Edmonton - Columbus Postgame: Gagpensky
Was it the birth of a legend, or was it just another false saviour? There have been so many through the years. How many Kid Lines has this team run out, seen notch a couple fantastic efforts, then fade into nothingness. Where today there are Ales Hemsky and Dustin Penner, once there was Bernie Nicholls, or Craig Simpson, or some other good-but-not-great player who constantly seemed on the verge of taking that last, longest step into immortality.
Nobody gains immortality at expense of the Columbus Blue Jackets. It is a contradiction in terms, even this season when the Blue Jackets are quite good and the Oilers, by every metric except wins and losses, are not. The true test will come when this alloy of old and new faces someone worthy of bearing witness to greatness. But we cannot condemn their brilliance by the opposition it faces. The Oilers were down and out, their corpse twitching on the pavement, blood pouring from their wounds, waiting only for the police to draw a chalk outline around them.
Then the surge came, so gently I reckoned I could hear strings in the background, like an orchestra playing up to the crescendo. Dustin Penner almost lovingly tucking a puck past his old friend Mathieu Garon on the short side. Seven minutes later, Ales Hemsky repeating with power what Penner achieved with finesse. And in the third period it was Penner again, banging in the tying goal and from that point on it was only a question of how many the Oilers would win by. When Penner ripped a wristshot that caromed off of Garon straight into Lubomir Visnovsky's wheelhouse, it almost felt like they were showing off: next one, I'll bank off the scoreboard.
The Oilers' leaders were true of heart and the team followed. Robert Nilsson ended proceedings with a perfect backhand into the empty net, a routine play save for the fact that he was halfway between his own blue and goal lines at the time. It was that sort of night. Lead and we shall follow. Or, to pick a more conventional hockey metaphor, the team just climbed on the first line's back.
It was a statement game for young Sam Gagner. Some scribes - and I am one of them - said the Oilers made a mistake taking the Son of Dave over Jakub Voracek in the draft all those years ago. Voracek had the complete package, whereas Gagner was a flash in the pan with a junior club that had always overinflated its players' results. Voracek spent an extra season seasoning in junior, Gagner made the jump too early. And yes, Gagner has played far tougher competition than Voracek so far in their respective careers, but Voracek's conventional numbers are so far beyond Gagner's and at root hockey is a game where your guys have to score more than the other guys.Well, Voracek had two assists, both well-earned. And Gagner had two assists. But Gagner also scored a lovely little goal, was a dervish up and down the ice, and won seven of nine faceoffs into the bargain, as if to add a little "anything you can do I can do better" facewash to his Czech adversary. So far on the year, Gagner is ahead of Voracek in goals and points and playing his toughest competition yet, and even in the hearts of hard-boiled cynics like myself there cannot help but be a little surge of hope.
I do not subscribe to the doctrine of the Big Goal. The greatest advantage of scoring a goal near the end of the period is that you just scored a goal, not when it came. But Gagner seems increasingly to be at ease with the spotlight in a way that few of his generation can boast. Gagner played his heart out in the Battle of Alberta, scored a dagger of a goal and had an all-round fine game against Vancouver, and with the Oilers so rattled at home by the Blue Jackets he played superbly; a game that would make him the first star almost any other night. I do believe that athletes react in different ways to pressure, that - to boil it down to a much-loathed word - some are "clutch" and some are not. Sam Gagner increasingly is coming out well in that measure.
Shawn Horcoff? The veteran, the man supplanted by this beardless youth and stripped of his rightful inheritance on the Oilers first line? Alas, mortal once again! Given the strongest possible signal to shape up he reacted with another pedestrian effort similar to those that have dogged him all year. His faceoff percentage was poor for the second straight game, losing fourteen of twenty-four. He was defensively sound and did not make a single mistake. But where was the sly creativity that we have so long loved from Horcoff? If the old steadiness of hand and heart is back Horcoff will contribute to this team, but what happened to the little coups of audacity, the cheeky backhand passes and clever little flicks up the neutral zone, that so defined him as a first line centre rather than another Michael Peca? Even in Horpensky's brief cameos this season it was Horcoff who was along for the ride, fighting the puck while Hemsky and Penner made the world revolve around them. Every rise has a fall, and Shawn Horcoff may be the great tragedy so far in this Oilers season.
At the end, it all comes back to Hemsky and Penner. The former having shed the sickness that nearly felled him against Vancouver even as it ravaged his teammates (flu? a preoccupation for mere mortals!), dancing among the best all-round defensive team in the Western Conference like he were Guy Lafleur come amongst us again. And Penner, once again earning the "fatso!" chants in sheer, disbelieving admiration rather than scorn. Some of us always believed. The underlying numbers were always there, and for someone allegedly so soft and lazy he had the oddest way of getting elite results anyway. But we were, in a strange way, wrong. Properly motivated and with a coach who truly believes in him, Penner has moved from mere greatness to being truly, terrifyingly good. His physical dominance this season, the way he combines the primal fear of being torn from limb from limb with the fear of being executed just as swiftly by his puck skills, has been equaled by no Oiler but Messier, and that is the most rarefied air that any hockey player can breathe.
The Oilers met a better team tonight, and they came out the victors. Two men were responsible for this. Pat Quinn would do well to heed this lesson.
The Copper & Blue Reverse Three Stars:
18th Star: D Jason Strudwick. Another standard bad game from the journeyman defenseman and dominant frontrunner for the Golden Rooster. Strudwick played a relatively light 18:02, less than Taylor Chorney and ahead of only the flu-stricken Ladislav Smid among Oiler defensemen, and Tom Renney seemed to be conspicuously avoiding Rick Nash and company whenever Strudwick and Chorney went over the boards. Yet Strudwick still struggled conspicuously, being taken wide or outmuscled for the puck by such luminaries as Kristian Huselius and Jason Chimera, who humiliated Strudwick to score Columbus's fourth goal of the night and seemingly put them in control. His repeated failure to get the puck out of the zone resulted in, among other things, a Nikolai Khabibulin tripping penalty. In truth, Strudwick got away with a fair bit himself.
Strudwick's foibles are, of course, forced onto the Oilers by the injuries to Sheldon Souray and Steve Staios. But his performances have been simply intolerable and he's shown no sign in the last year of being able to raise his game. Strudwick may be a slightly better player than, say, Theo Peckham, but the additional experience for a promising prospect would be well worth the marginal drop-off in skill. Even Dean Arsene seems like he'd at least provide a different dimension than Strudwick, who seems like Steve Staios with even less footspeed and puck presence this season.
19th Star: LW Mike Comrie. Along with O'Sullivan, Comrie was the only Oiler to go -2 on the night. But O'Sullivan was active all over the ice, mustered five shots, looked better than usual defensively, and while mediocre was at least inoffensive. Comrie merely repeated what we've seen from him the last few games: bad at even strength and worse on the power play. He was never a very good power play man, and his continued presence on the man advantage is simply staggering. Comrie's entire career suggests that he can't get it done in the NHL 5v4, but he's a silky offensive player so therefore he must be good on the power play. It is ridiculous and patently untrue, and with his ill-conceived passes and lack of vision it's costing the Oilers goals.
We know that Comrie can play, but he needs to have his role reduced. Play him with O'Sullivan and Jacques and keep him the hell away from any special teams. Let them take on third-tier opposition, where Comrie and O'Sullivan can feast and Jacques can do little harm. Mike has the ability to be a contributor at even strength, but he needs to be in the right position to succeed. And his power play ineptitude is bordering on the legendary.
20th Star: D Denis Grebeshkov. A guy with a nickname like "LSD Blotter" is going to wind up on this list from time to time. It started out bad for Grebeshkov, who made Kristian Huselius's first goal a bit too easy for Jakub Voracek as he span and sent in a perfect backhand pass. That was not the end of his twenty-four minutes of suffering, either. On the powerplay, Grebeshkov sent wide-open, elementary passes onto Lubomir Visnovsky's backhand, forcing the Oilers to reset. At even strength, Grebeshkov seemed in over his head regardless of the opposition, being beaten by Rick Nash or R.J. Umberger with equal aplomb. He was not at his worst, and he didn't send any of his trademark passes to nowhere or decapitate one of his own players with a slap shot. But he was bad.
Full marks to Grebeshkov so far this season. He's been Edmonton's best defenseman next to Ladislav Smid, and his development over the last two seasons has been more than encouraging. He has improved in the mental aspect of the game and these crazy nights which once accounted for two games out of every three are becoming more and more infrequent. But they're still there, and until he eliminates them from his repertoire I cannot help but view Grebeshkov with a mixture of hope and apprehension.
Season-to-Date Standings:
16 points: Jason Strudwick
11 points: Mike Comrie
8 points: Denis Grebeshkov, Nikolai Khabibulin
6 points: Jean-Francois Jacques
3 points: Sam Gagner, Shawn Horcoff, Ethan Moreau, Ryan Stone
1 point: Tom Gilbert, Ales Hemsky
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Like I said in the GDT – Grebs just sitting down to kickstart the final penalty kill was awesome.
Reminded me of 2:05 of this clip
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by Derek Zona on Oct 22, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just finished watching the game and thought I’d throw a few thoughts in here:
Penner-Gagner-Hemsky – They were simply fantastic (and as far as Derek’s little bet, only went offside once if I recall correctly). Dustin Penner was clearly the best player on the ice.
Nilsson-Cogliano-Jacques – They were not very good from where I sat and I think that was mostly on Jacques. I would’ve given him one of the roosters instead of Strudwick for this game for sure. His positioning was just terrible in the D-zone all game. He was really chasing the puck around a lot and having him out there on the PK is even worse than at EV.
Horcoff-O’Sullivan-Moreau-Comrie – I know Moreau took another O-zone penalty this game but this line looked much better with him than with 91. I think it would be interesting to see them in a hard-match role but that’s not Quinn’s style. Comrie is a weird guy. He does a very good job at finding space to shoot in the O-zone and it’s often in the slot. But that’s it. Everything else just seems weak. On a Jackets 3-on-2 he was the third man coming back into the zone and he just didn’t take anybody. At all. He sat high as though he was a fourth Jacket option. How he can have such good “where to be” instincts on one side of the puck and such bad instincts on the other is dumbfounding.
Stortini-MacIntyre – They didn’t play much but, to be frank, they didn’t really look any worse than the 12-13-22 line.
Grebeshkov-Gilbert – 37 made a bunch of bad decisions and bad plays. Jakub Voracek made him look silly on a couple of occasions. 77 sometimes has a bad habit of watching the puck instead of taking a man in front of the net on scramble plays. One of the Jackets goals had one Jacket get the puck while both 77 and 91 were watching. Overall though I thought Gilbert did quite well.
Visnovsky-Smid – I thought these two again played really well. That penalty on 71 in the second was just terrible. Fortunately for us, the PP that led to the tying goal was just as bad. Grebs plows the guy into the boards and the guy misses him with an errant stick while he’s on his ass and yet he gets a penalty. Yikes. The refs were bad tonight. Anyway, Vis was just awesome. He did a lot of stuff really well.
Strudwick-Chorney – Not as bad as it could have been. These guys are over their heads for sure but I think Strudwick is getting a bit of a bad rap in this space usually. I mean he’s bad but Chorney isn’t any better.
PK – Moreau and O’Sullivan just give the point shot away. I can’t imagine that’s a recipe for long term success. Jacques should never see the ice there. Also, it’s baffling that Chorney and Strudwick get any SH ice let alone lead the D. Why? I ask it again, why?
PP – Having watched all of the Avs games this year I feel pretty confident in saying that the Oilers really suck at the PP. Tonight was better than usual but even tonight the Oilers didn’t sustain pressure in the O-zone like the really good PPs in the league.
Rick Nash – That fourth Oiler goal was hilarious. Nash takes a swim in the corner and then gets up and whines to the refs over the no-call instead of skating back and then the Oilers score. It must have been a frustrating night for him but that was one serious over-sell. Perhaps next time he’ll just try to get up quickly and get back into the play.
Ken Hitchcock – Noticed that he got Nash out on Mac’s first shift of the game. When you’re icing a line of Jacques-Nilsson-Cogliano and the opposing coach is bush sitting his top guys for a different line, you really don’t have much forward depth. Also, the look on his face after Visnovsky’s goal was tremendous.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 23, 2009 2:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Horcoff-O’Sullivan-Moreau-Comrie – I know Moreau took another O-zone penalty this game but this line looked much better with him than with 91. I think it would be interesting to see them in a hard-match role but that’s not Quinn’s style. Comrie is a weird guy. He does a very good job at finding space to shoot in the O-zone and it’s often in the slot. But that’s it. Everything else just seems weak. On a Jackets 3-on-2 he was the third man coming back into the zone and he just didn’t take anybody. At all. He sat high as though he was a fourth Jacket option. How he can have such good "where to be" instincts on one side of the puck and such bad instincts on the other is dumbfounding.
Comrie is in deep to outplay his contract number. Hopoefully Pisani sends him to the fourth line.
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by Derek Zona on Oct 23, 2009 6:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When Penner ripped a wristshot that caromed off of Garon straight into Lubomir Visnovsky’s wheelhouse, it almost felt like they were showing off: next one, I’ll bank off the scoreboard.
Like that Jordan-Bird McDonald’s commercial.
I do believe that athletes react in different ways to pressure, that – to boil it down to a much-loathed word – some are “clutch” and some are not. Sam Gagner increasingly is coming out well in that measure.
Anything with the whiff of sports psychology is blasphemy in these parts. ;) But yeah, I also think that “clutch” is one of those overplayed sports cliches that does, in fact, have a grounding in reality.
I can’t contribute anything else to this discussion other than…standing ovation. If you’d told me at the start of the year Dustin Penner would earn himself a Standing O before the year was ten games old, I’d have called the men in the white coats.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 23, 2009 6:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t contribute anything else to this discussion other than…standing ovation. If you’d told me at the start of the year Dustin Penner would earn himself a Standing O before the year was ten games old, I’d have called the men in the white coats.
Does it count if it was only one person…in his living room?
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by Derek Zona on Oct 23, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I knew you’d be standing and applauding regardless. ;)
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by Doogie2K on Oct 23, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man my best point of the game was when we were on the PK and Penner out muscled Russel and took the puck to Garon and almost scored
by SumOil on Oct 23, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our top line was damn dominant. However, we will need others to play a better game if we are to win consistently
by SumOil on Oct 23, 2009 7:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Amicus Brief should be framed and sent to MacT and Penner. I went and read it again. Penner is close to becoming a cult hero.
by SumOil on Oct 23, 2009 8:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And we shall lead the revolution.
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by Derek Zona on Oct 23, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesomeness
Pure awesomeness is what Penner was last night. That was a performance for the ages and yet as he said himself, he probably could have had a few more. I thought for sure he’d finally lift the puck in on that one tight drive to the net where he got pushed past the puck after the inital shot but still stuck his stick back across the crease for 2nd and 3rd efforts. Penner was possessed.
Making an obvious statement considering he got 5 points, but by far Hemsky’s best and impactful game of the season.
Gagner probably played his best game as well, and that trio looks like it put fear into other teams for a variety of reasons.
Grebs is not even close to being the best D on the team this year. He’s put up some good Off. numbers, but usually they are only to make up for how he costs the team in his own end. Wow is that a misjudgement. Visnovsky by a landslide as being best D. He does it at both ends, and often from one to the other. He should be wearing ‘7’, not 71, because that’s who he reminds me of.
As clear as Lubo is #1, Smid is #2. Like Lubo, he started slow this year. Like Lubo, he’s not perfect. Like Lubo, he’s doing lots of things well, especially in his own end.
Right now, Chorney is #3. Overall he’s not that noticeable, and really, that’s a good thing. He’s getting comfortable in the NHL. Not getting beat bad like Struds, Gilbert or Grebs. Keeping things simple. I like that. Very good for a rookie.
Gilbert stinks. First year watching the team closely, but I was hearing how good this guy was. What was he looking at as Khabi gave up the rebound on the 1st goal. Only goal I give any blame to Khabi, and unfortunately it turned a game that at the time was going pretty much the Oilers way. But it doesn’t even happen if Gilbert does anything at all other than be a sign post pointing which way to turn on the red lamp. And that wasn’t the only time for sure that Columbus followed that sign to the lamp.
Strudwick was a sign post himself particularly on one play I noticed coming off the boards. What does his sign read, ‘Clueless’? I will refrain from other ideas but feel free to add your own Strud signs.
Not too much positive from the other lines. Hopefully O’Sullivan will make better players out of whichever linemates Quinn decides to keep him with, if Quinn ever stops all the tinkering. I love the connection he made with the so called ‘Gagpensky’ trio, and that is a resounding success… but I’m always weary off game to game line adjustments. Especially since if someone who gets to play with Pat O long enough that player might start to get some easy goals. I like Pat O’s go behind the net, whirl around pass across the crease that fed Penner a gift against Minny. Too bad nobody was home last night when he did the same move. But that’s why familiarity is huge among linemates. If I’m on his line and I see him go around the net, I know where I’m going next for an easy marker. I’d like to see Nilsson and Pat O with Horcoff for a few game and see if that wakes up Horcoff. Heck, maybe that pair should have Stortini centre them. After all, Storts has had better hands that Horcoff so far. Either way, something along those lines and you probably end up with a potent 1-2 punch with the top lines.
When all is said and done, you gotta love the comeback. You gotta love the consistent goal production. You gotta love the wins. 6-2-1. Against a very good Columbus team, take away a few ghastly giveaways, I think the Oilers did a lot of things well. They played right with them. Less open point shots which has been my biggest peeve so far. When I first visited this site to join the community, being from Toronto (although always a Hab fan), I was asked what I thought of Pat Quinn. I said, expect entertaining hockey. I think the Oilers are giving us plenty of that.
by ajcrocks on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right now, Chorney is #3. Overall he’s not that noticeable, and really, that’s a good thing. He’s getting comfortable in the NHL. Not getting beat bad like Struds, Gilbert or Grebs. Keeping things simple. I like that. Very good for a rookie.
His underliers tell a different story. He’s not ready. Like the rest of the team, he’s getting some great puck luck.
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by Derek Zona on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Underliers? What are those? I think we’re seeing a lot of cases where young D should be kept in the A longer, Luke Schenn for one. And I would definitely like to see Chorney get more time in the A to develop. Absolutely. I like what I see. I think he’s filling his role well. Once our concussed D are back, for sure he’s gotta go back. Weeellllll… Gilbert is looking like he needs the AHL assignment right now way more. But my pros on Chorney were stated already. I think he’s ready-ish. I would like to see him more ready. But he’s playing clean. No penalties. Nothing costly. Oilers’ problems on D are the other 3. this rookie is already up on them in this department, and that’s a good thing (or bad from the other point of view as in what do we do about Grebs, Gilbert, Struds).
by ajcrocks on Oct 23, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The underliers are things like scoring chances against and shots attempted against. Right now they look awful for Chorney. Some of that can be attributed to his defensive partner but certainly not all of it. So far I’ve been pleasantly surprised by Chorney but he’s made a lot of mistakes. Even last night there were plenty of times when he looked a bit lost in the defensive zone. My impression of Chorney so far is that he’s not much different than Sturdwick or Staios when under pressure: he rips it up the boards or dumps it out of the zone. And he’s not physical. IMO, that’s one of the important things that make Gilbert and Grebeshkov good. Once they get control of the puck in the defensive zone, they’re often able to clear the puck while maintaining possession. Certainly Grebs hasn’t looked great the last couple of games but even in these games he’s had a couple of wonderful moments. The other thing that really distinguishes them is their ability to create offence at EV in the offensive zone. I haven’t seen much of that from Chorney as yet. Right now I’d put him at 6th of 6 on the defensive depth chart.
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 23, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too much positive from the other lines. Hopefully O’Sullivan will make better players out of whichever linemates Quinn decides to keep him with, if Quinn ever stops all the tinkering.
I think that eventually, Horcoff ends up between O’Sullivan and Pisani. Brule between Moreau and Stone. And Cogliano between Comrie and Stortini.
Nilsson deserves more looks though.
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by Derek Zona on Oct 23, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gilbert stinks.
Grebs is not even close to being the best D on the team this year
They are our ice time leaders…night in and night out. Maybe our coach is watching a different game
by SumOil on Oct 23, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until last night they were getting the tough matchups too
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by Derek Zona on Oct 23, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe our coach wants to be watching a different game, or maybe it’s a matter of it being early in the season and this team counts on those guys getting their act together. But right now, they stink!!!
by ajcrocks on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, grebs just defensively, gilbert at both ends
by ajcrocks on Oct 23, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and ‘coach is always right’ is a bad argument. You benefitted for many years from Quinn’s mis-read on Jason Smith. I like Quinn. But he’s definitely not always right.
by ajcrocks on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The real talent
Forget hockey . . . the real talent here is Benjamin Massey.
You’re a helluva writer.
by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Oct 23, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Lord Bob rules.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 23, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m pretty much completely awesome.
(Thanks for the kind words, guys.)
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 23, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Completely awesome, eh Benj….I wonder who thar David Staples fella is and how THAT pool is going…..anywhooser, Penner may be on his to his best year ever—-then trade him for f#$ sakes and stop paying for the best year he will ever have a la Kevin"I suck"Bieksa
by High Commander on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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