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Faceoff Numbers: Things Worth Shouting From Rooftops

So, yesterday, I made a point of mentioning some of the useful/cutting edge stuff that Vic Ferrari's doing over at Irreverent Oiler Fans. Today, he topped all of it, providing a bunch of data about where players were taking faceoffs, data that I've been wondering about for a long time. He broke down where draws occured, awarding a +1 for a defensive end draw, and a -1 for an offensive end draw. On his blog he looks at how this affected defensemen, and gave us this list:

Greene: -14
Roy: -9
Souray: 11
Rourke: 15
Grebeshkov: 17
Tarnstrom: 33
Pitkanen: 40
Gilbert: 50
Smid: 56
Staios: 117

See anything interesting there? Because I do. Ferrari points out that Matt Greene (allegedly a shutdown defender) does badly by this metric, although he neglects to point out that with all that offensive zone start-time Greene was getting, he sure wasn't adding much in the way of offense, so he was depriving a player who could actually help score a goal of ice-time on the right side of the redline. He also points to the ridiculous number of draws Staios took- if there were any question about which of that group MacTavish/Huddy trust in their own end, it should be gone. And those who ripped on Staios this season should take a look at that number.

Beyond that, I think these numbers show some nice things about Smid and especially Gilbert going forward, and help temper the excitement about Denis Grebeshkov (at least a little bit).

For some reason, though, Ferrari didn't do a similar chart up for forwards. Let me give some highlights in this area now, from the data he provided a link to on his website:

Nilsson: -24
Gagner: -22
Penner: -19
Glencross: -18
Cogliano: -11
Hemsky: -11
Stortini: 11
Brodziak: 21
Torres: 35
Horcoff: 43
Pisani: 45
Reasoner: 141
Stoll: 181

What do we notice? For starters, the kids, Penner, Hemsky and Glencross were put into offensive situations, and for the most part succeeded. Beyond that, the two centres who recieved a ton of criticism this year, were "human sacrifices" (I can't remember who said it first, but it was a good line) to keep the kids from getting torched.

Stoll and Reasoner's numbers stand out for two reasons; the first being that their numbers this year (and this includes errors, Mr. Staples) were influenced in a huge way by the position they were placed in, a position to fail. The second thing is that somebody has to take all those draws this year; Horcoff's going to be spread awfully thin, and I think one of the kids (probably Brodziak, maybe Pouliot) is going to get tossed into this position and just killed.

It might not be a bad idea, from a development standpoint, to pick up a Chris Gratton or Brian Smolinski, to keep kids with relatively fragile confidence from having it destroyed. I know I've been against a Smolinski signing previously, based on his footspeed, but that shouldn't be a huge problem if he's the guy always deployed in the defensive end.

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I don't disagree with your assessment, but if management was interested in protecting the fragile Brodziak-Pouliot psyche they would've resigned Reasoner. The plan is pretty clearly to throw them into the ocean and hope one of them isn't torn apart by sharks.

by quain on Aug 17, 2008 9:24 AM MDT reply actions  

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Yeah, I agree that is this season's gamble, and it's probably not a bad one to take, especially if you believe that the three years after this season are more important than immediate results.

Personally, I think that Pouliot is the obvious choice here, with good wingers on his sides, and being spelled quite a bit by the Horcoff line, or Horcoff individually.

Brodziak is Plan B and the fire under Pouliot's ass, all at once.

by Vic Ferrari on Aug 17, 2008 2:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Personally, I think that Pouliot is the obvious choice here, with good wingers on his sides, and being spelled quite a bit by the Horcoff line, or Horcoff individually.

Brodziak is Plan B and the fire under Pouliot's ass, all at once.


But does MacTavish feel that way? I imagine that he gives Pouliot second shot at the third line job; only if Brodziak struggles.

by Jonathan Willis on Aug 17, 2008 3:43 PM MDT reply actions  

And that is why Steve Staios is my freaking hero.

by Kyle on Aug 20, 2008 7:51 PM MDT reply actions  

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