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Ulf Dahlen is one of the few Europeans to ever gain much traction in NHL coaching or management. Alpo Suhonen and Ivan Hlinka both had one year in the job in 2000-01 (Suhonen resigned after the season, Hlinka was fired four games into 2001-02). They were the first European head coaches at the NHL level since Johnny Gottselig back in the mid 1940's.

Dahlen spent a few years as an assistant coach to the Swedish National Team before he was hired as a European scout by the Dallas Stars (the team he played his final NHL season with). He served in that capacity for a single season, joining Dave Tippett's staff in 2006-07. He spent two seasons behind the Stars bench before heading back to Sweden to be the head coach of the Frolunda Indians, guiding them to a third-place finish in the Elitserien (25-20-10 - 10 being ties, not OT losses). My Swedish is a little bit nonexistent (slutspel=playoffs, yes?), but from their official website it looks like they've cleared the first round, beating Lulea (current home of Linus Omark) in five games and are now tied at one game a piece with HV 71 in the second round.

This would seem to be the glass ceiling of the NHL; there have been a handful of European assistants (Ulf Samuellson serves on the staff in Phoenix, as an example) but very few head coaches. It may be that the level of coaching talent is lower over there; based on Dave King's book it would seem that line-matching is still a foreign concept to most. On the other hand, it's hard to believe that none of the more successful European coaches could accomplish anything in the NHL.

Leaving aside coaching, the likeliest candidate to have serious success in the NHL would seem to be Jarmo Kekalainen. Kekalainen spent four years as the General Manager of IFK Helsinki and the chief European scout for the Ottawa Senators, subsequently joining the Senators full-time in 1999 as Director of Player Personnel. He spent three years in that position before joining the St. Louis Blues as assistant G.M and Director of Amateur Scouting. Here's a list of players the Senators pulled from Europe during his time there who went on to play in the NHL:

Marian Hossa - 12th overall, 1997
Jakub Klepis - 16th overall, 2002
Anton Volchenkov - 21st overall, 2000
Martin Havlat - 26th overall, 1999
Alexei Kaigorodov - 47th overall, 2002
Jani Hurme - 58th overall, 1997
Antti-Jussi Niemi - 81st overall, 1996
Petr Schastlivy - 101st overall, 1998
Magnus Arvedson - 119th overall, 1997
Christoph Schubert - 127th overall, 2001
Andreas Dackell - 136th overall, 1996
Martin Prusek - 164th overall, 1999
Ivan Ciernik - 216th overall, 1996
Karel Rachunek - 229th overall, 1997
Sami Salo - 239th overall, 1996
Toni Dahlman - 286th overall, 2001

Kekalainen's worst bust in Ottawa was probably Klepis, who was selected one pick after Jussi Niinimaki. No player drafted higher than 60th overall out of Europe during Kekalainen's tenure ever failed to make the NHL, and even in the late rounds more players made it than missed as seen on the list above. As much as I liked the Steve Tambellini hiring (outside the organization, nice looking resume), I would have been ecstatic to see Kekalainen as the Oilers' GM. Hopefully he'll get a chance, somewhere.

Going back to Dahlen, he played four seasons for the Minnesota North Stars and was on the team that relocated to Dallas for the 1993-94 season. It's good to see a team in Minnesota again, although it's less good to see that they aren't that far behind the Oilers. Counting today's game, the Oilers will play Minnesota twice before the season ends, and you have to think that the Wild have targetted the Oilers as their best chance at a playoff spot - especially given the Oilers' difficulty with them in recent years.

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That is an impressive track record in Ottawa but, after a quick glance at the Blues draft record from 2003-2008, his time in St. Louis doesn't seem nearly as good. I think Roman Polak is the only European drafted outside of the first round to make an NHL appearance. It's still early enough that many more might follow, but I don't think that you can point to this guy's draft record and say that he's screaming for a job as GM somewhere (espeically given the success of his team since his arrival in St. Louis).

by Scott on Mar 22, 2009 12:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Kekalainen actually runs the entire draft in St.Louis, and given that Davidson/Pleau seem to be pulling the strings in St. Louis I'd guess that's his main area of responsibility.

02-04 doesn't look great, but in fairness both '02 and '04 were wak drafts, and St. Louis hasn't really had a ton of decent picks to work with. Over that span, David Backes was a nice selection, as was Lee Stempniak, both in '03. St. Louis has some nice prospects to work with from '05 on, but it's a bit early to get a good read on them.

by Jonathan Willis on Mar 22, 2009 12:07 PM MDT reply actions  

His St. Louis draft record is exceptional. Seriously.

by Lowetide on Mar 22, 2009 7:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Why do you think his St. Louis drafts are so good LT?

2002 - No one of real significance so far. 0/2 in the 2nd round.

2003 - Backes and Stempniak are both good players but he whiffed in the first round in a deep draft. 0/1 in the 1st round, 1/1 in the second round. Less of a haul than most in 2003 but also had an unfavourable drafting position.

2004 - Roman Polak and a whole lot of whiff. Drafting a goalie in the first round = -10 points. 0/1 in the first round, 0/1 in the second round unless they can get Soderberg actually comes over.

2005 - Oshie is looking very good and it's still early to judge Scott Jackson either way. Certainly 1/1 in the first round and the rest is up in the air.

2006 - Still early to judge but I'm unconvinced that Johnson will be the best of the guys that went in the top five. I think Toews is looking pretty good. Always hard to judge a guy who goes first overall. Berglund is a clear hit.

2007, 2008 - David Perron with more on the way. Pietrangelo looks good, but it's going to be difficult to judge for a few years yet given he was 4th overall in a pretty strong D cluster.

Overall, I'd say 2002 and 2004 were bad, 2003 was average, 2005 and on is early to judge though 2006 and 2007 look strong early. Maybe I have standards that are too high or I'm overvaluing the earlier drafts for which we have a clearer picture but I'm not convinced this is exceptional.

by Scott on Mar 22, 2009 9:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Drafting a goalie in the first round = -10 points.

Haha, I agree. And the guy they took (Schwarz) has been TERRIBLE ever since. He's split time between the ECHL and some Czech league this year.

by hellohockeyfans on Mar 23, 2009 11:14 AM MDT reply actions  

I remember the Schwarz selection - IIRC, all the analysts like it. Kevin Lowe was lambasted for allowing his staff to take Dubnyk ahead of Schwarz.

Of course, there's a good possibility that the Dubnyk selection is going to turn out to be only marginally better.

by Jonathan Willis on Mar 23, 2009 11:18 AM MDT reply actions  

Also, when evaluating Kekalainen's St. Louis record, I think it's really important to remember the relative quality of the '02 and '04 drafts. They were not exactly the greatest examples of future NHL talent ever.

by Jonathan Willis on Mar 23, 2009 11:19 AM MDT reply actions  

I understand the drafts weren't of particularly good quality, but one Roman Polak in two draft years is still pretty poor.

The Schwarz selection is bad just by virtue of being a goalie I think. Drafting goalies in the first round is asking for trouble.

by Scott on Mar 23, 2009 1:02 PM MDT reply actions  

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