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It's almost like bragging.  Wings narrowly avoid their worst start since 1993.  They're 4-4-2!

The world is changing when there are only five Wings above water at evens.

Pavel Datsyuk is dinged up.  That guy is always dinged up.  Doesn't prevent him from playing like nails.  I wonder if he could play through the Oiler flu?

Reaction to the Wings slow start.  This is what happens when you throw Chris Chelios overboard.

The Wings problem?  Goaltending, Defense, Offense, Injuries, Coaching.  This guy could easily write an Oiler blog.

Frolov to the Wings?  Nah, Ville Lean-o is just as good.

 


Detroit Red Wings Injuries

Probable

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Pavel Datsyuk foot 10/28/2009

Out (IR / Out / Suspended / Physically unvailable)

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Johan Franzen knee 10/09/2009
Andreas Lilja concussion 09/14/2009
Cory Emmerton other-excused 09/28/2009


Poll
So what is Detroit's problem?
Goaltending
35 votes
Defense
6 votes
Offense
2 votes
Injuries
2 votes
Coaching
1 votes
Sample Size
10 votes

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Aaaah I like your last choice sample size. However after all is said and done and the sample size increases, the problem will remain the goaltending. Osgood is too old now

by SumOil on Oct 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

g) Stanley Cup hangover

These guys have played into June two years running, and made the conference finals the year before that. Long playoff runs, short off-seasons. That’s tough enough when you do it once in a row. I fully expected them to have a tough start to the season, and it may take them a while to pull out of it.

by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 29, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As with the Islanders, they may never pull out of it…

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Oct 29, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention ...

… with the loss of Hossa, Hudler, Samuelsson to free agency and the long term injury to Franzen the Wings are down 116 goals from ’08-09. Replacement guys will be doing well to recover half of those goals.

Also, the following six-pack of key veterans are all 36 and above:

Osgood
Lidstrom – Rafalski
Holmstrom – Draper – Maltby

Clock’s tickin’ and calendar’s turnin’ …

by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 29, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given that Draper has been a healthy scratch already this year, I’m not sure he and Maltby are exactly “key.”

At least in my viewings against the Avalanche the Wings have looked great except for the guy manning the pipes. I think Chicago wins that division this year but the Wings are far from done.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 29, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's kind of the point

Those guys are getting older, so their play and/or their role must diminish. Let’s rephrase: “Key veterans from the dynasty years”. Draper and Maltby have been key figures for the Wings for years — checkers, penalty killers, irritants, proven winners — and I have yet to be convinced that the likes of Patrick Eaves and Darren Helm will prove to be adequate replacements even down the road, let alone right now. One way or the other, the Wings “third” line is gradually weakening. So is their first pairing on the blue, which ultimately will prove even more critical; my point was their whole line-up is rife with guys with a lot of wear on their tires.

by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 29, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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