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MacT and the Goalies


The other day, David Staples had a post up on his weblog based on the NHL advertising theme "Is This the Year?". One of the things that he wrote I took as a bit of a personal challenge:

"Is this the year one of the prominent Oilers bloggers says even one word of criticism about MacT?"

That question is found amidst a group of impossibilities (Mc79hockey praising Lowe to high heaven, Lowetide abandoning baseball references), so I'm thinking that Mr. Staples figured it was pretty unlikely.

He has good reason for that thought. Craig MacTavish is a very good coach. Not bad, not run-of-the-mill, not average, but very good. He has a beautiful grasp of development, for high- and low-skill players alike, both up front and on the back-end. He can use one-dimensional players in roles that maximize their effectiveness (Comrie, Bergeron, etc.). It isn't a coincidence that many players experience good years in Edmonton, and drop off after their departure. MacTavish is one of the best at utilizing the tools at his disposal.

I've decided to target an area of MacTavish's that I've always seen as lacking; how he handles his goaltenders. Here is who he's had, since his installment as head coach in 2000-01:

2000-01: Salo, Gage, Roussel
2001-02: Salo, Markkanen, Conklin
2002-03: Salo, Markkanen
2003-04: Salo, Conklin, Markkanen, Valiquette
2005-06: Markkanen, Morrison, Roloson, Conklin
2006-07: Roloson, Markkanen
2007-08: Garon, Roloson

Now, I'll give him a mercy pass on 2000-01, because despite the fact that there are three names up there, only one was a real goalie (although if you ask me this in context with Todd Bertuzzi, I'll blame Bert for destroying Roussel's career).

For the two seasons after that, MacTavish ran Salo out 65+ games per year. This was a reasonable workload to expect Salo to handle, but in both cases, Salo might well have performed better with someone challenging him. In 2001-02, Salo had a 2.22 GAA and a .913 SV% - numbers which look very good, until you realize that the Oilers allowed the second fewest goals in the league due to an incredibly stingy defensive system (known in places outside of Edmonton as "the trap"). Salo posted inferior numbers to his backup, Jussi Markkanen, who had a 1.84 GAA and .929 SV% in an admittedly small sample size (14 games). It's not a damning indictment, but I think it's reasonable to say that Markkanen could have been used more effectively.

In 2002-03, Salo posted a 2.71 GAA and .899SV%; numbers inferior, yet again, to Markkanen's (2.59 GAA, .904SV%). These statistics put Salo near the very bottom of goaltneders in the NHL; only 1A goalies Boucher, Potvin, and Osgood would post worse save percentages and none of them got over 50 games. While Markkanen's numbers were only slightly better, he only saw 22 games, and one wonders if the team wouldn't have been better served by risking Salo's seemingly-fragile psyche and playing Markkanen in 10 games more.

In 2003-04, Salo's collapse continued. His 2.56 GAA and .897SV% again put him at the bottom of the league (among starters, only Mike Dunham's .896% was worse). Salo's backup, Ty Conklin had a similar 2.42GAA but a vastly superior .912SV%; despite this, Salo got 41 starts to Conklin's 25. Lowe finally made a move, sending Salo to Colorado for Tom Gilbert, and acquiring Jussi Markkanen (along with Petr Nedved, for some suspects and 2nd and 3rd round draft picks) in a deadline steal. Conklin was the starter the rest of the way, and the Oilers were eliminated in the final game of the season. While much of the blame must go to Lowe, MacTavish stuck with Salo for three seasons while his backups outperformed him, and deserves criticism for it.

2005-06 was a brutal year for goalies. Conkkanen was christened starter before training camp opened, with the obvious plan of providing adequate goaltending through the tandem of Conklin and Markkanen. By January of 2006, the injured Conklin had just 6 starts, Markkanen had 24 and Michael Morrison had 8. After January, Morrison had 7 starts and Conklin and Markkanen each had 8. Roloson was acquired in March and started 19 games, with only 1 start going to anyone else (Conklin). It is very, very hard to put any blame on MacTavish here. He alternated freely, looking for the hot hand. Conklin was injured, Markkanen's confidence grew increasingly shaky with each start, and Morrison had a future date with the ECHL. When Roloson arrived (and had a very shaky start) MacTavish abandoned both halves of Conkkanen, throwing Roloson out night after night, and got lucky when Roloson responded just in time for a playoff run.

In 2006-07, MacTavish gave Roli 68 games and Markkanen 22; Roloson was the clearly superior goalie and MacTavish came close to running him into the ground with that workload on an awful, awful team. Roloson put up a .909SV%; heroic, given the circumstances.

Last season, MacTavish started Roloson 23 times before January; he started Garon 17 times. After January, Garon starter all but 6 games until he was injured; Roloson polished off the year. Garon's numbers were clearly superior, and I think a casecan be made that MacTavish stuck with Roli a reasonable amount of time, gave Garon and increased workload as the disparity in play between the two became more evident, and all-in-all acted in a fair and intelligent manner with both of them.

Apparently, I can't argue with Staples; I'm not criticizing MacTavish. His handling of Salo was not ideal, even downright poor, but he has learned since then. He juggled with inferior goalies in 2005-06, he gave Roloson as much as he could handle when he was clearly superior, and he switched from starting Roloson to Garon in good time in 2007-08. Towards the end, he rode Garon hard, but if Garon was to enter 2008-09 as the starter, it was imperative to see what kind of constant workload he could handle (not a heavy one as it turns out).

I expect to see around 55-60 starts for Garon, with 20-odd going to Roloson/Deslauriers, depending on how soon the 3-man rotation is resolved. Regardless, based on what I've just reviewed, I expect MacTavish will continue to make intelligent choices with his goaltenders.

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"I expect MacTavish will continue to make intelligent choices with his goaltenders."

Like waiting a month too late to name Garon the #1 and then when he finally comes out and announces "Garon is our #1" he goes and plays Roli 3 out of the next 4?

Like pulling Jussi after the 1st shot of the game that was tipped 3 feet in front of Juice that no goalie would have saved went in?

Like pulling Conks after one of his best games of the year for a cold MO in the shootout? Great confidence builder, Mac.

He ran his prized horse into the ground in 05/06 and he didn't have the coaching insight to give Salo's backups more playing time in the past.

Of course Mac didn't have the best tools to work with in the past but goaltending is all confidence and when I see Mac pull Conks in a confidence building game for MO in the shootout I question if MacT doesn't know something so fundamental that every fan would know. Your starting goalies confidence is worth a lot more than 1 extra point in the shootout.

by Traktor on Jul 13, 2008 12:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Like pulling Conks after one of his best games of the year for a cold MO in the shootout? Great confidence builder, Mac.

I remember watching that game and wondering what the fuck MacT was getting at there, because it was a 3-3 game and Conklin had been great. Conklin slammed down his mask and stormed off to the dressing room, and I was totally behind him, because that was a dumbass move on MacT's part.

Oh, and we lost the shootout. 3-1, I think.

by Doogie2K on Jul 13, 2008 1:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Like waiting a month too late to name Garon the #1 and then when he finally comes out and announces "Garon is our #1" he goes and plays Roli 3 out of the next 4?

I don't know- Roli was terrific through the lost 2006-07 season and I can understand hoping that his game would come around- the starts were pretty close to an even split before the new year and then mostly Garon after that.

Like pulling Conks after one of his best games of the year for a cold MO in the shootout? Great confidence builder, Mac.

I remember watching that game and wondering what the fuck MacT was getting at there, because it was a 3-3 game and Conklin had been great. Conklin slammed down his mask and stormed off to the dressing room, and I was totally behind him, because that was a dumbass move on MacT's part.

Oh, and we lost the shootout. 3-1, I think.


Well, I remember thinking that it might be worth a try even though I didn't like it, but I was sympathetic to Conklin there. MacT hasn't done it since, fortunately- the results suited the silliness of the idea.

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 13, 2008 1:35 PM MDT reply actions  

"I don't know- Roli was terrific through the lost 2006-07"

Don't get me wrong, Roli was easily our MVP of the season. I just don't agree with Roli playing 68 games regardless if we're the 1st place team or the last place team. At that point in time Roli was looking like a top 10 goalie in the NHL and I think there was more benefit to giving him some rest every now and then rather than running him into the ground. If you want a backup that you can rely on it's probably a good idea not to sit him out for such long stretches either.

Roli just didn't look the same this past year. Going from post to post he looks about 90 years old. And even though he was picking up wins at the end of the year he will still good for 1 bad goal per game most nights.

by Traktor on Jul 13, 2008 2:06 PM MDT reply actions  

First off, excellent attempt Jonathan.

As the bloggers get more accustomed taking shots at MacT, this kind of thing will come more easily and you'll soon be calling for his scalp;).

MacT's goalie strategy is clear -- he doesn't want any controversy, something he has said he learned from John Muckler. So he picks a guy and sticks with him, maybe more than he should. But did this not pay off with Roloson in the 2006 playoffs, who started weak when he first came here, then got really, really strong (until gassing it in the first game of the Cup finals)?

MacT's stand by your (number one) man philosophy was seen with Salo, clearly, and it was seen last year, when I agree with Traktor, that MacT really did stick with Roloson about a month too long before giving the job over to Garon. It was starting to get on my nerves, but then MacT learned his lesson and made the switch.

So MacT's patience with goalies has its negatives and positives, and I can't bring myself to thrash the coach over it.

by dstaples on Jul 13, 2008 4:33 PM MDT reply actions  

"Is this the year one of the prominent Oilers bloggers says even one word of criticism about MacT?"

I think Bloggers type a fair amount of criticism of MacT’s moves on a play to play, game to games basis – questioning line-up decisions & match-up decisions and such.

But I will agree that the Oiler bloggers tend to be pro-MacT - feeling that he is pretty smart and capable. I think too, the bloggers tend to circle the circle the wagons against the constant barrage of ill-informed criticism.

This coming season, the line-up appears more settled. I think the Oilblogger knives will come out a little quicker if the team doesn’t perform well.

by Mr DeBakey on Jul 14, 2008 11:42 AM MDT reply actions  

The common thread, as I see it, is MacT rides the starter - Salo, Roli, Garon - too long and doesn't show any confidence ever in the back up.

Roli wasn't horrible after the switch last year but couldn't get a sniff until Garon got hurt.

Why not MANAGE/PACE your players for maximum effectiveness like the rest of the team. You don't see Hemmer run into the ground like that. Find out what they can do without wearing them out (injuries).

All year I was hoping for a 3 on, 1 off type flexible rotation that keeps the starter fresh and keeps the rust off the back up. Never seems to happen.

MacT seems to take the easy road with his goalies and only changes course when it is completely obvious a change is necessary.

by Schmidty on Jul 14, 2008 3:56 PM MDT reply actions  

if you ask me this in context with Todd Bertuzzi, I'll blame Bert for destroying Roussel's career

So will I. That was a vicious cheap shot, Buttugly just skated right through the crease with his elbows up and gave Roussel a major concussion. He never played another NHL game.

One of about 44 reasons why I fucking hate Todd Bertuzzi. Fucking scumbag.

by Bruce on Jul 14, 2008 4:20 PM MDT reply actions  

But I will agree that the Oiler bloggers tend to be pro-MacT - feeling that he is pretty smart and capable. I think too, the bloggers tend to circle the circle the wagons against the constant barrage of ill-informed criticism.

This is just a great comment- about as bang on as you can get. I think the big thing about bloggers (certainly for myself) is that you hear a lot of comments from people that seem ignorant, and the occasional tendency is to go the other way to the point of overlooking errors.

This coming season, the line-up appears more settled. I think the Oilblogger knives will come out a little quicker if the team doesn’t perform well.

Yeah, barring a vicious run of injuries, this team is poised to be better than average in the west.

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 14, 2008 5:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Roli struggled for a nice stretch -- and I was super disappointed with his performance in TB as an example -- but I also don't feel there was any need to run with Garon as much as MacT did.

I honestly don't think MacT does a great job with goalies, either. I mean, fuck, this whole thing with alternating back-up goalies during the playoffs; did that seem sensible to anyone else?

I think Ty wrote about it briefly but I know I would've felt better if Jussi was coming out of the bullpen for G1 in Carolina rather than Conks.

by Dennis on Jul 14, 2008 7:14 PM MDT reply actions  

I think the team would've too dennis. Conklin had lost the confidence of his team mates and coach yet he was still dressing in the finals (I guess that illustrates the loyalty and "player's coachness" of MacTavish....but that team was playing so well and everything unraveled in that game 1. And game 2 they were playing "not to lose" instead of the aggressive game they'd played with Roloson in goal and likely would have played had Markanen come in and played well in game 1. The difference between having such a chatty goaltender like Roloson directing traffic on plays down low, and a quiet guy like Conklin, pretty much cost the Oilers the Cup...how damn hard is it to say "I got it"?

by Oilman on Jul 14, 2008 8:14 PM MDT reply actions  

That was a vicious cheap shot, Buttugly just skated right through the crease with his elbows up and gave Roussel a major concussion. He never played another NHL game.

No penalty on the play either, as I recall.

by Jonathan Willis on Jul 14, 2008 10:01 PM MDT reply actions  

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