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Zack Stortini


I attended that game. I remember watching as Stortini came in on Krajicek, and thinking that Krajicek needed to get his head up, and then it was too late, as Stortini absolutely detroyed him. Big cheer from the crowd for his first NHL goal, too. Of course, the Oilers also lost the game, so it wasn't all good.

The three-year, 2.1-million dollar contract is a nice fit for a 4th line player, a contract with very little downside that could turn out very nice, especially if Stortini turns into a player capable of playing third line minutes. Even if Stortini can just keep doing what he did this past season, it will be a good contract.

A few posts below, I suggested that the following would be a reasonable expectation for Huggy Bear:

Some growth in fighting ability. Aside from Celine Dion Phaneuf, Stortini doesn't really intimidate, and the occasional decision in his favour might help that out. Aside from that, if Stortini can remain low-event against slightly better opponents, it will have been a successful season for him.

This remains true. I'm not really sure how sustainable Stortini's performance of last season was (a point made over at Lowetide's site) . While his goals differential and GAON/60 were both really nice, his Corsi number was among the worst on the team, indicating far more shots against than for. While I'm not a big believer in Corsi numbers (thanks in large part to the comments summarized here questioning the value of using shot count as an indicator of game success), it is something that is a little worrying.

Another worrying thing is Stortini's ability (or lack thereof) to draw penalties. Commenter Spoiler made several nice points in the post below, including this one:

I think Stortini's ability is as an agitator who can fight, not as an enforcer. Any analysis of him should also include penalties drawn.

Unfortunately, Stortini actually takes more penalties than he draws. It isn't all bad; watching the games, a 5-minute major to Stortini and say, Sarich or Regehr, is a big advantage to Edmonton, while it shows up as an even on the Desjardins chart. Still, I question whether Stortini fits in the role (yet, at least) as a Ruutu or Ott. NHL.com shows Stortini as finishing 3rd on the Oilers in minor penalties taken (behind the two guys who got thrown to the wolves), something which really should be addressed.

RTSS tells us that Stortini finished second on the Oilers in hits, and despite what some fans say (he's too slow to hit), to my eye he's actually a very good, clean hitter. He adds both size and sandpaper to the lineup, and he is still very young (23 next season).

Moving forward, I think he's Kelly Buchberger, albeit with a potentially stronger record as a fighter (yes, he'll get better at it as he ages a little bit). Buchberger played in over 1000 NHL games, and brought lots of value to the table in a lot of different ways. I think Stortini could very well do the same.

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Nice pass by Hedja! Sigh!

by rickibear on Jul 15, 2008 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice pass by Hedja! Sigh!

I was thinking the same thing ;)

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 15, 2008 8:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, Stortini actually takes more penalties than he draws. It isn't all bad; watching the games, a 5-minute major to Stortini and say, Sarich or Regehr, is a big advantage to Edmonton, while it shows up as an even on the Desjardins chart.

I'm certain fights don't show up on Desjardins, and I'm pretty sure coincidental minors don't either. I think he just counts the times a player puts his team down a man.

Still, I question whether Stortini fits in the role (yet, at least) as a Ruutu or Ott. NHL.com shows Stortini as finishing 3rd on the Oilers in minor penalties taken (behind the two guys who got thrown to the wolves), something which really should be addressed.

I commented several times throughout the year at how disciplined Zack was at staying out of the box; in 23 fights he never once took an extra penalty. The one time he blew his lid was after Nick Boynton head-butted him with 30 seconds left in a 5-2 Oiler win, and after the zebra missed that blatant infraction Zack took a double minor with my blessing. :) But there were very few foolish penalties in general, Zack's strongest attribute might be his discipline.

Interesting to compare 46 with other PiM leaders/tough guys around the league (forwards only):

Player - Taken/Drawn = Diff.
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Neil 40/18 = -22
Carcillo 32/22 = -10
J.Ruutu 31/21 = -10
Clarkson 30/29 = -1
Hartnell 26/30 = +4
Ivanans 26/7 = -19
Fedoruk 21/10 = -11
Boll 21/21 = even
Burrows 19/39 = +20
Laraque 19/11 = -8
Ott 18/29 = +11
Orr 18/10 = -8
Voros 18/11 = -7
A.Downey 17/4 = -13
Stortini 17/16 = -1
Avery 16/31 = +15
Brashear 16/4 = -12
Burish 14/21 = +7
Parros 13/6 = -7
Shelley 13/3 = -10
Laperriere 12/11 = -1
Cowan 12/9 = -3
Cote 12/7 = -5
Lapointe 12/5 = -7
Boulton 12/10 = -2
Hollweg 11/7 = -4
Godard 11/5 = -6

Turns out Zack is somewhere in between the two examples you choose. (Ott is gold as an agitator, but he's been at it for a few years). The list includes the top 20 PiM forwards in the league plus a few other names that jumped out at me. You can see there's a few, like Ott, Avery and Burrows, who excel at drawing more penalties than they take. But those guys are by far in the minority (thank goodness, cuz they're scumbags); only 5 of the 27 listed are "plus players". In that context Stortini's -1 doesn't look bad at all.

by Bruce on Jul 16, 2008 12:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice pass by Hedja! Sigh!\

If we had Hedja ... **** **** **** nevermind.

I like the Bucky to Stortini comparison. Stortini at that price should provide good value.

by Sean on Jul 16, 2008 9:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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