. I’d really like to get an interview with Wild to discuss it.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 13, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Four bucks for popcorn? Fuck you, Albany River Rats!
Wait, am I drawing the wrong lessons here?
by Benjamin Massey on Nov 13, 2009 9:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I noted that too. The beer is outrageous for a minor league hockey game.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 13, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are some impressive powers of observation right there, took me 5 minutes of searching just to figure out what in the world you were talking about.
by Simon M on Nov 13, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Click on the picture for full-size. It’s much easier to spot.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 14, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t the dark jerseys suggest this game was @ Springfield? Whatever, two American teams and the feature beer is Molson Canadian.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 14, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cottonhill.com guides you to a recording studio in Albany.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 14, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice one, Sherlock.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 14, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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