Ze plane! Ze plane!
by Derek Zona on Jun 17, 2009 8:03 PM MDT
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So we know that the owner is once again hunting Moby Dick. We know that Sheldon Souray and Lubomir Vishnovsky are being shopped. We now know the new coach thinks Ales Hemsky is a center, and he doesn't like him one bit. We know the general manager wants to ship out the Lilliputians and bring in a bunch of Gullivers and draft the best player available, but keeping in mind they need to get bigger. I suspect this off-season is going to like stepping into another world. A world where very few of us are going to be happy. As long as what's going to happen is probably close to unimaginable, I'm opening a post for everyone to give me their offseason dreams in the comments. Here's my wildest dreams:
Penner - Horcoff - Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Pavelski - Pisani
Cogliano - Gagner - Gaborik
Jacques - Brodziak - Stortini
Bouwmeester - Gilbert
Vishnovsky - Grebeshkov
Montador - Smid
Peckham
Legace
Labarbera
Trade Souray for Pavelski
Trade Staios, Pouliot and Moreau for picks
Send Nilsson to Florida for the Bouwmeester rights
Sign Bouwmeester, Gaborik, Montador, Legace, Labarbera
$54,958,000
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O'Sullivan - Gagner - Penner
Moreau - Madden - Pisani
Jacques - Brodziak - Stortini
Bouwmeester - Souray
Gilbert - Grebeshkov
Smid - Peckham
Khabibulin or Biron or Garon
DesLauriers
I have no idea if it fits in under the cap or not.
by JK on Jun 17, 2009 9:57 PM MDT reply actions
Penner (4.5) – Gagner (1.625) – Cogliano (1.33) = 7.455
Ward (1.25) – Madden (2) – Pisani (2.5) = 5.75
Pouliot (0.825) – Brodziak (0.85) – Stortini (0.7) = 2.375
SMac (0.537) and JFJ (0.525) = 1.06
Souray (5.4) – Gibert (4) = 9.4
Grebeshkov (3.25)- Bouwmeester (7.5) = 10.75
Smid (1) - Zazon/Odulya (2) = 3
Peckham (0.65) =0.65
Roli/Legace (2)
Drouin-Deslauriers (0.65) = 2.65
Total Cap Hit: 60.19. I know this is still too much, I’ll try and work on it in the afternoon to get it down (but the only thing I can think of, right now, is trade Penner and replace him with Potunley: saving us 3.5 million, but that is not happening).
Deletions: Visnovsky and Nilsson (plus 1st round 2010) for Heatley, Moreau for picks, Staois for picks, and Brule as a cap causality
Why can’t we have both Heatley and Bouwmeester, and a checking line? Why?
by B.C.B. on Jun 18, 2009 8:55 AM MDT reply actions
by B.C.B. on Jun 18, 2009 9:01 AM MDT reply actions
BCB: I'd hope to get JBo cheaper by extending the term.
I'd like the Oilers to be about 3-4 million under the cap. Cap space is going to be at a premium next summer.
by Sean on Jun 18, 2009 9:18 AM MDT reply actions
I think it depends on the progression of your team. Pisani is UFA, so hopefully you save a million there on him resigning at a better number or you get a replacement for him.
If one of Wilhorntry or Erixon *crosses fingers* progresses, you try and move Gilbert or Vishnovsky.
If Harski, Eberle, Glennie *crosses fingers* progresses, you try and move Penner after his pending 25-30 goal season or O'Sullivan.
If Nash or Vande Velde progreses, you move Brodziak or Pavelski.
BCB: I'd hope to get JBo cheaper by extending the term
11 years, $60 million
$9,000,000
$9,000,000
$9,000,000
$9,000,000
$7,000,000
$6,000,000
$4,000,000
$3,000,000
$2,000,000
$1,000,000
$1,000,000
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 18, 2009 9:38 AM MDT reply actions
Cogliano- Gagner- Armstrong
Kotalik - Halpern- Pisani
Jacques- Betts- Stortini
Lefebvre, Potulny
Grebeshkov- Gilbert
Visnovsky- Souray
Smid- Mara
Popovic
Ellis, Anderson
About $53 Million
Moreau for Ellis
Pouliot for Halpern
O’Sullivan, Brodziak+ for Armstorng+
Staios for a pick
Penner too
by Mr DeBakey on Jun 18, 2009 12:04 PM MDT reply actions
Vish + Moreau + Petry + 2nd to DAL for #8 overall.
#8 + #10 + Chorney to TBL for Hedman
Penner + Nilsson to FLA for Horton.
Cogliano + Pouliot to NYI for 2010 1st.
Sign Kotalik. Sign Roli.
Sign Malhotra UFA.
Sign Gaborik UFA.
Sign Gill UFA.
Sign LaBarbra UFA
Pick 1-3 next year.
KOTA HORC HEMS
GABO GAGN HORT
OSUL MALH PISA
JACQ BROD STOR
GREB SOUR
GILL GILB
SMID HEDM
ROLI
LABA
<$56M
by spOILer on Jun 18, 2009 12:54 PM MDT reply actions
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 18, 2009 2:05 PM MDT reply actions
Do you mean you two think that we might get a checking line like this:
Ward – Madden – Pisani
????
Cause I think it will only happen on Fantasy Island
by B.C.B. on Jun 18, 2009 4:50 PM MDT reply actions
No, I think the checking line should be:
O'Sullivan - Pavelski - Pisani
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 18, 2009 5:42 PM MDT reply actions
by B.C.B. on Jun 19, 2009 9:52 AM MDT reply actions
I already shed 13 million in salary to make this work. More will be shed in the offseason.
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 19, 2009 11:18 AM MDT reply actions
Send Souray, Nilsson & Chorney out to San Jose for Maleau
Give the Rangers Penner and a pick for Callaghan
Send Captain Ethan out to the desert for Zbynek Michalek
Staios and Pou out for picks
Sign Havlat for a cap-hit of 5.5m
Sign Bou for a cap hit of 6.5m (long term)
Grab Labarbera for 1m and Nittymaki for 1m
Then we stir, season and bake for half a year:
Havlat-Marleau-Hemmer
Cogs-Gags-Sully
Callaghan-Horcs-Pies
JFJ-Brodz-Zach
Bou-Gilby
Grebs-Vish
Smid-Michalek
Labarbera - Nittymaki
all for the princely sum of 56.3mil.
3 lines of scoring, 1 line of crash n bang. Perfect
With no 13F.
Ah, back to the drawingboard :-(
by Oiler Mag on Jun 19, 2009 4:28 PM MDT reply actions
Heatley – Horcoff – Hemsky
O'Sully – Gagner – Cogliano
Ward – Madden – Pisani
Pouliot – Brodziak – Stortini
SMac and JFJ
Souray – Gibert
Grebeshkov - Bouwmeester
Smid - Zazon/Odulya
Peckham
Roli/Legace
Drouin-Deslauriers
If we use coach's numbers for Bouwmeester then the cap hit is 57.39 M. So Tambo just has to play hard ball with Brodziak and Smid to get them to accept the 10% raise for one year. Play hard ball with Madden, Zazon/Odulya, and Legace and save 1 M between all three players to get under the cap (make sure Legace and Madden are on one year deals, and the Ward is on a short one as well).
by B.C.B. on Jun 19, 2009 6:11 PM MDT reply actions
Penner - Horcoff - Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Pavelski - Pisani
Cogliano - Gagner - Gaborik
Bouwmeester - Gilbert
Vishnovsky - Grebeshkov
It's hard to imagine a top 13 much softer than that. We'd get run out of all 30 NHL arenas, including our own.
by Bruce on Jun 20, 2009 5:37 PM MDT reply actions
Last time the Oilers traded down at the draft
Well, you all know that painful story...
How about the 10th & Brule for
the 26th, the 31st & Trent Hunter?
by Mr DeBakey on Jun 21, 2009 3:25 PM MDT reply actions
the 26th, the 31st & Trent Hunter?
Still my heart Mr. Db. That guy is a perfect fit for this (or any) team.
I'd do that before the Islanders had a chance to back out.
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 21, 2009 3:32 PM MDT reply actions
I think Madden can be had for the right numbers, mostly because of his age. Which is the same reason I wouldn't want him (altho' I do like him as a player).
That being said, it IS most likely he will sign in NJD, which yes, does make it somewhat fantasy island. Not to mention your 1 yr offer. ;o) (I think he will do better)
I'm not sure of the attraction of Ward, nor do I know if he can play the off-wing, and if his role is more defensive, would you want him playing the off-wing (where the advantages tend to be offensive)?
Penguins 3rd line, BTW, starts with a $4M centre, and I don't really look at the lines and the spending that way. Heck, Madden made $3M/yr on his past contract. Nor do Moreau and Pisani's contracts upset me as much as most.
I prefer a team that can ice fairly balanced scoring over the 3 lines, with the second line in general, reserved for younger offensive players who are learning the other side of the puck, with the 3rd in general, set for the experienced, defensively responsible type players who are still able to score... in fact probably out-score better than the 2nd line.
Bruce...
Yeah, I agree, coach's line-up is even more waterbuggish. As much as he is our best defenseman, I'd still trade Lubo every day before Souray, because to me, Lubo's assets are more closely replicated by Gilbert and Grebs than Souray's.
Nor would JBo make up for the loss of Souray's "piss-cutterness". To me, anyhoo.
by spOILer on Jun 22, 2009 5:16 PM MDT reply actions
False. They started with a 900,000 center.
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 22, 2009 5:28 PM MDT reply actions
Agreed. I came up with a better one:
Penner - Horcoff - Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner - Armstrong
Ott - Hanzal - Pisani
Jacques - Brodziak - Stortini
Pouliot
Bouwmeester - Gilbert
Grebeshkov - Visnovsky
Montador - Smid
Peckham
Legace
Labarbera
$53,080,000
by Coach pb9617 on Jun 22, 2009 5:31 PM MDT reply actions
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