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Theo Peckham Called Up


Today the Edmonton Oilers made the call to Springfield and brought Theo Peckham up to the big club.  Pat Quinn said today that "if Mike [Comrie] can't come down to Calgary tomorrow, then there's a good chance that Jason [Strudwick] will be lined up at foward."  Now, much to my chagrin, the Oilers have been using the Strudwick-Chorney pairing regularly on the PK so it will be interesting to see how Renney switches things up there.  Strudwick's also been used late in games when protecting a lead.  There's probably some chance that Strudwick will drop back in those situations and play both defence and forward tomorrow night against Calgary.  At any rate, it will be interesting to see what Renney does with two rookies on the blueline and one of the guys he trusts (Strudwick also played quite a lot of minutes with the Rangers when Renney was the head man there) playing forward.

More on Peckham after the jump.

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Theo Peckham was probably slated as the Oilers 8th defender coming into this season but wasn't the first guy to get the call from Springfield when a couple of veterans went down.  The combination of an ankle injury that lasted all of training camp and a strong camp from Taylor Chorney meant that when Staios and Souray went down early the Oilers felt more comfortable going with Chorney.  At this point, it seems that Peckham is now ready to go.

Theo Peckham is a nice call-up and is probably more ready for NHL action than Taylor Chorney.  At this point the two of them are battling for a spot in the lineup when the Oilers have enough forwards healthy to dress Strudwick on defense (Renney seems to really like him and will almost certainly put him back in).  I imagine Peckham will win this battle, especially since, with Souray and Staios out, the Oilers can use some more muscle on the back end.

Having said that, I'm considerably less bullish on Peckham than many others at this point in his career.  I see him as a potential regular 5-6 defenceman where many others see a lot more. Lowetide really turned me on (don't stop the quote here) to the idea of using "comps" or comparable players to do player evaluation.  The guy that I've thought of as the best comparable for Theo Peckham to this point in his career is Rick Berry.  The "seal value" that was used for Peckham in Jonathan and Derek's prospect profile was Jason Smith.  So let's take a look at all three of those guys from age 18 to age 21:

Theo Peckham, 6'2'' and 223 lbs, drafted in the 3rd round, 75th overall (OHL), Nov. birthday

Rick Berry, 6'2'' and 210 lbs, drafted in the 3rd round, 55th overall (WHL), Nov. birthday

Jason Smith, 6'3'' and 220 lbs, drafted in the 1st round, 18th overall (WHL), Nov. birthday

All three guys are almost exactly the same age and have similar size.  Smith has a clear edge in terms of draft pedigree which suggests that he's probably going to end up having the best career of the three.  In addition all three guys spent their junior hockey in the CHL.

 

At 18:

Peckham: OHL - 67 GP: 6-9-15, -11, 236 Pims

Berry: WHL - 72 GP: 12-21-33, ?, 125 Pims

Smith: WHL - 62 GP: 9-29-38, ?, 138 Pims

So far it looks like Berry is a better comp for Smith than he is for Peckham!  This speaks to how much Peckham caught up to the others in his 19 year-old season as we'll see shortly.  There's also a big discrepancy here in terms of penalty minutes but that huge number has been gradually coming down for Peckham ever since.

 

At 19:

Peckham: OHL - 53 GP: 10-25-35, -12, 173 Pims

Berry: WHL - 59 GP: 9-21-30, +10, 131 Pims

Smith: WHL - 64 GP: 14-52-66, ?, 175 Pims, played in WJC

Jason Smith is a clear step up on the other two in terms of offence (as Oiler fans remember well... that beauty winner against the Sharks in 2006 was worth a hundred times rimming it around the boards).  Smith also adds to his pedigree advantage by playing for the Canadian entry at the World Junior Championships.  Peckham and Berry are showing similar offence and were probably both options on the power play.

 

At 20:

Peckham: AHL - 59 GP: 6-7-13, -14, 174 Pims, 1 NHL game

Berry: AHL - 62 GP: 2-6-8, -12, 153 Pims

Smith: AHL - 20 GP: 6-3-9, ?, 31 Pims and NHL - 41 GP: 0-5-5, +7, 43 Pims

Peckham and Berry look pretty darn close in this analysis while Jason Smith is kicking the crap out of both of them again.  In terms of points, Smith is almost at .5 per game in the AHL and he played half a season with the New Jersey Devils.  In order for Peckham to catch Smith he's going to need to take a huge step forward.  Meanwhile, Peckham and Berry have pretty similar totals.

 

At 21:

Peckham: AHL - 47 GP: 6-13-19, -7, 107 Pims, 15 NHL games

Berry: AHL - 64 GP: 9-16-25, -6, 148 Pims, 0 NHL games

Smith: Injured most of the season.

Peckham has a clear advantage over Berry with his 15 NHL games but their AHL numbers are still very close.  In his 22 year old season Berry managed 19 NHL games.  We'll see if Peckham gets many more than that this season.  I think Peckham will end up somewhat above that number but I doubt he establishes himself as an NHL regular (something around 30-35 games).  His time as a regular is probably next year (when he becomes eligible for waivers)... which is the exact same time that Berry had his first 60+ game season.

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Smith also adds to his pedigree advantage by playing for the Canadian entry at the World Junior Championships.

I can’t picture Gator in the WJHC. I’m still seeing this grizzled, mean fucker ramming some 19-year-old Russian kid into the boards

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by Doogie2K on Oct 23, 2009 8:22 PM MDT reply actions  

If you remove “grizzled” I think you probably have it spot on.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 23, 2009 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

But that’s what I have trouble with. I can’t picture Gator not being at least 31 and covered in small scars and facial hair.

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by Doogie2K on Oct 24, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

He’s looked like that since he was 12

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by Derek Zona on Oct 24, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

While I’m all for comparables, you’re comparing the offensive numbers of three defense-first defensemen. This seems flawed, somehow.

by Benjamin Massey on Oct 23, 2009 8:27 PM MDT reply actions  

While offence is a part of it, I think there’s other things going on as well. The offence establishes that Smith probably has much better puck skills than the other two. Smith’s pedigree is also much better all down the line, including how long it takes the players to establish themselves in the NHL. In addition to the offence, the +/- for Peckham and Berry track well through the AHL. While offence isn’t exactly essential, I think it does indicate a certain level of “NHL hands.” I don’t think Peckham has them and, for me, that sets his expectations a lot lower than a guy like Smid or, as this example I think shows, Jason Smith. Having said all that, if you’ve got a suggestion for a better comp or a better method, I’m all ears.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 23, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think that this is a decent comp – the only thing that I wish we had was toughness of play from those guys. Jonathan’s qualcomp shows how Peckham played the tough minutes and kept his head mostly above water.

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by Derek Zona on Oct 24, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree that this is a significant missing piece but it would be pretty difficult to go out and retrieve. It is probably one of the things that people can lean on for hope but… at one point I remember Mathieu Roy just dominating the AHL and that’s a guy that still hasn’t established himself.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair he was being developed by one of the worst development organizations in the NHL at the time.

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by Derek Zona on Oct 24, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice comparison

A few mitigating factors:

Smith’s WHL clubs all scored 300+ goals.
Peckham’s OHL clubs never scored more than 256 goals.

Smith’s AHL club scored 312 goals.
Peckham’s scored 214.

A posse ad esse.

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by Jonathan Willis on Oct 24, 2009 3:32 PM MDT reply actions  

See? This is the stuff that we need to look at. Nice find JW.

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by Derek Zona on Oct 24, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Even if we adjust the offence Smith still comes out well ahead. He consistently has about twice as much offence through junior and the AHL and his teams weren’t scoring twice as much as Peckham’s. It probably brings them closer but Smith still seems like a big stretch to me, especially considering the gap in pedigree and the time it’s taken Peckham to make it to the NHL compared to Smith.

by Scott Reynolds on Oct 24, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Should be interesting to watch it play out then.

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by Derek Zona on Oct 24, 2009 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

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