Oilers v. Flames - Obadiah 1-6
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 2:00 PM MDT
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PrintEdmonton Oilers at Calgary Flames, Oct 24, 2009 8:00 PM MDT
The vision given to Peckham on the day of his arrival:
We heard a message from Yahweh in Springfield and I am the messenger who has been sent to confirm these words: "Rise up! Yahweh is with us for they have been ordained for complete eradication!" This is what Yahweh, the great and glorious ruler of all things, says about Calgary:
"I will make you least in your division so that even your own people will despise you. Your proud heart has deceived you! Your 'classy' leader is amoral: the fruits of his leadership evident in the men he leads. You say in your heart, 'We are beyond punishment or retribution.' You are nothing but fools. Though you soar near the top of the conference like an eagle in the air, though you build a nest in playoff position, it is from there that I will bring you down!" says Yahweh.
"When my Oilers come to you, when my chosen and favoured team comes by night - O how you deserve your destruction - they will take what they want from you. The points will be theirs. And when my messenger arrives, the man who was sent from Springfield , he will dole out vengeance."
"How beautiful is the annihilation of Calgary, its 'achievements' presented for mockery and its 'leaders' for derision.
Edmonton Oilers (6-2-1) @ Calgary Flames (6-2-1)
Pengrowth Saddledome, 8:00 PM MDT
Television: CBC
More analysis after the jump...
Visiting Team Scouting Report: In a lot of ways the Oilers and Flames have been running parallel seasons. Just like the Oilers, the Flames sit at 6-2-1 through nine games and just like the Oilers, the Flames have made that record on percentages rather than shot volume. There aren't many teams the Oilers can look at and say, "Our shot differential gives an advantage in this one." But here we are. The Flames have been outshot (on average) 32.8 to 23.6. Now, the Flames did begin to turn things around in this area against Columbus (both in terms of shots on goal and in terms of Corsi) but one game does not make a trend and with David Moss out of the lineup tonight Calgary's task doesn't get any easier. Iginla started putting up some offence against the Blue Jackets but he's still not quite in form. Going by Kent's scoring chance report, it looks like it was mostly Dawes, Bourque and Langkow taking on the big line. It's still unbelievable to me that Sutter was able to get Dawes off of waivers this summer for free. How many players is he an upgrade on that are wearing an Oildrop tonight? I definitely feel safe in saying that it's more than one. At any rate, maybe tonight is the night both teams regress on their shooting percentage and the Oilers win 2 to 1 while outshooting the Flames 34-17 at the Saddledome. It would be beautiful.
Expected Lineups:
Edmonton Oilers (6-2-1):
Penner - Gagner - Hemsky
Moreau - Horcoff - O'Sullivan
Jacques - Cogliano - Nilsson
Studwick - Stortini - MacIntyre
Visnovsky - Smid
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Peckham - Chorney
Khabibulin
Calgary Flames (6-2-1):
Waivers - Langkow - Bourque
Traitor - Big Mouth - Jarmoe
Sjostrom - "Lombo makes 1.9M" - Nystrom
Prust - Boyd - Goon
Bouwmeester - Sarich
Dirty - Ugly
Johnson - Giordano
Tommy Salo
Behind The Numbers:
- Ladislav Smid has now gone
eightnine games without registering a shot on goal. - Last year Sheldon Souray and Shawn Horcoff were second in team scoring with 53 points. So far this year seven Oilers are on pace for more.
- The last time two Oilers scored five points in the same game the team had a legitimate chance to the win the Stanley Cup. I choose to take this as a sign.
- Jeff Deslauriers is sending this link to all of his friends (yes, even the Facebook variety) and hoping they don't bother to click through and see the games played.
- Shawn Horcoff needs at least 16 faceoffs to keep pace with Sidney Crosby. Does anyone else think it's unfair that Crosby's faceoff percentage is 59.7% on 216 draws? If the Oilers need a faceoff specialist, I pick him.
- The Oilers have taken 41 minor penalties so far, good for a tie for 15th in the league. Ethan Moreau co-leads the team in this category with 4. There are several players tied for the league lead with 8... including Sidney Crosby (do you need to lead the league in everything!)
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Tommy Salo
I loved that whole Flames lineup, but this killed me.
Though who is “Lombo makes $1.9M”?
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Yeah – Scott is making fun of Jokinen. Lombardi was a better player at the time of the trade and Phoenix got to dump salary. What a confusing trade.
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Thanks Kent. I didn’t want to disappoint.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions
This is great news! It makes me even happier that I’ll be around to watch the game tonight.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Any chance someone can DVR this and transcribe?
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I think CBC archives it. Can you watch CBC online?
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions
No not you as in “one,” you as in Derek in particular, or I guess Americans in general. He lives in the States.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions
SUM
What are your pregame feelings on this?
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I can only assume that this is bound to happen tonight. With Prust out there too we might even see a mini line brawl. Poor Dustin Boyd.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe we won’t have to see that line again now! That would be awesome!
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions
What a brutal pass by Gilbert … he needs to bear down in his own end dammit. ’Bulin took a dart as a result.
… and now a giveaway directly in front of his own net. Chrissakes, man!
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Gilbert ices the puck to avoid the hit. Nilsson took a big crunch to clear the zone and then Gilbert pussied out in the neutral zone. He needs to grow a pair.
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Nice defensive play by Hemsky there. He’s looking good in the early going.
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It’s the old “they already had two and they’re already shorthanded” leniency.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions
You're right
… and the zebras are dead ******* wrong. They just turned this whole game by allowing that crap play. Call the rules, dammit. That was blatant, caused a turnover and a scoring chance, it’s a penalty plain and simple.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Well Weekes did call it a crosscheck. OTOH, he called Zack Stortini Steve MacIntyre, while Mark Lee talked about a “fistful of elbows”. Hard to belive they pay these guys to talk. … or those guys to ref.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions
… you know, unless you’ve had the last two to start the game and you’re already shorthanded. In that case, it’s a lower-than-normal-risk-still-high-reward play! I know I’d take it into consideration if I were playing.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Committing an infraction when your team is already shorthanded is a dumb play. He got away with it that time cuz the refs are incompetent. They aren’t always.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:44 PM MDT up reply actions
In general the Flames are getting a lot of opportunities to get behind the Oilers defence. They’ve had some odd-man rushes and a few near misses as well.
NHL refereeing has been in the dumps for a decade. Noone denies this!
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 8:40 PM MDT reply actions
For a decade?
You really are young, aren’t you, Ben?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Might as well say that all refs have always been crap in all sports.
At some point that argument becomes vacuous. I can’t think of a single sport where the fans like the refs. In fact fans of every sport, nay every league, generally think their particular refs are the worst out there.
They’ll make mistakes. And they’ll also make countless great calls and decisions that no one will ever notice or bring up. We oughta get over it.
That being said, that Calgary goal was bullshit :P
It’s the twenty-first century, isn’t it? How have we not built robots to provide flawless refereeing?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Just wait 'til the next Oiler does the least ticky tack thing
Tweeet!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t mind those ones too much. It didn’t prevent a scoring chance and Cogs looked like he was trying to draw the call. I’m all for not rewarding that.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you 100% here. He looks like he wants the puck, especially in the offensive zone. Compared to the first game of the year against Calgary he just looks a lot more confident.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Nilsson
He looks really strong tonight.
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Ahhh
So this is where the cool kids hang out, its like finding a bunch of hoods smoking behind the portables.
You know, percentages etc etc., the Oilers have holes but I think we might have to admit they may have a decent team. Penner/Hemsky/Gagner have been pretty strong tonight. With 27 and 89 and 5 all looking quality (and 46 looks like a top niner maybe, there I said it) suddenly you have a lot less holes to fill / worry about.
Nice play by Stortini on Iginla.
I think the official position of the Copper & Blue may be that Gagpensky is not only the best line in the league but the best combination of anything ever in any field.
At least, that’s my position as 20% of the Copper & Blue writing team, not counting fanposts, and therefore that’s probably law.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions
It’s true that there are some things to like but I’m not one to throw the percentages away. They’re competitive for sure, both in terms of their results and in terms of attitude but this team needs to add some things in order to have sustained success. Still, it’s always nice when you have more keepers than you thought.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Zoooooorrrrrggggg!!!!!
Great hit. Iginla had that coming and more. Souray out, Khabibulin run over, somebody has to stand up to that punk, I don’t care how squeaky clesan his image is. Clean hit by Zack, stupid retaliation penalty by Jarmoe. And here’s a replay of Iginla high-sticking Stortini first earlier on, plus several punches after the clean hit, and he only got one penalty.
Why are the fans booing? Aren’t they watching?
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Iginla had just dumped it in
One steambo … wham.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Or maybe the right question is, if it was so clean, why didn’t he lunge with his elbows up like most other hits he attempted that period? Looked to me like he held up a bit.
Good sportsmanship? That’s probably it. This isn’t Phaneuf we’re talking about.
Oh, it’s much better to have Jarmoe scared than decapitated. It’s simple cunning tactics from the Rommel of the fourth line.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I know
But by my count it should be 6 penalties to 0, including a triple minor to Iginla on that last play … four for drawing blood with the high stick plus the two he did get for roughing. Stortini did absoilutely nothing outside of the rulebook … he just took advanatge of the fact Iginla lollygagged on the shoot-in and hit him right in the chest.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Honestly, the Flames have been called for three minors, the Oilers zero. It’s difficult to argue that the refs are screwing the Oilers.
Bruce: Refs miss high sticks sometimes. The Zorg hit was probably a bit late; the pass was clearly gone.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
… and crosschecks. To my eye the ones they missed were against Calgary. Of course, I’m biased.
I got no issues with that hit though, Iginla had just dumped the puck and was last to have played it. Watch the replay in real time if you get the chance.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
“By my count it should be 6 penalties to 0”. A bold statement from someone who was wondering if the Dome crowd was actually watching the game.
The three they did call, the obvious crosscheck on Bourque that led directly to the tying goal, the highsticking double minor on Iginla. Oilers are choirboys of course. :)
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Watched that last exchange multiple times on my PVR, still seeing the whole sequence the exact same way. Hit was clean, and Iginla didn’t like it one bit. Good.
Nice to see Gagner trashtalking Bourque in the circle afterwards … Oilers are getting that old feeling back. **** Calgary
Btw, in case you hadn’t noticed, I’m kinda getting the old feeling back myself.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:06 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
The SBN version of that is “Actions,” then “Rec.”
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by Doogie2K on Oct 25, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Btw, in case you hadn’t noticed, I’m kinda getting the old feeling back myself.
I suppose I should hope that you’re outraged at Phaneuf by the 2nd int, then. :)
Most of us are outraged at Phaneuf every time his heart beats.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s how I’m looking at it. Earlier this evening, facing the last-place team in the league and needing a win to make the Major League Soccer playoffs for the first time, Toronto FC lost 5-0 in the pouring rain.
So this game isn’t likely to be worse than that game was.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:09 PM MDT reply actions
Ben: I feel your pain.
I like baseball almost as much as you like soccer, and my team has been the St.Louis Cardinals since 1962. The night they lost a playoff game on a dropped fly ball with 2 out in the 9th, then the Oilers lost to the Flames on a last-second illegal goal followed by a questionable shootout goal was about as bad as it gets. Next night my Eskimos gave up a 62-yard touchdown in the dying seconds to lose yet a third heartbreaker in 24 hours for the cherry on top.
Flames have already lucksucked two wins off the Oilers this year … I’m in no mood for any further charity.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Who was worse on the GA, Khabibulin or Peckham?
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Peckham was worse I think. He’s had a hard time in the defensive zone tonight. Calgary does a good job cycling the puck and Peckham seems to have a hard time understanding which guy is his at various times. It’s reminiscent of Smid the last couple of years.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions
False alarm
I guess there rotating 7
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions
The 20th star of today’s game: we, the viewing public.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM MDT reply actions
Gilbert or Khabibulin at the half way mark
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Sorry, but it's Gilbert with a bullet
He has been nothing short of horrid
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions
the defense and goaltender aren’t good tonight.
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Hey, Bobby’s not a wimp. He’ll go shoulder-to-shoulder with a guy. Iginla was dogging it a bit there and Nilsson surprised him.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Smid, Khabibulin, and somebody I missed with the universal gesture for “lacrosse afterwards, guys?”
Didn’t see it live. Waiting for the replay.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:25 PM MDT reply actions
Khabibulin STILL stands up on pucks that aren’t going to go 2 feet high…and the tip goes down.
Stop it. stop it.
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Peckham has to learn you don’t make soft backhand passes across your own zone. Grebs had no choice but to slash the guy’s stick … and yes, Matt, that was a penalty.
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Except a bit worse… experience counts :)
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Not a chance
It’s effin Calgary.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
That one, much like the one in the last game, is close enough that your opinion probably depends mostly on what colour jersey you’re cheering for. Though, the call on the ice was no-goal I thought, so the guys in Toronto must have thought it was pretty clear.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
The call on the ice was goal, so Toronto left it in McCreary’s hands.
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For the record: Khabibulin was playing high on the high deflection again.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:27 PM MDT reply actions
He’s reacting to the puck, Ben. There’s no way he plays a deflection on a shot like that, he was raising his blocker to deflect it away.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Without the deflection, that puck was thundering off the crossbar. His chosen strategy of “standing around and flailing awkwardly” wasn’t going to be a winner no matter what happened.
Bring me Jeff Deslauriers, Bruce. Bring him to me now.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree, I would have started Deslauriers in this game given Bulin’s record of “killing” the Flames so far this year. He did kill the Canucks, so I would have saved him for tomorrow.
That said, Ben, there’s no way a goalie reacts to a high shot by thinking “that might hit the crossbar, so I can leave it alone and play the guy waving his stick at the puck two feet in front of me”. This isn’t soccer you know … things happen fast. :) I assign 0.0% blame to Khabibulin for that last goal. The two prior ones, I had a problem with.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, look, our non-robot referees do know the signal for “cross-checking”. Perhaps they looked it up during the intermission.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM MDT reply actions
Smid
Is awesome.
Bruce, you’ve been talking about this club needing this for years.
Goes after Bourque. Goes after Langkow. Give them something to think about.
I’ve been a Smid fan for years too. He’s still growing into the role, but coming along very nicely indeed. I love his edge.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Bulin lucky not to get 2 for leaving the crease during an altercation there.
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Weekes: "This game would be quite different if not for Nikolai Khabibulin."
For one, we’d be winning.
(Also, a “big save(!)” is letting the puck smack you in the shoulder. I guess we know why Kevin Weekes isn’t tending goal in the NHL anymore.)
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:37 PM MDT reply actions
Credit where due
… that was a helluva stop off that deflection. Calgary with 17 shots in <14 minutes.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I’ve contacted IBM and leased Deep Blue to calculate the Oilers’ Corsi numbers for our post-game thread.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions
There’s no delicate way to put this: Bobby Nilsson has no idea what to do on a line with Stortini and Jacques. Not the foggiest ghost of a thought. It’s like if he were playing with a cinder block and fifty tonnes of gelatin.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 PM MDT reply actions
One of these things is not like the other. I prefer JFJ and Zorg on separate lines myself, opening up room for two skill guys.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
If that were really Bruce, he’d have included Stortini as a skill guy.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
No sooner you say that than a line brawl breaks out.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Jacques looked like he was ready to murder Johnson there. Those eyes were something scary.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Say what you want about Giordano, but he saved Jacques from seriously starting the lawnmower on Aaron Johnson.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 PM MDT reply actions
I was just about to say I like Giordano
… as a player. He’s had a fine game.
But right now he can go **** himself.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Smid takes his helmet off, Giordano leaves his on.
Do you suppose maybe Mr. Referee noticed the crosscheck by Johnson on JFJ’s head? Chrissakes.
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Smid wears a visor, Giordano doesn’t.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Fair's fair though
Smid wound up hitting Giordano’s helmet.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
"This is going to have to be a meat and potatoes powerplay for the Oilers."
Has Weekes not heard about Penner’s diet yet?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM MDT reply actions
If this gets waved off, I think we can officially consider this a conspiracy.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions
PENNER YOU FAT BASTARD I READ YOUR BOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM MDT reply actions
How did McCreary not find a way to disallow that? Maybe there is a hockey god.
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Not to be outdone, Mark Lee just said that Tom Gilbert took all of Cory Sarich’s shaft in the face.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions
And then another two. And then I’ll be a happy guy.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
71 with the old HUA on that one. Pay attention, man.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
If you lived in Calgary, could you be satisfied?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Because things would be soooooo different if this were Rexall.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’s got to shape up. Start irrationally crushing on some of these Oiler idiots, Scott!
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Hockey is a game of passion.
I’ll be dispassionate tomorrow. (’Til game time, that is.)
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions
See, I just save time by being passionate towards everything.
On Friday, the guy at Tim Horton’s forgot to give me my blueberry bagel. I gave him the twentieth star and yelled two thousand words of Homerian verse at him talking about how much he sucked rusty nails compared to Dustin Penner, Sam Gagner, and Ales Hemsky.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
If this were Rexall and it was the same game, the fans would be booing for sure.
As I said right at the time of the Bourque crosscheck:
They just turned this whole game by allowing that crap play.
But since Calgary benefitted from that and other calls, and since Calgary is ahead by two, one would think Calgary fans have fewer reasons to be unhappy.
Except for the fact they live in Calgary, I suppose.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Very possible. There’s a lot happening. What else did I miss? I feel like a zebra.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I meant that if the roles were completely reversed, i.e. the Flames were behind but getting the vast majority of the PPs, I have no doubt Rexall would resound with boos for the refs when Calgary was awarded a 5v3 shortly after closing the gap to 4-2 on a separate PP.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
At first I was like, “Hey, what the hell man?!” and then I realized. And I felt shame for that name association yet again.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess what we’re all saying is “Scott Oake isn’t very good at interviews.” Which isn’t exactly a news flash, I realize, but that never stops my “Dustin Penner is fat” jokes.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Those are even funnier knowing that he reads us
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I parsed that wrong for a second and was really surprised. “Wait, Scott Oake can read?”
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I was thinking about a regular “Scott Oake said…” feature, but then realized I had to pay attention to him to write that feature.
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Scott Oake, did you ask if “this [Battle of Alberta] has the highest level of intensity?” of a guy who fought a guy in the first Battle of Alberta this season?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM MDT reply actions
Zorg’s playing alright for sure. Very crappy luck to be -2 on two “innocent bystander” plays. Has been cut twice in the call of duty, and really hammered Iginla when he got the chance. Calgary fans really detest him, which can only be a good thing.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Calgary statisticians have the hit count at 10-5 Calgary through two. Zorg with one hit. What game are they watching?
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And this is why anyone who pays attention to the hit stat had a lamp dropped on them as an infant.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey!!!
It’s far from perfect — see above — but bad information is better than no information. You just have to take it with a tonne of salt.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Bad information is, in statistics, significantly worse than no information, because bad information leads to bad conclusions while no information needs to no conclusions.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
See my post from earlier today. Do you think all those hit counts over a long series of games, are wrong? They’re not deadly accurate, but they will identify the guys who do the hitting, especially within the context of a single team who are always being scored by the same scorer each night. Across teams they are problematic indeed.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
What unearthly substance is Patrick O’Sullivan’s hands made out of, and can it be used to armour a tank?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:13 PM MDT reply actions
“is Patrick O’Sullivan’s hands”. Time to request an edit button for these things.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I understand it’s been requested a number of times already.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
When Zach Stortini is on your power play, that means that Zach Stortini is on your power play.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:15 PM MDT reply actions
That is one decision I just don’t understand. Sure he’s played well enough but putting Stortini on the power play is just foolishness.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Like MacT with MacIntyre last year.
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I’d say they are impersonating bad referees, not great ones.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Good initiative by Kiprusoff to try and get an extra stick from Ethan Moreau there, but I think that should probably be a penalty.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:17 PM MDT reply actions
Except for Smid.
And Visnovsky’s had his moments.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I was really looking forward to that puck going in. It would have been a spectacular first NHL goal. Every time I see a play like that, just one play, it makes the whole game worth it no matter what else happened.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Technically, I’m not sure Dustin Penner should come off the ice for the rest of the game.
Possibly the rest of the season.
I mean, King Clancy was a sixty minute man, right?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:21 PM MDT reply actions
And yes, I know that back then medicine hadn’t been invented yet and people died of things like “catarrh” and “dropsy” and people were five feet tall and hockey mostly consisted of skating around a half-frozen slouth at one-quarter speed. But is Dustin Penner not the Norse God of Thunder?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, that wasn’t a very good shift by Peckham and Strudwick.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions
The absence of Souray is one reason why I started this game with a real mad-on for Calgary.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
The “hggggggggggh steamed milk and foam” woman from the Tim Horton’s cappuccino commercial is what I imagine Dion Phaneuf’s mom looking like.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:23 PM MDT reply actions
Two more muffins from O’Sullivan from point blank range. The “spectcular glove save” wouldn’t even have reached the goal line.
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They gets worse as he gets closer to the net.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
His shot selection is putrid. That’s the thing I’ve noticed: he’ll pass when he should shoot, and shoots when the goalie has all day to get ready for it.
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That’s great, except he’s evidently a horrible shooter. I like Ben’s analogy in the VAN post-game.
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That’s a pretty bad goal on Khabibulin’s part. I still can’t believe Dawes made it all the way to the Flames on the waiver wire.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:34 PM MDT reply actions
Trip by Langkow on Strudwick leads directly to another Flames’ goal. Call the trip on Horcoff, miss the one on Langkow. Business as usual.
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Nothing bad to say about Phaneuf yet. What’s up?
“By my count, the Oilers are winning this game 7-1.”
I had no problems with Phaneuf tonight. Other than the over-the-net shot that got tipped in, he wasn’t a huge factor. He usually catches my eye with bad decisions, didn’t see too many tonight. One of his better games.
"By my count, the Oilers are winning this game 7-1."
Touche.
In my view Oilers were very unfortunate to come out of the first tied … after that Calgary was the better team.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Love how they showed SMac on the bench after Dawes’ goal, as if to contrast the two teams’ waiver acquisitions.
Yeah, but at least our goalie is older and worse!
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions
So, After Hours should be good tonight, eh?
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:37 PM MDT reply actions
I think this is the first time this season where the Oilers look like they’ve just completely given up.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:44 PM MDT reply actions
They’re not the only ones. I’m cleaning my apartment right now.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions
A few guys played with flu I think. Oilers need a 20-man effort to win in that barn, and didn’t get one tonight.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Penner legitimately looked terrific, I thought. That said, I’m not even sure I’d call him the best Dustin in that game.
You liked Boyd that much tonight? I wasn’t watching for Flames through the game but he isn’t one of the guys on that end that made me take notice.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Boyd and Bourque were tremendous. 5 and 4 hits respetively from the parsimonious Calgary scorer … Oilers credited with 7 total. I didn’t see it quite that way, but I sure as hell noticed Bourque and Boyd. Two best players on the ice.
IMO Calgary’s best defenceman was Giordano.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I did notice Bourque a lot tonight. I also thought Bouwmeester was really good.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
My nominees for the roosters tonight go to Gilbert, Peckham and Khabibulin.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 10:52 PM MDT reply actions
Khabibulin, Gilbert, O’Sullivan.
Non-roster award to the refs.
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Gilbert #20 with a bullet
He was gawdawful. Is he flu-ridden? I almost hope so.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 24, 2009 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
It looks like he’ll need to average just over twenty per game to win the “most faceoffs taken” title this year.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions
The thing is, he really does do that sometimes. Clearly he’s relying on Horc to do a lot of faceoff work and tonight was somewhat exceptional since he clearly doesn’t trust MacIntyre as far as he can throw him. And let’s face it, he’s an old man and Mac is a big guy, he can’t throw him very far.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 25, 2009 2:04 AM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be so sure. When Quinn’s talking to a referee, I certainly expect he could launch me halfway to the penalty box from his spot. Granted, I’m not as heavy as Mac anymore, but what I"m saying is, he should at least get 20 ft or so.
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Dude? A Sutter? I left the CBC on for this? Forget it, I’m watching Da Vinci’s Inquest.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 24, 2009 11:09 PM MDT reply actions
Penner
The forwards are waiting for Penner or Hemsky to do something. The defense is hoping the puck doesn’t come to them. Averages caught up tonight.
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Ladislav Smid has now gone eight nine ten games without registering a shot on goal
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Yup, but I guess he’s a tough guy now. They don’t need no stinkin’ shots on net.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
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