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Oilers v. Stars - Isaiah 14:3-11

Dallas Stars at Edmonton Oilers, Oct 6, 2009 7:30 PM MDT


When Yahweh gives us victory over our ancient foe - a rest from the anguish of our opening night loss and a reprieve from the agony of our three-year drought - we will sing this song of mockery against those who once stood tall:

Our oppressor has fallen!
Those who abused us have been cut down to the ground!
Yahweh has cursed their goaltending
And sent plagues on their heroes of old.
They rejoiced in rulebreaking

with huge hands wielding sticks like instruments of war.

They delighted in destruction,

with insincere hands the only consolation for their victims.

But now the whole Conference has a night off when they play you;

they rejoice when they see your name on the schedule!

The Bluejackets dance on your remains,

yes, even the Predators look at you and laugh, saying

"Though we too have been brought low,

even we can claim victory tonight!"

Sheol beneath is stirred up,

smiling upon your arrival.

It sends the Coyotes and Kings to welcome you

who once stood tall in their division.

Those who sat high atop the Conference

are now brought down among those they abused.

All of them will say to you:

"You have become as weak as we are!

You have become like us!" 

Your nepotism has brought you down to Sheol,

where your songs of victory will not be heard.

Your body has been torn apart

and the part that remains you have stripped and disgraced.

 

 

 

Dallas Stars (0-0-1) @ Edmonton Oilers (0-1-0)

Rexall Place, 7:30 PM MDT
Television: PPV


More Analysis After The Jump...

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report:

The old grey mare just ain't what she used to be.  To illustrate here's a quote from Brandon Worley at Defending Big D: "the Stars have some serious depth at forward with the addition of Jamie Benn and Tom Wandell.  The defense has been shored up (somewhat) with free agents Karlis Skrastins and Jeff Woywitka."  Yeah...  They also fired Les Jackson (experienced management type) and hired Joe Nieuwendyk (former player with little management experience).  As an Oiler fan, I know a little something about glory-days nepotism but I'll give the short version here: it's not usually successful (I'm being kind).  To wit: one of Nieuwendyk's first actions as general manager was to fire Dave Tippett (good coach, good person) and hire Marc Crawford (? coach, annoying voice).  Further, and this is the real killer, your team is only projected to spend 48M dollars against the cap this year including 7.8M to Brad Richards for winning a Conn Smythe trophy for another team and 1.9M for Sean Avery to actually play for another team.  There's also Marty Turco making 5.7M and Mike Ribeiro making 5.0M (he signed that contract the year after shooting 25%).  Of the sixteen teams that made the playoffs last year, only one spent less than 50M and only two less than 53M in cap space.  The fact that the Stars have four contracts that are quite likely to be poor value (and in the case of Avery it's a 100% guarantee) and are only projected to spend 48M likely means they're going to be a bad team.  I have them finishing 12th in the West.  I know Stars fans aren't used to having a bad team so Brandon's optimism above is understandable but, hey, as an Oiler fan, I've got plenty of pessimism to go around.  

Mr. Worley files the following: "The Dallas Stars entered the season with a bit of uncertainty as they seemingly struggled to get comfortable in Marc Crawford's new offensive system. Despite a shaky first period start and a disappointing shootout loss against Nashville, fans are feeling much more confident in their team after one game. Unrelenting pressure and a daunting forecheck had the Predators on their heels in the latter half of the game and only an incredible performance by Dan Ellis in net kept the Stars from securing a victorious comeback. Mike Modano (Ribs) and Jere Lehtinen (groin) are both out for the game against the Oilers, but the Stars have several young forwards in Jamie Benn and Tom Wandell ready and able to step up and produce."

 

 

Expected Starting Lineups:

Dallas Stars (0-0-1):

Neal - Richards - Eriksson
Morrow - Ribeiro - Benn
Ott - Wandell - Brunnstrom
Barch - Sutherby - Petersen

Grossman - Robidas
Skrastins - Daley
Woywitka - Niskanen

Turco

 

Edmonton Oilers (0-1-0):

Jacques - Horcoff - Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Comrie - Stone
Penner - Brule -
Nilsson
Cogliano - Gagner - Stortini

Souray -
Staios
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Smid -
Visnovsky

Khabibulin

 

 

Behind The Numbers:

Tonight's game features Marty Turco and Nikolai Khabibulin, ranked 31st and 32nd by save percentage among regular NHL goalies since the lockout.  Khabibulin is looking for his 300th career win.

Though both are expansion teams, the Oilers and Stars have met in the playoffs eight times, tied for the most playoff matchups not involving an original six team.  Last year marked only the second time since 1995-1996 that neither team made the post-season, lending a bit of insight to how far these teams have fallen.

Edmonton managed to kill only one of three short-handed opportunites and will be missing Ethan Moreau on the penalty kill unit.  Look for Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano or Ryan Stone in his place.

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Yeah, I remember that other year both squads missed the postseason, 2002. After four years in a row of losing out to the Stars in the playoffs, Oilers finished 9th, Stars 10th. The next year both were back in and guess who we wound up playing in the first round again? Still a painful memory.

by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 6, 2009 10:08 AM MDT reply actions  

And sent plagues on their heroes of old.

Their hero of old is still playing.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 11:08 AM MDT reply actions  

I assume you’re referring to Modano and he’s referenced at the very end. The plagues was more a reference to the injuries they’ve sustained to guys like Zubov and Lehtinen the last couple of years. Although with Modano out for this game it seems to unintentionally apply to him now too! Or are you talking about someone else?

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 6, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jacques – Horcoff – Hemsky
O’Sullivan – Comrie – Stone
Penner – Brule – Nilsson
Cogliano – Gagner – Stortini

I get what he’s going for, but jeez, make two good lines and let the rest fend for themselves.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 12:10 PM MDT reply actions  

I’m surprised they’re splitting Penner and Cogliano. Those two showed well together and one of the strengths of that line last game was that they played mostly North-South hockey. Nilsson probably won’t do that. Plus Nilsson and Gagner have done well together at times in the past.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 6, 2009 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I dunno. Penner and Cogliano were all about the Offside Express a couple of times against the Flames. Splitting them up makes sense to me; them “showing well together” was essentially Penner busting through guys and he’d look good with anyone doing that.

by Benjamin Massey on Oct 6, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t something along the lines of:

Jacques – Horcoff – Hemsky
Penner – Brule – O’ Sullivan
Stone – Comrie – Stortini
Cogliano – Gagner – Nilsson

Look a little better. Comrie and Brule are interchangeable, I think.

Wow. Pisani needs to hurry back.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not referring to the season opener so much as preseason where I thought the two of them looked good together. That said, Cogliano was at center on that line. When Pouliot is healthy enough to play I’d like to see Penner-Cogliano-Pouliot with Cogs cheating like crazy on draws since Poo can come in and take them if need be. Brule played pretty well last game, but I’m not convinced that he deserves a regular spot in the lineup.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 6, 2009 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why not just have Pouliot take the draws and move to the wing once the puck has dropped? It’s been done.

by Benjamin Massey on Oct 6, 2009 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or leave Poo down the middle? I like the idea of Cogs with less defensive responsibility as a winger and easier to spring for a lead pass. Plus Pouliot has always looked better to me as a C then anytime as a winger.

by till_horcoff_is_coach on Oct 6, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed. He’s a natural center with defensive instincts. Stop forcing him to the wing. Put the kid with wheels and no defense out there and let him play high all game.

Positionally, I mean.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

One of the advantages to having a speedster like Cogs play high in the defensive zone is if he can ever jump a pass, he’s gone. Poaching’s a teachable skill, and a whole lot less complicated that some of the down-low stuff he has struggled with. Whereas Poo’s got a bit more size, range, and savvy to handle the low-zone assignments, and is more of a breakout, head-man passer who is liable to find a breaking winger once in a while.

Now I’m far from expert but I sure would like to hear what it is that coaches see in Cogs’ game that justifies their keeping him at C. Do they really see a developing Todd Marchant? Or don’t they like his play on the wall or something? Unfortunately we are rarely offered such tidbits in the MSM.

by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 6, 2009 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

One of the advantages to having a speedster like Cogs play high in the defensive zone is if he can ever jump a pass, he’s gone. Poaching’s a teachable skill, and a whole lot less complicated that some of the down-low stuff he has struggled with. Whereas Poo’s got a bit more size, range, and savvy to handle the low-zone assignments, and is more of a breakout, head-man passer who is liable to find a breaking winger once in a while.

Sounds like an article :)

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

In fairness, they are currently playing him on the wing. They played him at center in the preseason with Penner and I liked the way the two played together. But I relent. I would still be quite happy to see a line of Penner-Pouliot-Cogliano get a look. Certainly happier than with Brule taking the C spot.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 6, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ire

I like that your GDT has inspired such ire from the opponent :)

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 3:44 PM MDT reply actions  

At least there is no Modano and no Lehtinen. That probably just means a new Oiler-killer will be spawned tonight.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 7:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Fortunate to get a goal when you look like crap for 4 minutes.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 7:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Sweet, Staios on the power play.

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by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 7:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Strange game, very choppy :( . I think only part of that is the crummy feed.

Oilers’ first line has been by far the worst thru 40 minutes, two goals against, two penalties against, and zero shots for. Hard to imagine how they could be worse, other than even more bad stuff against I guess.

There was one shift where they were out there with Grebs and Gilbert and couldn’t even get over their own goal line.

by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 6, 2009 9:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Jacques is not a top 9 player at this point. Nor is stone.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Penner moves up and Hemsky goes off.

It’s not a damned coincidence.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Khabibulin is not an NHL goaltender at this point.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 6, 2009 9:28 PM MDT reply actions  

will have to agree…..

by SumOil on Oct 6, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY

by SumOil on Oct 6, 2009 10:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Just got back from shooting pool with an unbelievably attractive woman. I found that preferable to watching Nik Khabibulin fart out piles of cash while waving feebly at pucks sliding past him again.

However, I see we won! And Horpensky is back! And fatso keeps bowling over lesser players (i.e. everyone) like they’re made of hay.

So we have one more win than I predicted this year, which is nice.

by Benjamin Massey on Oct 6, 2009 11:01 PM MDT reply actions  

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