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The Glaring Weakness Almost Nobody's Talking About


The Oilers defense corps currently looks something like this:

LD: Grebeshkov, Souray, Smid, Roy
RD: Gilbert, Visnovsky, Staios

We can toss in some of the kids on whatever side (Hrabal, Peckham, Chorney) but the odds are really good that none of them are even-strength difference makers in their rookie seasons- and that's where the Oilers biggest team weakness lies. Which pairing of defenders would you trust to play against the Jarome Iginlas of the world?

Looking at the Quality of Competition numbers for last season, it really appears that MacTavish/Huddy went for a defence-by-committee approach. Staios, Souray and Gilbert were the coaches first options against tough minutes. Pitkanen, Smid and finally Grebeshkov each played against opponents of descending toughness. Matt Greene was sheltered, as were whichever injury-callups who were playing that night. What were the results?

Pitkanen broke even, Grebeshkov came out ahead, and Gilbert was just under even in terms of even strength scoring. Staios, Souray and Smid were all buried in goal differential (although, in fairness to Souray it wasn't so much that his GAON/60 was bad as it was that his GFON/60 was atrocious). Matt Greene evidently can't play hockey. Also, for those of you wondering about Visnovsky, last year he was buried in a second-pairing role (although historically he hasn't been bad in 2nd-pairing assignements).

So, who gets which assignments? Gilbert is the one player who seems to be destined for top-pairing duty at even strength. Beyond that, Staios needs a reduction in terms of responsibilities, as does Smid, while Grebeshkov can be bumped up the chart. Basically, I'd tier the defenders in this order:

1st Pairing: Gilbert
2nd Pairing: Staios, Souray, Visnovsky, Grebeshkov
3rd Pairing: Smid, Roy

with the caveat that these are players I expect to have a reasonable chance of breaking even, not excelling, in their roles.

Now, barring a Souray trade, a 1st pairing even-strength defender is frankly not a possibility. Who's left on the free agent market that can play tough opposition? Here's a brief list, cannibalized from the one Mirtle put up the other day:

M. Malik, J. Smith, J. Modry, A. Zhitnik, M. Weaver

That doesn't show how bad it is, really. The numbers for the Philly guys (Smith, Modry) are not good, and show neither as capable of handling tough minutes, even if some allowance is made for Smith's injury. Zhitnik was well below even in medium-strength minutes in Atlanta, and even if we allow him some slack because of how awful his team was that doesn't put him out there as a lead candidate for tough minutes. Mike Weaver should find a home somewhere, he excelled with 3rd-pairing minutes, but he isn't a viable option for top-pairing work. In point of fact, there's only one viable option for top-pairing work.

A man described as "soft for a big man" and called "high-strung" after a public squabble with Rangers head coach Tom Renney (by the way, the squabble was about Renney's tendency to healthy-scratch Malik, and Malik was almost certainly in the right). He played the toughest minutes on the Rangers last season, and posted the best goal differential of any defender on the team. He also happens to play left defense. I've praised Malik previously, and in my opinion he would be a perfect (and cheap) fit. Then the Oilers could run the following pairs at even strength:

Malik - Gilbert
Grebeshkov - Staios
Souray - Visnovsky
Smid

Feel free to trade Souray and pop Smid into the top-six if you would like ;). I am not at all concerned about having Smid 7th on the list; the 7th defensmena always ends up seeing a substantial number of games (40+). Otherwise, this team is running a group with a high-water mark of just breaking even.

Update: Robin Brownlee over at OilersNation reports that the Oilers have had preliminary discussions with Jason Smith.

Update II: TSN reports that Smith has signed a two-year, 5.2-million dollar contract with the Ottawa Senators. This is a great addition for an Ottawa team that desperately needs the leadership and nastiness that Smith can provide.

Update III: Regular Oilersphere commenter Misfit has pointed out below that a thread was started on this same subject yesterday at HFBoards by the aforementioned Misfit. Looking through the comments however, there really doesn't seem to be much concern about this team's ability to handle tough opposition.

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I completely agree with the assessment that Marek Malik is the best choice. I think the next two best choices are Dennis Seidenberg or Bret Hedican, but they aren't close to the same value as Malik by the numbers. The really smart thing to do is go after Christian Ehrhoff with an offer sheet. He has a nice track record at EV and he could be expected to contribute for a long period of time. More a long term fix of the problem than the short-term fix offered by any of the RFAs. If they could trade some combination of "extras with potential" and prospects to SJ for him that would be nice. SJ just traded away Ty Wishart, so they could be quite interested in Taylor Chorney. Something like Chorney plus two of Pouliot, Schremp, Potulny, Brodziak, Jacques or Brule.

by Scott on Jul 8, 2008 9:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the next two best choices are Dennis Seidenberg or Bret Hedican, but they aren't close to the same value as Malik by the numbers.


Seidenberg signed with Carolina yesterday, and Hedican told the Hurricanes he was going to sign with a west coast team; otherwise they certainly would have been worth consideration.

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 8, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think its likely that the Oil leave the station without somebody proven in that #2 hole. I think that could be forgiven if they sign a depth C to help the young centers if they get in too deep.

I can live with a question mark in one of those two slots, just not both.

by NormanMendoza on Jul 8, 2008 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Malik is a perfect moneypuck pick, but I'm not sold on his character and we know how Lowe and MacT feel about character.... and speed for that matter.

by Scott on Jul 8, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My answer is to let it slide for a season and sign JBo.... and then I wake up.

by Scott on Jul 8, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh... just realized two of us are posting as 'scott'. That should be nice and confusing.

by Scott on Jul 8, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Started this 9 a.m.

Nice analysis Johnathan. This problem has been screaming at us since the start of the year.

Malik, Hedican, and A. Ward have been my choices to drop the GA/60 for the D Corp since January.

Ward is long signed.

Hedican's wife use to train at the Royal Glenora. You would think she has some freinds in Edmonton.

My only concern is creating D pairings with a minimum 140 Hits on the RTSS side while reducing the EV count to an average of 2.7GA/60.

Gilbert .5 Hits/gm
Vishnovsky .75 Hits/gm
Staios 1.0 Hits/gm
Grebs 1.0 Hits/gm
Souray 1.25 Hits/gm
Smid 1.5 Hits/gm

Malik 1.0 Hits/gm
Hedican 1.0 Hits/gm

by rickibear on Jul 8, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're definately sharing in our concerns about the defence. So much in fact, that I've got to wonder if this was posted before or after I started an almost identical thread on HF asking who is going to get the big matchups, and whether or not they are going to be able to handle them.

by misfit on Jul 8, 2008 5:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're definately sharing in our concerns about the defence. So much in fact, that I've got to wonder if this was posted before or after I started an almost identical thread on HF asking who is going to get the big matchups, and whether or not they are going to be able to handle them.

For those interested, I believe the thread that misfit is referring to is here:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=533617

And the time stamp on it is before my post, so you'll just have to take me at my word when I say that I hadn't seen it until the last comment made me go look for it, or I would have given credit to its creator.

On the other hand, I have been sounding this particular alarm for a while now:

http://coppernblue.blogspot.com/2008/06/where-are-we-going.html

http://coppernblue.blogspot.com/2008/06/ufa-option-marek-malik.html

and especially:

http://coppernblue.blogspot.com/2008/06/case-for-another-defenseman.html

which is basically a longer version of this analysis here, with the difference being that we now have a better idea of what our defense pairings will look like.

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 8, 2008 5:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do you want defensive pairings that receive a lot of credit for hits from RTSS?

by Scott on Jul 9, 2008 12:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's somewhat apparent that our blueline is a little short on physicality; RTSS is a flawed measure, but it's one of the few we have.

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 9, 2008 5:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For the record, I wasn't implying you plagerized it or anything, just that we are of like mind in this regard.

by misfit on Jul 9, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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TOI/G:

Horcoff (19:25)

Gilbert (22:10)

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Horcoff (14:29)

Grebeshkov (17:16)

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Visnovsky (32)

Goals:

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Visnovsky (10)

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